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Who's nervous? (Original Post) Matariki Jan 2016 OP
Yeah I'm LiberalElite Jan 2016 #1
Yeah, me too. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2016 #2
+! Matariki Jan 2016 #3
Not me Bjornsdotter Jan 2016 #4
Yeah, I am too. TDale313 Jan 2016 #5
Headlines? I pay no attention to them.... daleanime Jan 2016 #13
Oh, I agree. TDale313 Jan 2016 #15
Heh. The NY Times, so far, when it rarely did an article regarding Bernie LiberalElite Jan 2016 #26
I'm ecstatic. Can't wait. Finally we'll get real numbers morningfog Jan 2016 #6
Exactly. n/t JimDandy Jan 2016 #8
Also feedback from the caucus meetings with switching votes to Bernie. Gregorian Jan 2016 #11
In a sense, we've already won. Mike__M Jan 2016 #38
Not too nervous 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #7
Good way to look at it.... daleanime Jan 2016 #14
I take some comfort in that The Weathervane is not nearly nc4bo Jan 2016 #9
Exactly. retrowire Jan 2016 #18
<3 Matariki Jan 2016 #22
It's hard to be inevitable when the LiberalElite Jan 2016 #27
I'm nervous too, but I think I have convinced both of my brothers to vote Bernie. Blus4u Jan 2016 #10
Intellectually I know this - LiberalElite Jan 2016 #28
Can't wait for Monday. TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #12
Walk Right in and We Got This SandersDem Jan 2016 #16
I'm excited and anxious. retrowire Jan 2016 #17
Actually, that's a respectable sample size. winter is coming Jan 2016 #21
I don't nt LiberalElite Jan 2016 #29
you make an excellent point with your last two questions. thank you nt retrowire Jan 2016 #35
There's nothing wrong with being nervous. winter is coming Jan 2016 #36
It's your first election? Matariki Jan 2016 #23
Hello there! Yes it is. retrowire Jan 2016 #24
Happy First Election! eom LiberalElite Jan 2016 #30
Hoping the Sunday shows hit the unsecured email issue hard. Nt JudyM Jan 2016 #19
Chill :) SmittynMo Jan 2016 #20
When I think of how far his campaign has come Mufaddal Jan 2016 #25
^^ This. Camp Weathervane has pulled out all the stops, and the best they're managing winter is coming Jan 2016 #32
If she has really overextended herself between Iowa and Brooklyn Mufaddal Jan 2016 #33
I think zippo, nada, zilch - LiberalElite Jan 2016 #43
Cautiously optimistic with a dose of nervousness mixed in. jillan Jan 2016 #31
Yes I am, need to go see the guy standing by Bernie there. wendylaroux Feb 2016 #51
Nervous leftcoastmountains Jan 2016 #34
I imagine that on the morning of Feb. 2nd LiberalElite Jan 2016 #44
Present and accounted for swilton Jan 2016 #37
Fucking beside myself MrChuck Jan 2016 #39
I might need to put my coffee. mmonk Jan 2016 #40
Always nervous because I put nothing past our American brothers and sisters SheenaR Jan 2016 #41
Thanks, that's reassuring. senz Feb 2016 #49
Bernie precinct captain here. roody Jan 2016 #42
+1 Matariki Jan 2016 #45
Great attitude. senz Feb 2016 #48
I am completely useless at work today Matariki Feb 2016 #46
I couldn't sleep last night. senz Feb 2016 #47
Yeah. Winning Iowa seems more important for the narrative Matariki Feb 2016 #50
Been reading some of the other comments and feel better now. senz Feb 2016 #52

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
2. Yeah, me too.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jan 2016

I'm trying not to be, though. I keep thinking about all the volunteers out there working the phones etc and I hope that all these splendid efforts will be enough.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
4. Not me
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jan 2016

Let's see what happens in Iowa and NH. I see so many people coming out for Bernie instead of Hillary in real life.

I might have been more worried if Bernie were leading in the polls. I would have worried that some of the younger supporters would stay home thinking it was in the bag. Maybe this will push them to get out there.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
5. Yeah, I am too.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:53 PM
Jan 2016

It'll be close. But, I'll admit, I think Bernie needs the win for the momentum. Big picture? It's probably a few delegates either way. But it's the headlines. It's about showing the skeptics he can win. But I am cautiously optimistic he will win.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
13. Headlines? I pay no attention to them....
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016

they will do their best to spin whatever happens against us. Let hope they have a tough job Monday night.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
15. Oh, I agree.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jan 2016

But I know there are people who are saying they like Sanders but aren't sure he can win. Winning the first two would help with that a lot I think.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
26. Heh. The NY Times, so far, when it rarely did an article regarding Bernie
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jan 2016

could not do even ONE without making it really about Hillary.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
6. I'm ecstatic. Can't wait. Finally we'll get real numbers
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:53 PM
Jan 2016

real PEOPLE. Not just political insiders and pundits.

Bernie's in a great spot. Just remember tht Hillary was up 30 points just 3 months ago. THIRTY FUCKING POINTS.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
11. Also feedback from the caucus meetings with switching votes to Bernie.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jan 2016

Our brains think, and I have to be careful when thinking far ahead. I almost feel optimistic.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
7. Not too nervous
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary has much more to lose. We all know if she loses it's baaaaad for her but if Bernie loses, we are still rising and will continue to gain support and continue to rise. So while I really really want this, it's gonna be OK either way.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
9. I take some comfort in that The Weathervane is not nearly
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jan 2016

As celebratory as her DU supporters seem to be. I damn sure wouldn't be celebrating jack with that polling.

Remember, as much as "they" want us to forget it, HRH IS the inevitable one.

Bernie is breathing fire down HRCs neck and I'd think they are at Defcon 2, possibly 1.

We need to GOTV, that is the key.

Blus4u

(608 posts)
10. I'm nervous too, but I think I have convinced both of my brothers to vote Bernie.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jan 2016

Both of them have been voting rethuglians the last two presidential elections.


Peace to you and relax...being nervous won' make a difference.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
17. I'm excited and anxious.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jan 2016

This is my first election. I've never felt this way about anything before. I never fought for or participated in a real movement like this.

Fact of the matter is this.... Bernie leads in all the correct ways. It's a statistical deadheat between Clinton and him. O'Malley supporters and undecideds may have to be the deciders here. Plus, O'Malley supporters are more likely to swing to Bernie than Hillary.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/267573-poll-omalleys-iowa-backers-prefer-sanders-to-clinton

Secondly... The poll only asked about 3000 people what their opinion was... If we could get even a fraction of Bernie's rally numbers to show up to caucus.... That small polling sample become irrelevant.

Also, this. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511099143

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
21. Actually, that's a respectable sample size.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:33 PM
Jan 2016

The thing to remember is that Selzer went with the average turnout for first-time caucus-goers. Even with that, Hillary's lead is within the MOE. Does anyone here expect the turnout for first-time caucus-goers to be "average"? Does anyone here think a higher turnout among first-time caucus-goers will work to Hillary's advantage?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
36. There's nothing wrong with being nervous.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jan 2016

We're actually in a good spot: just a little bit behind, but not enough to be demoralizing. People are more likely to turn out when they feel their vote will make the difference.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
30. Happy First Election! eom
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jan 2016


Vote, and keep on voting. People literally died for the right to vote. When Americans can't be bothered, although I think I understand at some level, it really bugs me. I've seen photos of people in third-world countries walking miles barefoot and/or standing under a hot sun in long lines waiting to vote and as for Americans, if there's a chance of rain, we stay home.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
25. When I think of how far his campaign has come
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jan 2016

I'm not that nervous. Even a narrow loss in IA is still a victory at this point, especially considering how far behind he was a few months ago; and he's now built the infrastructure, support, and momentum to go the long haul. To put it a little differently, losing Iowa is not going to hurt him nearly as much as I suspect it would hurt Hillary to lose there.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
32. ^^ This. Camp Weathervane has pulled out all the stops, and the best they're managing
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:18 PM
Jan 2016

is a narrow lead going into the caucus. They've gotten DWS to game the debate schedule, they've outright lied about Bernie's plan for single player, they've tried scaring us about how Bernie is a socialist/Jew/atheist/too old/too far left. It's my strong belief that David Brock is somewhere behind shopping the "off-the-record tips" (smears) to media outlets and those bogus flyers. Bill Clinton has been out stumping for HRC and they've drawn as much of an endorsement from Obama as they're likely to get.

They've had to resort to all of this, at a time when Bernie is at his most vulnerable (just before his first Presidential trial), and the end result is a narrow lead. Whether Bernie wins or loses in Iowa (and I still believe first-time caucus-goers will put him over the top), he's going to take NH. What's Hillary going to use then? What's she got left?

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
33. If she has really overextended herself between Iowa and Brooklyn
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jan 2016

as media reports have hinted, then "what's she got left" is a very good question. Support for Bernie is at such a fever pitch that I think a narrow loss in Iowa will do nothing but motivate the Sanderistas even more. Now, if he has like a surprise 20 or 30 point loss, then that will probably take some wind out of the sails, but most people seem committed to him on much more than a superficial level. Lots of Bernie supporters appear not only ready but eager to march through hell and back with the guy. So good for us.

MrChuck

(279 posts)
39. Fucking beside myself
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 12:04 AM
Jan 2016

I want to believe in the landslide but the Selzer poll has me nervous. I see more Bernie passion than anything else but the Clinton is strong.
I'm a democrat though.
It's going to be fine.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
41. Always nervous because I put nothing past our American brothers and sisters
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:08 AM
Jan 2016

to occasionally screw things up.

I think the key on our end is after we win tomorrow, popular vote or even by one delegate, we need to turn our attention to........

Nevada. Our phonebanking efforts have to be stepped up there to help our ground forces. We win there, that's where it gets interesting.

I for one think a close loss does not doom us but makes the primaries up to and including March 1 very very essential

roody

(10,849 posts)
42. Bernie precinct captain here.
Sun Jan 31, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jan 2016

I'm excited and happy to have the real thing finally. Win or lose, our movement must continue the struggle and be bigger than Bernie.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
47. I couldn't sleep last night.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:54 PM
Feb 2016

Am on pins and needles. Have been hating NPR's constant little "advertisements" for Hill and subtle degradations of Bernie and can't stand to watch Hill's phony, phony act on TV. She's pretending to be Bernie. She's pumped up on whatever they give her and tons of money.

If Bernie doesn't win Iowa, his (and our) uphill struggle will be monumental.

He must win Iowa. {edit: comments from other Bernistas have reassured me some. Thanks.}

So many Americans know only what the MSM tells them. Thank God for fresh, MSM-free millennials and the rest of us aware folk.

If I thought God bothered him/herself with politics, I'd be praying hard.

Yeah, nervous.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
52. Been reading some of the other comments and feel better now.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:14 PM
Feb 2016

Iowa would be very cool for Bernie, but there are other target states, and as you say, the delegate count. Iowa is only one state.

Iowa seems important for Bernie momentum and also for putting the quash to Hill momentum. Many people vote based on perceptions rather than facts. Many simply go with the flow.

Iowa's also important for Bernie because this is his first big test. A win here would make him more solid. Unfortunately, the media has been diminishing New Hampshire as "next door to Vermont," so a win there won't be as important for him but would be big for her -- at this early point.

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