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FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 03:14 AM Jul 2014

I'm going to be starting Emdr soon

I am nervous and anxious to start. I am not quite sure what to expect and i'm a little scared about very vivid memories coming up but i know that i can't go on without some relief. It is getting harder and harder to push through a day without feeling emotionally exhausted. Have any of you ever been through therapy with emdr? Was it very difficult? Did it help?

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I'm going to be starting Emdr soon (Original Post) FedUpWithIt All Jul 2014 OP
helpful info to know about EMDR therapy drpattijane Jul 2014 #1
Thank you! That was helpful and very comforting. FedUpWithIt All Jul 2014 #3
bLessing and all the best archaic56 Jul 2014 #2
archaic56 FedUpWithIt All Jul 2014 #4
you'll get there archaic56 Jul 2014 #5
EMDR is incredible FedUpWithIt All Aug 2014 #6

drpattijane

(1 post)
1. helpful info to know about EMDR therapy
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 07:39 AM
Jul 2014

I'm a psychologist who uses EMDR therapy as my primary treatment psychotherapy and I've also personally had EMDR therapy for anxiety, panic, grief, and “small t” trauma. As a client, EMDR therapy worked extremely well and also really fast. As an EMDR therapist, and in my role as a facilitator who trains other therapists in EMDR therapy (certified by the EMDR International Assoc. and trained by the EMDR Institute) I have used EMDR successfully with panic disorders, childhood sexual/physical/emotional abuse and neglect, single incident trauma and complex/chronic PTSD, anxiety, depression, grief, body image, eating disorders, phobias, distressing memories, bad dreams and more.

One of the initial phases (Phase 2) in EMDR psychotherapy involves preparing for memory processing or desensitization (memory processing or desensitization - phases 3-6 - is often what is referred to as "EMDR" which is actually an 8-phase method of psychotherapy). In this phase resources are "front-loaded" so that you have a "floor" or "container" to help with processing the really hard stuff, as well as creating strategies if you're triggered in everyday life. In Phase 2 you learn a lot of great coping strategies and self-soothing techniques which you can use during EMDR processing or anytime you feel the need. So if you start feeling overwhelmed or that it's too intense, you can ground yourself (with your therapist's help in session, and on your own between sessions) and feel safe enough to continue the work.

In my practice, after the Phase 2 work lets us know that my patient is safe enough and able to cope with any emotion and/or physical sensation both during and between EMDR processing sessions, I often suggest we try a much less intense memory first if there is one that happened BEFORE the trauma(s). If there isn't one, then I suggest we start developmentally with the least disturbing memory and work our way "up" to the most disturbing event(s).

Grounding exercises are indispensable in everyday life, and really essential in stressful times. Anyone can use some of the techniques in Dr. Shapiro's new book "Getting Past Your Past: Take Control of Your Life with Self-Help Techniques from EMDR." Dr. Shapiro is the founder/creator of EMDR therapy but all the proceeds from the book go to two charities: the EMDR Humanitarian Assistance Program and the EMDR Research Foundation). Anyway, the book is terrific. It's an easy read, helps you understand what's "pushing" your feelings and behavior, helps you connect the dots from past experiences to current life. Also teaches readers lots of helpful techniques that can be used immediately and that are also used during EMDR therapy to calm disturbing thoughts and feelings.

One of the key assets of EMDR is that YOU, the client, are in control NOW, even though you likely were not during past events. You NEVER need re-live an experience or go into great detail, ever! You NEVER need to go through the entire memory. YOU can decide to keep the lights (or the alternating sounds and/or tactile pulsars, or the waving hand, or hand/knee tapping - all forms of bilateral stimulation that should be decided by the client for the client's comfort) going, or stop them, whichever helps titrate – measure and adjust the balance or “dose“ of the processing. During EMDR processing there are regular “breaks” and you can control when and how many but the therapist should be stopping the bilateral stimulation every 25-50 or so passes of the lights to ask you to take a deep breath and to say just a bit of what you’re noticing. The breaks help keep a “foot in the present” while you’re processing the past. Again, and I can’t say this enough, YOU ARE IN CHARGE so YOU can make the process tolerable.

Pacing and dosing are critically important. So if you ever feel that EMDR processing is too intense then it might be time to go back over all the resources that should be used both IN session and BETWEEN sessions. Your therapist can use a variety of techniques to make painful processing less painful, like suggesting you turn the scene in your mind to black and white, lower the volume, or, erect a bullet-proof glass wall between you and the painful scene, and so forth. There are a lot of these kinds of "interventions" that ease the processing. They are called "cognitive interweaves" that your therapist can use, and that also can help bring your adult self's perspective into the work (or even an imaginary Adult Perspective). Such interweaves are based around issues of Safety, Responsibility, and Choice. So therapist questions like "are you safe now?" or "who was responsible? and "do you have more choices now?" are all very helpful in moving the processing along.

In addition to my therapy practice, I roam the web looking for EMDR therapy discussions, try to answer questions about it posted by clients/patients, and respond to the critics out there. It's not a cure-all therapy. However, it really is an extraordinary psychotherapy and its results last. In the hands of a really experienced EMDR therapist, it's the most gentle way of working through disturbing experiences.

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
3. Thank you! That was helpful and very comforting.
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 09:59 AM
Jul 2014


I have seen other posts, by you, on PTSD forums while i was looking for info about what to expect. I really appreciate you taking the time to write all of this here. The information about control, and tricks to help lower the intensity are things i did not know and help relax some of of the stress of waiting and wondering.

My background trauma is not limited to one area or another and i worried that it might be too much to try and tackle with this type of therapy. I also worry because i have been having a type of psychogenic seizure since my early teens and they are easily set off by trigger type stress. I have several instances a month and i'm stressed about them coming about during the EMDR.

I am very ready though. I have lived too long with too much of this littering up the place and i'm ready for even a little peace. I loved the word neutralize that my therapist used. I am more than ready to neutralize some of these memories and outdated feelings.

archaic56

(53 posts)
2. bLessing and all the best
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jul 2014

JUst wanted to wish you all the best with this.The therapist above me sounds as if she really knows what is what.YOU are blessed she is here.I did all of mine myself.. with friends giving me books

I wrote the following for all of us:"' The only people who should be shamed by sexual abuse are those who perpetrate it perpetuate it and profit from it."


May you know you are perfect as the day you were born and were never at fault. May you heal and shine as you were meant to . May the road get easier everyday. May you know most of all that millions of others suffer along with you. May you heal in such a way that you become a shining light for other survivors if it is meant to be . Bless you dear been there. Interesting today that Scientists are finally realizing this evil does damage our brains.(NPR ON Here and NOw)


I have found peace by being a hermit.. but I hope far better for you

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
4. archaic56
Thu Jul 24, 2014, 10:08 AM
Jul 2014


That was very beautiful. Thank you. Bless YOU and i wish those same things for you. <3

I have been isolating myself, to one degree or another, for most of my life. I am very fortunate that i have a loving and very supportive immediate family (husband and children) that have helped me navigate my limitations but i am fully aware that these limitations have also limited them. I struggle with integration. I can be unintentionally distant emotionally. We struggle financially because i am unable to contribute. My kids have been limited socially because of my stress and need to "hide". I am chronically emotionally exhausted and it makes it hard to share joy with them.

For them, and for myself, i am so ready to push forward.

archaic56

(53 posts)
5. you'll get there
Sun Jul 27, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jul 2014

you shall get there in your own time , in your own way.The fact that you recognize this and how it affects those around you is very very good. I am still at the place where social isolation.. allows me to retreat when the world bores me silly. Now, I am an anti pedophilia activist.Simply try to make folks realize it is NOT what the media says and that we who have survived have every right to speak our truths.

It's daunting a the far right assumes much about it that isn't true and the far left ignores it. Tis why I stay in the middle of the river where common sense prevails. IF there were not powerful men at the top who enjoy and perpetrate this.. we'd all have stopped this mess long ago. We, who had those childhoods, deserve to be the voices for those who cannot speak. The way I see it there is no worse crime than messing with a childs innocence. WE had the right to grow unimpeded by anyones sick desires.. And I believe with all my heart that each of us has the right to scream from the rooftops NO MORE ! It was this battle that made me realize .. why the divide and conquer game is played so well in the media. Every time we get close to exposing it all.. the media comes on with some distraction.THis tells me it has always been about the "KINGs" inflicting it on the serfs and not the other way around as the media always claims. Maureen Gosch comes to mind.. by blaming this on poor families.. the media distracts that this crime always started first in the LOrds of the manner realm. Still, I am who I choose to be not what my abusers said I was. I love helping others..simply that. cause many have helped me.

IT will come to you my friend, the healing when it is time. Hang in there . Be gentler to yourself than life has been

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
6. EMDR is incredible
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:06 PM
Aug 2014

I am so happy that i took this step. It isn't easy but it is affective. The process is pretty incredible. The memories, for me, are no different but the way my mind interacts with those memories is changed. Dominoes falling all over the place. I wish i had been ready to do this much earlier in my life.

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