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ErisDiscordia

(443 posts)
5. This is America, After All; Birthplace of the Bankster
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:25 AM
Feb 2016

although Europe has had them for a while, I suppose, if you count the Rothschilds that Chelsea hangs around with.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
7. From an interesting post in FB by a caucus attendee
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 10:58 AM
Feb 2016

"WHAT A MESS AND I MUST ADMIT, THE DNC SHOULD BE ASHAME OF THEMSELVES.. AND ALSO; WHY IS HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS/STAFF/PAYED OBSERVER INVOLVED IN RUNNING THE PRECINCT IN IOWA...

It is amazing how cheating has become normal here in the US.... Everyone remembers and knows what happened in 2000 in Florida. An election was stolen and at that time no investigation was done, no one was charged nor prosecuted for cheating in an election that important..We should have had a President called Gore and we got a Bush..... Now we see it again here in Iowa..Yes it is "ONLY" a primary.. but please; ALL votes cast are important ALL...... Cheating has become a norm for some people and they seem to be okay with it..

Everyone who was there last night has to document what happen in what sequence, what they saw that seem questionable and if possible, how many delegate there were at the precinct for every candidate.. also who was in charge of the precinct if possible... If anybody has photos or videos... Get in contact with the Bernie Sanders Campaign, forward everything above to the Bernie Sanders Campaign... We can not let it stand...

There was a delegate last night, that posted this observation... I find it astonishing ......It has to be said the results below is correct... the math used to get there is "convoluted", but as long as the end results is okay I have no objection.... but you have to ASK YOURSELF... In this precinct..... 42.7 % of the people showed up for Hillary Clinton and 57.3 % of the people showed up for Bernie Sanders.... and the end result was 50 - 50 after converting the actual count of people to delegates... and if it is a tie you toss a coin.. Is that what our democracy has come down to.... COIN TOSS...

It should be one person, one vote.... and I agree with the below conclusion....

The only reason Hillary is even close is bc of the math involved, I'll explain what I learned at this caucus: in my district
Bernie = 148 people
Hilary = 110 people
Looks to me like Bernie was taking it, right
Nope, and here's why
Total was 258 people ÷ 10% (?) + 13 (he went too fast at 1st so I didn't catch where this # came from, either)
So, 258 ÷ 10% = 25.8 + 13 = 38.8
Then he said to round up so 39
This # means for every 39 people in a group you get one delegate
Bernie 148 ÷ 39 = 3.79
Hilary 110 ÷ 39 = 2.82
So in my mind again Bernie has this!
But nope again, bc
The person with the lowest score gets to round up and the winner rounds down frown emoticon
So now it's
Bernie = 3
Hilary = 3
And people are shocked the race is so close!
If this were about an actual vote, Bernie would have won in EVERY division, including the Republicans! No ONE candidate had the turn out Bernie just had here in Iowa!"

This is third hand information, but I think they used similar 'caucus math' at other locations as well ...

Interesting ....

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
11. I'd like to know where the +13 comes from.....
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:31 AM
Feb 2016

....and why the lower total is rounded up and the higher down.

That makes no sense.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
10. If it was me, I'd want the counting to be done this way:
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 11:28 AM
Feb 2016

First you go through one camp, and have people call out numbers in succession: 1, 2, 3, 4
Everyone hears the count.

Then the other party.

How can you cheat that way?

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
13. This primary season has really taught me a lot.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:57 AM
Feb 2016

What I have learned about the Democratic Party (the party I have been affiliated with for decades) is puke worthy.

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