complaints to Skinner: one thing I have noticed about our complaints.

[CTyankee]

Often, we don't get right to the point in our first question. Skinner does his thing and then our real agenda is revealed and it is NEVER answered. Done, end of discussion.

Let's get our real motivation out in the FIRST question, altho it is dicey that Skinner will answer such a bald faced question, but let's assume he does (if he answers at all, which is a big IF). If so, let's get to the nub of our question in the FIRST question...the second one often just hangs there unanswered and then he has the best of all possible words: he has "answered" our question but the real question is well, sayonara...please smarten up and get to your real agenda early one so he can't wiggle out...he may not answer but it is better than nothing, right?

[TBF]

1. Just served on a jury for this post.

*sigh*

The results -

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complaints to Skinner: one thing I have noticed about our complaints.
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Conspiracy theories; complains about DU and Skinner

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[elleng]

3. What a silly Alert!!!

[TBF]

4. Agree. nt

[CTyankee]

12. thanks!

Yeah, my answer to silly: MEH!

[Sheldon Cooper]

5. Well, at least the alert stalker boy/girl is now prohibited from further alerts for a while.

Is it a 24 hour period? Anyway,

[Agschmid]

6. Yup 24 hours.

[thucythucy]

2. Hi CT.

Could you provide a little context for this, or send me a link to something that will better explain what this is about? I think I know, or suspect I know, but don't want to jump to any conclusions. So anything you post here or send to me would be helpful.

Thanks, and best wishes.

[CTyankee]

9. As I say in my reply to KitSeleya, it was a general observation.

And it is not just with posts about feminist issues. Others as well seem to get one shot. My thoughts are that if we can condense our idea in the first post, it might be better. Again, it is my impression based on reading some ATA posts on various subjects.

[KitSileya]

7. That is a very good point.

I wasn't clear enough in my last question, so I didn't learn what I wanted to know, but Skinner DID answer my question fully. I was just beating around the bush too much, and really, that isn't necessary, because if the question is too direct, Skinner can just answer it in a pm if he wants. That's what he did with the only other ATA question I asked, where I wondered if two posters were the same person, and since I asked by names, he answered me in a pm that they were not. The question is still hidden in ATA, even though it has been answered.

[CTyankee]

8. It was a general observation. Your post gives me hope tho. It looks like there is some effort on the

part of Skinner here. Since it involved real names, it was right that it was by pm. He DID give you an answer.

In other cases where real names are not involved, I just think it is preferable to get the full gist of the question in the first one that we pose.

I was actually referring to some posts I have seen, not necessarily yours.

There often seem to be no second bites at the apple...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

10. He reserves the right to not answer.

I notice there are quite a few that go unanswered.

on edit: I see that he will answer via PM, good to know. I wonder how many he does that ...

[CTyankee]

11. I am wondering why he reserves the right to not answer or does so by pm on this issue.

In the case of actual names, yes, should be pm. But on the general principle, why not? Why the double standard?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

13. and Really CT, he is the only one that can answer Those questions

We can speculate all we want but, only he knows why he does what he does. Sometimes I agree with how The Admin do things around here and other times ... not so much ...

I really hope they decide to modify the DU3 system in some various, different ways. I think, I am hearing him make sounds in that direction.

Until they do it and, Announce that this is what we have implemented, we will be kept in the dark.

Remember how long we heard that DU3 is coming but, did we really know what DU3 was going to be until we were here.

I try to stay philosophical about it all and, look at this as some huge internet experiment of which I am a part.

as usual, YMMV.



PS: I am going to start using Stupid as a reason to hide a post. Adjust your blacklists accordingly

[CTyankee]

14. This thought struck me earlier: why have an ATA forum at all if you don't intend

to answer fair questions? Not insults or crazy stuff or trivial garbage but straight up questions? Even something along the lines of "You raise a serious question that I am giving considerable thought to, dealing with a fine line between my being umpire and "thought police" or something like that, and then a follow through later (which it looks more and more likely as he hears from more and more of us). I think he could have saved himself much agita if he had done that.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

15. Agree

[CTyankee]

16. In fact, there ARE trivial questions totally unrelated to DU that he answers...

I have to wonder about that...