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Recently, I have been asked by numerous people what a rape culture is, and whether we really live in one. Whats victim blaming? What about rape jokes? Well, read on dear bloggers, and find out the truth about rape culture.
What is a rape culture?
A rape culture is a culture in which rape and sexual assault become normalised, encouraged by the media, the law, language, advertising, and many other things. It is a culture where women are seen are sexual objects who exist purely for mens sexual gratification; where male sexual aggression is both encouraged and glorified. Both men and women accept sexual violence as an inevitable part of life that cannot be changed.
Do we really live in one?
Yes, yes, and yes again.
As children we are told not to talk to strange men who offer us sweets. As teenagers, girls are told youre not going out looking like that. As adults, women are told to keep their doors and windows locked, not to walk anywhere alone after dark, not to look at men in the wrong way, not to open the door to strange men, not to wear short skirts or low cut tops, not to give a guy their number, not to take public transport or a taxi alone, not to sleep with multiple people, not to drink too much, not to live alone, not to be weak, not to get raped. Because if we do any of these things, well, it was our fault wasnt it? We led him on, we asked for it, we wanted to get raped. Thats rape culture
http://lifelovelauren13.wordpress.com/2012/08/24/rape-culture-101/
Nice article from a young UK woman who writes a kick ass blog
niyad
(113,532 posts)By day I live in terror
By night I live in fright
For as long as I can remember
A lady don't go out alone at night, no no
A lady don't go out alone at night
But I don't accept the verdict
It's a wrong one anyway
Cause nowadays a woman
Can't even go out in the middle of the day, safely
Can't go out in the middle of the day
And so we've got to fight back
In large numbers
Fight back, I can't make it alone
Fight back, in large numbers
Together we can make a safe home
Together we can make a safe home
Women all around the world
Every color, religion and age
One thing weve got in common
We can all be battered and raped
We can all be battered and raped
Some have an easy answer
They buy a lock and they live in a cage
But my fear is turning to anger
And my anger's turning to rage
And I won't live my life in a cageno!
By day I live in terror
By night I live in fright
For as long as I can remember
A lady don't go out at nightfight back
http://www.hollynear.com/and_still.html
ismnotwasm
(41,999 posts)Thank you, I'll be looking for this.
Not every women can fight back individually, but together, I think we have a chance.
niyad
(113,532 posts)Some have an easy answer
They buy a lock and they live in a cage
But my fear is turning to anger
And my anger's turning to rage
And I won't live my life in a cageno!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Rape jokes are also extremely disrespectful to victims of rape and sexual assault. Rape and sexual assault can cause post-traumatic stress disorder, depression, panic attacks, anxiety, eating disorders, self-harm, drug abuse and even suicide. Making light of a victims experiences is only going to trigger and/or intensify these potentially life-threatening consequences. I dont know about you, but Id rather just say a different joke than trigger a potential suicide. But hey, thats just me.
Not convinced yet? Okay, well consider this. Feminists dont think all men rape, but rapists do. Rapists believe that all other men rape, but they cover their tracks better. So, when you make, or like, or retweet a rape joke, youre saying to a rapist Im with you, Im on your side. You are condoning rape. You may even be encouraging that rapist. Still think rape jokes are funny?
reality. gang rape, rape porn is popular today. when i read and heard about the rape scene in tattoo girl, 3 minutes of graphic up close rape like no mainstream movie, along with the popularity of rape porn, my biggest issue was going over the line to create rape as entertainment. deadwood, games of throne, sons of anarchy, rape is entertainment in our mainstream media. the movies this last year, rape is entertainment. we went over the line, normalizing rape to get off on.
something for us to think about.
it feeds thru out our society and does not stay in a confined little area of entertainment.
In the blog, she states: "Feminists dont think all men rape, but rapists do. Rapists believe that all other men rape, but they cover their tracks better." Is that true?
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I'm sure those of us who have spent a while reading about these issues can rattle off a list of examples. Others may not even have noticed it, because it's portrayed as romantic. Normalized.
I still can't help but to love the scene in Blade Runner when Deckard first kisses Rachel. But she is trying to leave his apartment before the kiss, and he slams the door as she tries to leave. It's a very rapey scene, but for those of us who grew up thinking that well, maybe if it was at least a guy we liked, then maybe being forced to do something you didn't want to just then... maybe that isn't so bad.
And who else remembers Luke and Laura?
I wonder how many girls had boyfriends rape them, and the girls were so conditioned to acquiesce, that it took however long before they even realized that ... holy shit, he raped me...
What a world...
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)by grabbing strange women on the street and kissing them.
(Because if a man is feeling good, he's entitled to celebrate by helping himself to some female action? Or something?)
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)that one does have me chuckling that people are saying this out loud. sure, it is ok. they were happy. grab a woman, exciting times. lol. oh, someone said it well. almost like you.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It's true though... the spittle flicking outrage because someone dared to point out that maybe it wasn't welcome and was therefore assault... as if daring to discuss such an idea is so threatening... but then, I suppose it is, in a way.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)What the everlovin' fuck?
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It's put quite clearly here... but a jury hid the post, interestingly. I would love to see the jury results.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=11548
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)like, how about the rape victim. no, i do not have the alert.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Most people don't even see it. And when its pointed out, it is NOT FUCKING APPRECIATED. >
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Huh.
Curious.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)sexist slurs are fun.... talking about a serious issue, nah, not so much fun.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)of her own body. it was expected she would submit to the kiss, slap on the ass, pinch and anything else the male felt his right to impose on a woman. but, ... lets pretend it is a matter of celebration alone.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It wasn't till the 70's that MacKinnon dared to say that women had the right to at least not be treated like men's playthings while at work.
CrispyQ
(36,502 posts)And on our forum, no less.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Huh. I didn't know that was alerted & hidden.
Huh.
Curious.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)It's a strange sort of progressive website, all right.
ismnotwasm
(41,999 posts)Liberal men who pick up on what liberal feminists are really trying to say or are open to discussion as opposed to a snark fest, generally show a exceptional strength of character.
Most don't bother because they don't have too. Even if they're decent men in other ways--Unless its politically expedient, and/or doesn't interfere with their sexual entitlement, there is no real concern about causes and conditions that create women's issues. It's simply not there; they'll talk about problems, but not causes, unless they can blame women for those same causes and conditions. They're easily threatened and just as easily frightened.
A perfect example of the disconnect is FGM. I have never seen a thread in the general forums about FGM where male circumcision is not brought up as analogous. It's cognitive dissonance all the way.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and actually saying it out loud. whether from the pornification/sexualization of women to the repug gov infringing on rights.
it just seems to me like i see more and more awareness than a mere year ago.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)but then I realized that you are not talking about here on DU.
So elsewhere, yes, I have noticed more awareness. Definitely.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)not talking du. du is regressing along with society. no. lol. outside of du.
CrispyQ
(36,502 posts)I think a lot of rape falls under this category. And I think that very few of these perpetrators think of themselves as rapists. Nor does society, as well as many of the victims.
So, so sad.
CrispyQ
(36,502 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)clear
100 dont rape. 1 does. not much about the skirt.
CrispyQ
(36,502 posts)The men who are not rapists are mad that we ("radical" feminists) think that all men are rapists.
We don't.
But women can't distinguish which men are rapists & which are not.
Hey guys, looking out for my best interests trumps your ego. Maybe you should start calling out the rapists in your ranks, instead of blaming us.
These men know what it's about. They are 'real' men.
* Thanks to the HOF who posted this vid originally. I love it!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)love the whole tape.
the thing. really crispy. it has been explained so many times. so many men get it easily and will step in and explain. and there will continue to be the handful that the radfems are saying ALL men are rapist. strawman. made up. purposely. i ignore them.
love the video though. thanks for putting it up
CrispyQ
(36,502 posts)I love this vid. LOVE. IT.
"I can't take you anywhere." ~lol
So many fab things in this vid! Love the shot where all the guys are sitting on the stair steps - all kinds of guys! Types of guys one might not expect!
on edit: Diversity Rocks!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,999 posts)"Don't say it at all"
Love it.