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CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:16 AM Jul 2014

Enough is enough: from TV’s “crime porn” to endemic violence, the assault on women has to stop

Enough is enough: from TV’s “crime porn” to endemic violence, the assault on women has to stop

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/07/enough-enough-tv-s-crime-porn-endemic-violence-assault-women-has-stop

Violent images of women onscreen fuel violence against women in society. Actress Doon Mackichan explains why she now has a zero-tolerance policy on taking part in any storylines that use violence against women as entertainment.

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Rape is a human rights violation and has been defined as a form of TORTURE by international criminal courts. I would argue that TV and film are exacerbating this issue with increasingly hardcore elements. Once seen, you can’t unsee it, and like abuse, it’s insidious, attacking women’s confidence and self-esteem.

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...The so-called trickle-down effect of porn into our culture is now nothing less than a tsunami and I would argue that we’re in a state of emergency, or a human rights scandal as Amnesty International says – and boundaries of acceptability no longer exist.

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Porn is everywhere. Girls say they feel embarrassed, awkward – does it affect their idea of sex? Shaving pubic hair, getting breast implants, requesting labial surgery seems to say yes. Girls may feel that they are expected to be treated as sex-objects, and that they just have to live with it. Explicit material is way too accessible and the extreme has become normal. Rape is OK. When I spoke to my daughter about this – she was about 16 at the time – it became clear that of her generation, who have been so exposed to so much hardcore material, quite a few of her peer group were saying they were “bisexual” for safety, as if they felt they were expected to perform some of what they had seen. The links in the media, and on TV, to abuse in the playground and then straight to domestic abuse is NOT DIFFCULT TO SEE. School is the most common setting for sexual harassment. Humiliating and degrading girls at an early age is commonplace, and sexist bullying an integral art of school life. Anti- sexism activist and filmmaker Byron Hurt says that feminism is the solution to countering the masochistic culture which is so prevalent amongst young people in London and leads to the terrifying knife crime that kills mostly black boys. “Men are drip-fed through media, religion, sport, family, culture, porn, prostitution and TV to devalue, exploit and stereotype women and girls. Men are in denial about the level of violence against women.”

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The percentage of women directing, writing, producing and shooting films has been in decline since 1998. In Hollywood, only five per cent of directors are females, and 15 per cent of writers. If you have all white males working behind the scenes, then where are the people saying NO? Enough is enough? Oscar voters and the industry top brass are overhwhelmingly white, male, and middle-aged. The film Bridesmaids is a fluke, a one off, just like The Hurt Locker. It hasn’t encouraged a flurry of films starring or directed by women.

more at link: http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/07/enough-enough-tv-s-crime-porn-endemic-violence-assault-women-has-stop



Depressing, but should be read by all.

If I were a young single woman today I think I would be gay.
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Enough is enough: from TV’s “crime porn” to endemic violence, the assault on women has to stop (Original Post) CrispyQ Jul 2014 OP
Very interesting article and I too am sick of TV's "crime porn" theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #1
I wasn't sure what she meant by that either. CrispyQ Jul 2014 #2
Claiming to be a lesbian surely wouldn't guarantee your safety theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #5
I didn't get what they meant by that either. redqueen Jul 2014 #3
I think it was supposed to be about peer pressure theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #4
That's how I initially read it, redqueen Jul 2014 #7
This is MUST READ stuff redqueen Jul 2014 #6
I used to like the CSI shows until I noticed something and saw something ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #8
The CSI shows are the worst... theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #9
I can't stand "Criminal Minds." CrispyQ Jul 2014 #10
Well, we already know what TV's "desired demographic" is -- young males theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #13
I think that's the one with the story line ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #14
I'd really like to see this article posted to GD theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #11
You can! CrispyQ Jul 2014 #15
BTW, if y'all get the chance, catch the readers' comments theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #12

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
1. Very interesting article and I too am sick of TV's "crime porn"
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:32 AM
Jul 2014

I will say, however, that this passage took me aback: When I spoke to my daughter about this – she was about 16 at the time – it became clear that of her generation, who have been so exposed to so much hardcore material, quite a few of her peer group were saying they were “bisexual” for safety, as if they felt they were expected to perform some of what they had seen.

I'm trying to not have a knee-jerk reaction here but I found this offensive. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting what the author intended?

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
2. I wasn't sure what she meant by that either.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jul 2014

I would think claiming to be a lesbian would be a better opt-out, although not necessarily one that provides safety. ???

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
4. I think it was supposed to be about peer pressure
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 05:51 PM
Jul 2014

Hell if I know. The way it was couched came off as offensive to me. Too bad because it was a distraction to an otherwise interesting article.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
7. That's how I initially read it,
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jul 2014

but the word 'safety' doesnt seem to work there, if that's the case.

Then again, maybe it's safety from being bullied for being a prude.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. This is MUST READ stuff
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:01 PM
Jul 2014
Rape isn’t entertainment, it’s a never-more pressing outrage that is not to be enjoyed with a glass of Merlot and a few cheese straws as you watch your “edgy” TV drama. There are more refuges, more sexual assaults and women are now seen as sex objects on an unprecedented scale.

Director Carrie Cracknall says: “The interconnectedness of the way women are represented in pornography, in music videos, in cinema, in advertising, in fashion which connects into the global beauty industry – insecurity about body image, younger and younger women going under the knife which connects into a dehumanised objectified perspective on women by men and other women and that must in some way lie at the heart of conversations we are having about domestic abuse, about rape, about sexual assault. Those things all sit together in one murky, complex bathtub.”

I think violent, on screen images of women fuel violence against women in society and I am now implementing zero tolerance on taking part in any storylines that involve violence against women, unless, of course it is with a radical feminist agenda. Let us rewrite the stories, let us bring back the heroines, let us ditch the vacant stereotypes and inanimate objects, let us educate women and men, empower them to find different subjects. As Rebecca Reilly-Cooper wrote in the New Statesman: “If I wanted to avoid anything that contained damaging depictions of women, I would have to live in a cave.”



The way rape and violence against women is usually shown on screen is exploitative and titillating. Sexualized and pornified, it works directly against efforts to end rape culture.

There are movies which show these things in an effort to challenge rape culture but these are few and far between.

ismnotwasm

(41,984 posts)
8. I used to like the CSI shows until I noticed something and saw something
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 08:33 PM
Jul 2014

(And someone had called them "dead chick" shows&quot what I noticed, was that nearly every dead women who wasn't a random serial killer victim, had some sort of "moral" failing; she was a prostitute, a cheating wife, a woman after money, a rejected women, a woman who rejected.

When found, the bodies often seemed posed ever so slightly in a sexual manner (unless sex was involved, then posing turned into unapologetic quasi-porn.

That's not the part I meant I saw. There was a story line in one of the shows where some crazy asshole was kidnapping women, kept them in a cellar prison, raped them until they were pregnant, and having them cared for by the previous kidnapped and raped woman, who had an earlier child. That woman caregiver was then murdered after the birth of the baby and he went off to start the cycle again. I can't remember what he did with the kids. I think he kept the boys and dropped off the gilts or something. I can't remember how many kids or women.

But that was it, I had had it with those bullshit shows.

I like a lot of weird stuff, old Italian horror movies, "revenge" movies--I've read my share of deliberately misogynistic/misandric "horror porn" (it doesn't pretend to be anything else and has absolutely no redeeming qualities except an incredible sense of the ironic) I even watched "The Human Centipede" part one--- but I was through.

These shows aren't a personal quick-- these are mainstream TV, or mainstream movies that fetishizes this bullshit, and spoon feeds it to the general public. Who then, of course not realizing exactly how easily manipulated they've been, will defend their 'right' to watch it (well fucking of course) and then deny it affects them in any way.

Which is, of course bullshit.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
9. The CSI shows are the worst...
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 08:50 PM
Jul 2014

... but "Criminal Minds" is right up there. I call it snuff porn and TV is completely saturated with it. You can't watch that crap 24/7 and not be affected by it. Anyone who says differently is either lying or in such deep denial you'll never convince them otherwise.

CrispyQ

(36,470 posts)
10. I can't stand "Criminal Minds."
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 10:17 AM
Jul 2014

There's some really perverted shit on that show.

I know that disturbed people will think of disturbed things to do to other people, but what about people on the edge? If they watch this kind of crap, can it push them into it? Is it possible, even, that it ignites something inside of some, a desire, a curiosity to try what they are seeing on TV? Most people say that they are not influenced by what they see on TV, but when certain values/actions are portrayed over & over again, it becomes acceptable.

I remember how teenage boys acted & how they treated girls when I was in high school & from what I read today, we are going backwards at an alarming rate. The kind of touching & harassment that is now commonplace, wasn't when I was a kid.



theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
13. Well, we already know what TV's "desired demographic" is -- young males
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jul 2014

After reading the article you provided, I took a look around to find some articles about what young men were watching as opposed to women. Here are two of those articles:

What Women Watch on TV Their viewing habits may surprise you
http://www.adweek.com/news/television/what-women-watch-tv-156621

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/television-shows-men-watch-222356
Testosterone TV: What Shows Are Most Watched By Men? - See more at: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/television-shows-men-watch-222356#sthash.U1osMePh.dpuf

What was really odd is that I couldn't find the answer to my question, just who is watching all this snuff porn like the CSI's and Criminal Minds? It obviously has a steady following or we couldn't have so many of these programs.

ismnotwasm

(41,984 posts)
14. I think that's the one with the story line
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 03:00 PM
Jul 2014

Forensics can be fascinating-- at one point I wanted to get into forensic nursing. Couldn't afford the school debt

Anyway, there is something in law enforcement called the "CSI" effect, criminals have Learned to double glove,victims have learned to try to obtain some sort of DNA

Nice right? There's a kind of corolation between these shows and behavior right there. Yet people will still deny these shows effect human behavior

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
12. BTW, if y'all get the chance, catch the readers' comments
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jul 2014

Sheesh. There are times I lose sight of just how pervasive woman-hating really is.

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