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Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 07:31 PM Jul 2015

What ISIS Really Wants

[font size=+2]What ISIS Really Wants[/font]

The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.

What is the Islamic State? Where did it come from, and what are its intentions? The simplicity of these questions can be deceiving, and few Western leaders seem to know the answers. In December, The New York Times published confidential comments by Major General Michael K. Nagata, the Special Operations commander for the United States in the Middle East, admitting that he had hardly begun figuring out the Islamic State’s appeal. “We have not defeated the idea,” he said. “We do not even understand the idea.” In the past year, President Obama has referred to the Islamic State, variously, as “not Islamic” and as al-Qaeda’s “jayvee team,” statements that reflected confusion about the group, and may have contributed to significant strategic errors.

The group seized Mosul, Iraq, last June, and already rules an area larger than the United Kingdom. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been its leader since May 2010, but until last summer, his most recent known appearance on film was a grainy mug shot from a stay in U.S. captivity at Camp Bucca during the occupation of Iraq. Then, on July 5 of last year, he stepped into the pulpit of the Great Mosque of al-Nuri in Mosul, to deliver a Ramadan sermon as the first caliph in generations—upgrading his resolution from grainy to high-definition, and his position from hunted guerrilla to commander of all Muslims. The inflow of jihadists that followed, from around the world, was unprecedented in its pace and volume, and is continuing.

Our ignorance of the Islamic State is in some ways understandable: It is a hermit kingdom; few have gone there and returned. Baghdadi has spoken on camera only once. But his address, and the Islamic State’s countless other propaganda videos and encyclicals, are online, and the caliphate’s supporters have toiled mightily to make their project knowable. We can gather that their state rejects peace as a matter of principle; that it hungers for genocide; that its religious views make it constitutionally incapable of certain types of change, even if that change might ensure its survival; and that it considers itself a harbinger of—and headline player in—the imminent end of the world.

The Islamic State, also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), follows a distinctive variety of Islam whose beliefs about the path to the Day of Judgment matter to its strategy, and can help the West know its enemy and predict its behavior. Its rise to power is less like the triumph of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (a group whose leaders the Islamic State considers apostates) than like the realization of a dystopian alternate reality in which David Koresh or Jim Jones survived to wield absolute power over not just a few hundred people, but some 8 million.

MUCH MORE....
http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/


This is a pretty long read, complicated and nuanced, but worth the time, imho, if you're trying to understand what exactly is going on over there. It's from the March 2015 issue, so it's not super current, but I only saw it for the first time last night when someone referenced it in a General Discussion thread, then I had some time to read it today. This Group doesn't get very much activity anyways, but it seemed like a good place to post it.
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What ISIS Really Wants (Original Post) Electric Monk Jul 2015 OP
"It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs..." HeiressofBickworth Jul 2015 #1
Kick for current importance. HuckleB Nov 2015 #2
We should really stop calling them ISIS or ISIL, we should call them DAESH instead Electric Monk Nov 2015 #3
Good point. HuckleB Nov 2015 #4

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
1. "It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs..."
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jul 2015

Yes -- psychopaths/sociopaths. They are using the construct of fundamentalist religion to act out their own personal murderous desires. No thought of governing, just death and destruction.

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