Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumalterfurz
(2,474 posts)...oh, the irony!"
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)But I agree that your number makes thge comment that much funnier.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)And to keep in mind...
"You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center... I plead guilty."
@HillaryClinton, Sept. 10, 2015
AzDar
(14,023 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)She's a woman. She's tough. She has the experience. Bernie can't win.
Note that there is no direct discussion of policy because her positions suck. Continue to pay through the nose for healthcare. Sabre rattling foreign policy. Modest increase in minimum wage. US can't afford tuition free public college. Wow, what an inspirational list.
No doubt she is a woman who has weathered many attacks. She has held public office. None of that automatically qualifies her to be President. She needs to earn it like everybody else.
I vote based solely on a candidate's record, judgement, and character. I find it difficult to support someone so cozy with Wall Street that it is largely financing her campaign. She voted for the Iraq clusterfuck. That's a huge red flag that calls her judgement into question. Her promise to "fight for you" rings hollow. She is fighting to be cited in history books as the 1st woman President and will flip flop as much as necessary and say anything to get there.
I support the candidate who has my aching 63-year-old back. The man who has fought for the little guy for many years and whose message has never changed. The one who offers hope for a better future and who reminds us daily that we're all in this together. Proud to be a supporter of Bernie.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)supporters discuss her policy positions will be the first. They can't. 90% of her "policies" are indistinguishable from the Repugz. Trickle-down economics forever and War Forever Everywhere.
Zombie Thatcher.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)I don't want a woman claiming to represent me but really representing Wall Street, the Banksters and the War Profiteers, as the first woman president. It would be so demoralizing.
I remember the vice presidential debate between Bush I and Geraldine Ferraro, back in the day. She was trying to prove what a "big boy" she was and traded quips with that evil fatcat about whose personal stockbroker was better. It couldn't have been more clear that she did NOT represent me; she represented a new class of up and coming women professionals who wanted to become as rich as Bush I, and wanted to be accepted by the billionaire class, and was tone deaf to the needs of most people.
I remember being so excited to view that debate, and had to go out of my way to see it. (I didn't have TV at the time.) First woman to run for VP! An historic moment! I left the motel where I'd rented a room to see that debate feeling disgusted. I felt that nobody represents me. If this is what privileged women were going to do with their power--suck up to people like Bush I--I could understand it, in a way, but it left me, and most women, and most Americans, out.
I voted for her, of course, and for our presidential candidate, Walter Mondale (running against Reagan-Bush in 1984). Lifelong Democrat here. FIFTY YEARS as a Democratic Party voter. Mondale-Ferraro, and the Dem Party platform, were still miles above Reagan-Bush and the Puke platform, as to fairness, justice, equality, civil rights, workers' rights and other vital issues. But I felt it was a turning point within the Democratic Party toward Reaganism (the rich get richer, the poor get screwed) and that the social justice of women being able to run for, and get elected to, high office, was in some way being TRADED for economic justice for the majority.
GOD KNOWS Mondale-Ferraro would have been far better than Reagan-Bush. For one thing, Mondale was a true liberal populist (much like Hubert Humphrey). And the devastation that was inflicted on our democracy and on the poor majority during the Reagan junta was enormous and is still with us, and has only gotten worse.
But our first woman VP candidate trading quips about who has the best stockbroker was an alert--a little alarm going off as to deeper problems developing within the Democratic Party leadership.
The newly empowered Reagan Media (end of the "Fairness Doctrine" sank Ferraro's career (and that ticket) allegedly partly because of financial shenanigans of Ferraro and her husband (petty shit compared to today). (Ring any bells?) (And the media is much worse today.)
It's not that that new class of woman professionals don't need, and have a right to, representation in the halls of power, as well as a right as citizens to participate in our national political life--and also, have a NEED to BE professional--to be smart, to be well educated, to look professional, to have some financial security--in order to function in those "corridors." I know damn well that they do. It is not easy, even now, being a woman who achieves and exercises power. I've given Hillary Clinton every benefit of the doubt because of this--because of the personal stories I know, among family and friends, of how difficult it is for women to succeed in this way, even now.
But I DON'T WANT another "Geraldine Ferraro" to be our first woman president--a woman who sacrifices the poor majority, and the basic principle of the Democratic Party, in order to "play with the big boys."
I'll wait for Elizabeth Warren! And it may not be such a long wait, if Sanders chooses her, and she agrees to be, his VP partner (she will surely succeed him), OR (and you heard it here first) in the event that the Democratic Convention gets deadlocked and a "brokered convention" needs a compromise candidate, to keep the Sanders vs. Clinton split from destroying the Party. What a brilliant compromise candidate Elizabeth Warren would be!
Meanwhile, FEEL THE BERNE! First serious, viable candidate in many decades who speaks for me and my fellow and sister 99%! 30+ years of strenuous efforts on our behalf, including strenuous advocacy on all feminist issues. So incredibly inspiring. So incredibly strong. So incredibly clear. He is absolutely the best candidate for most women, and for most Americans. He is the "new FDR" that we have been hoping and praying for! And he is calling on US--imagine!--calling on us to make it happen. Let's make it happen!
NCjack
(10,279 posts)they have siphoned USA dry and the time has come for them to give a little back. They trust Hillary (a 1%er) to control our clawback, using her own pain as a monitor to set the maximum are collectively willing to bear.
rhett o rick
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LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)gordyfl
(598 posts)That is good! It gets right to the point.
cantbeserious
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Duval
(4,280 posts)cui bono
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