Did anyone see this?

[treestar]

http://www.upworthy.com/5-minutes-of-what-the-media-actually-does-to-women-8

Excellent presentation.

[redqueen]

1. People ask her, after 40 years, have things gotten any better. No. They've gotten worse.

But how many people will minimize, minimize, minimize. Distract. Derail. Obfuscate.

Girls up to age 8 mostly are happy with themselves. Once they hit puberty that all changes. Depression, anorexia, bulimia...

It is horrifying how few seem to really care about what we put girls and women through, with this obsession with objectification.

She is right, it is a public health issue.

[YoungDemCA]

17. It is not just a public health issue...

..but a fundamental civil rights and human rights issue.

That certain people (they know who they are) have successfully bullied, minimized, dismissed, and shamed feminists and their allies within the past few decades is absolutely appalling.

There is so much work to be done-we simply do not have time for bigots, assholes, and trolls.

[Arkansas Granny]

2. when our children are constantly bombarded with images like this, it makes

it next to impossible for them to see reality. In fact, the deception becomes their reality and it is impossible for them to attain.

[treestar]

3. Really weird is how they photoshop even the top models

As if they are not enough even with all that genetic luck/gifts.

Amazed at Cindy Crawford's remark. Good on Kate Winslet.

[Arkansas Granny]

5. Which just proves that very few, if any, women could measure up

to their improbable and impossible standards for beauty.

[CrispyQ]

4. I can't believe how thin some of those models are.

Worth the 4 minutes.

[sheshe2]

6. Thank you for the link, treestar.

A woman portrayed as an object, indeed!

The pictures of thinnest models are horrifying. They most certainly are a health problem for themselves and the children that wish to emulate them.

The media needs to stop screwing around with the image of a woman, it is wrong and hurtful to us all!

[treestar]

7. I agree she

it is not even attractive - it looks scary on those more extreme models!

[Flatulo]

8. Those emancipated waifs are so un-appealing. Who looks like this? No one.

They look like they've been in a concentration camp. I don't know any men who prefer their women to look like this. Which begs the question - who is setting the bar so low for female appearance?

I don't have any daughters, but I do have two nieces who are, thankfully, very comfortable in their bodies. They have wonderful, warm personalities and hearty laughs and genuine smiles. And no shortage of male suitors.

[KitSileya]

9. I think the prevalent theory is that clothes designers don't want any curves on models

as curves only mess with the lines of their clothes, especially now that women don't wear corsets anymore. A number of clothes designers in the 20th century were gay, and another theory is that they didn't care for curvy women and wanted them to look as much as boys as possible. Don't know how that stacks up with previous centuries' clothes designers and their sexual orientation, so I lean towards the former, myself.

[redqueen]

10. Please stop making this about what men prefer women to look like.

Whether or not women have "suitors" is so far from the issue.

[Flatulo]

11. But that is always the subtext. The advertisers are trying to appeal to some male ideal of beauty,

but their ideal is way off the mark. What they're creating is not beautiful in any sense.

I agree with the previous poster who noted that many designers are gay and may have a different ideal of feminine beauty than straight males.

You may not like that it may be about being attractive to men, buts that's always the subtext. They're saying 'only thin women are attractive to men. If you weigh more than xxx you'll be alone.'

It's sick and perverse, but that's the message.

[redqueen]

12. It's not about whether I like your opinion, either.

I'm just going to post this link.

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/04/09/why-i-prefer-small-boobs-isnt-helping/

[Flatulo]

13. I appreciate the link. I read the blogspot and understand your point. However,

In reply #4, CrispyQ says: "I can't believe how thin some of those models are."

In reply #6, Sheshe2 says: "The pictures of thinnest models are horrifying."

In reply #7, Treestar says: "I agree she it is not even attractive."

Why no scold for them? Is it OK for women to make body-judgemental comments about other women? Or do you feel the need to put every male who stumbles into this forum in their place?

[redqueen]

14. #7 is the only one that comes close to yours.

And while it is problematic, she didn't go on to say how she knows heavier women who have lots of men interested in them.

It's a matter of degrees, IOW.

[Flatulo]

16. Fair enough.

[KitSileya]

15. This isn't about attractiveness

It about women's mental and physical health, both of which are damaged by the media portrayal of women. Being that thin, and being encouraged/pressured to be that thin and never measuring up is damaging to women. That is the main point here, not whether men prefer women with curves or whatnot.

And we don't "put down every male that stumbles into this forum" - we just expect everyone to read the group rules and abide by them.

[YoungDemCA]

18. +1

Goddamn, these insensitive, willfully ignorant posts are just...

Ugh.