2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Hillary Clinton Hires Daughter of Planned Parenthood's Chief"
Is this really true???
No...I did not create this...it is from a Twitter post.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-planned-parenthood-ties-120794
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)(Sept. 2013) Press secretary to Sen. Tim Kaine (VA) after serving as press secretary on his 2012 campaign. Press secretary to Sen. Richard Blumenthal (CT). Deputy press secretary on Gov. Ted Strickland's 2010 re-election campaign. Part of the press team on Creigh Deeds' 2009 campaign for governor of Virginia. B.A. in politics from Brandeis University, 2009. Daughter of Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Action Fund, and granddaughter of Ann Richards.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)they make no difference to you?
well that really says a lot about you.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)I've been here almost 13 years, what do my posts say about my support of Democrats and liberal issues?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)it wasn't what sold her for the position. Her mom's organization's endorsement got her the job. But nice insult. What's yours like?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)of corruption brought to us by big money that we must fight if we are ever hoping to return to a democracy.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)No need for translation here... Hillary Inc. standing true to form... Standard operating Procedure...
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)RandySF
(59,221 posts)Or Burlington College sending a Sanders family friend to a resort in the Caribbean while Mr.s Sanders was working there?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)What endorsements did Bernie get from either of those things?
Not like that at all. How absurd.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)what major group endorsements did Bernie get for hiring family members?
MrChuck
(279 posts)until I read about the accusations against Sanders.
The amounts of money aren't sexy at all and the resort sounds like a dorm. The family friend who was running the place probably barely broke even on the deal.
The story is a non starter unlike the issue with HRH buying a giant endorsement.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)How unusual.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)oasis
(49,407 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Daughter of organization is hired to Hillary's campaign. Said organization then endorses Hillary at an opportunistic time (right before Iowa). You know what that sounds like? CEO of Goldman Sachs joins the Federal Reserve board. The Federal Reserve then gives Goldman Sachs billions of dollars in bailout money. Notice the trend?
Autumn
(45,120 posts)"democrats" to do.
oasis
(49,407 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)pissing off the voters in the lower ranks
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)elias49
(4,259 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)#ImWithHer
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Hillary can't do anything right.
DUbeornot2be
(367 posts)...she can't do anything left...
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)and the computer typed the rest of a different subject line.
And I was distracted and didn't notice.
But thanks again.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Des Moines Register:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/rekha-basu/caucus/2015/09/10/column-ann-richards-granddaughter-working-clinton-iowa/72019682/
Lily Adams, 28, is the Clinton campaigns Iowa communications director. Shes the first born of the former Texas governors eight grandchildren, the eldest child of Anns daughter, Cecile Richards, an activist in her own right. Cecile has made headlines lately combating congressional efforts to defund Planned Parenthood over some undercover videos taken by anti-abortion activists. Shes president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, dubbed the face of womens health in the United States by The New Yorker.
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Your point being what?
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)If she's anything like her extremely talented grandmother, it sounds like a good hire to me.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)An endorsement that has never happened before.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)and last summer when PP was undergoing the fake video scandal, Hillary was immediately at its side. Hillary also testified strongly before Congress on the subject of abortion several years ago.
PP and Hillary have long had a strong connection. Cecile didn't need to do this to get a job for her talented daughter.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Why should she be eliminated for consideration because of her mother?
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20120608-texas-born-leader-of-planned-parenthood-is-driven-by-those-who-would-roll-back-abortion-rights.ece
SunSeeker
(51,695 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)SunSeeker
(51,695 posts)It's use of the word "hires" implies it just happened, as "payment" for PP's endorsement on Thursday, when in fact Lily Adams was hired 5 months ago. The OP/tweet also implies she was hired for no other reason than that she was Cecile Richards' daughter. In fact, she was hired to be communications director as someone experienced in that field, having worked for Tim Kane in a similar capacity. And of course being a pro choice activist made her a great fit with the Hillary campaign.
PP and Hillary have a long history fighting for women's reproductive rights together. Bernie has no similar history with PP. PP honored Hillary previously with the Sanger award. Hillary's ardent support of PP during the recent severe attacks on PP over the "sale of baby parts video" was at some risk to her campaign, as the NYTimes pointed out. http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/07/planned-parenthood-in-its-first-primary-endorsement-backs-hillary-clinton/ It is only natural that PP would endorse Hillary.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)That she'd been working for the Governor of Virginia.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and the list goes on from there.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)you can say whatever you want but don't give yourself credit for things you haven't done.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Call it cronyism, call it nepotism, call it an incestuous combination of both. Call it quid pro quo. I call it slimy, just like the way everything about the Clintons is.
No surprise that Hillary supporters think it's fine. When all you ever know is slime, slime is the only thing that looks right.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It's hard to get a job without knowing people. That's OK for the little people, but not a campaign for POTUS? They know of her due to her previous work. And we also do not know how many people they interviewed and what their resumes were.
I got my second and third jobs because of people I worked with in the course of my first, second jobs. I guess my getting jobs 2 and 3 is "slimy."
And no doubt you've gotten jobs because of people who knew you too.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)And I've never even HAD a job that made anyone think of it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)There are books about how to develop your contacts. It is not considered unethical in this society to seek jobs via people you know.
Here in Delaware it is said you can't get a job unless you "know somebody." I don't like that as I don't know a lot of important people.
But then I get clients who were referred by other clients. That's unethical and slimy? I don't think it is.
Every job you have been hired for was by people who never heard of you before or any of your prior work? All cold calls? If so, good for you, but it's hard to believe that as time went on you'd forego telling the people you already knew about your job search and they would point out openings if they heard about them.
No one but BS supporters thinks any of this unethical.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Bernie hired both his wife and step-daughter to work for him for money. I'm sure they worked hard and deserved it. But all this seems a bit "the pot calling the kettle black."
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)And general sliminess.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 9, 2016, 11:37 AM - Edit history (4)
this stuff at him, you'll be just as outraged at him, right? Because nepotism?
OTOH, I see nothing wrong with him paying his wife and step- daughter because I'm sure they did plenty of actual work for him and were good at it. As Jeff Weaver said, "They earned every penny they got." In fact, his wife probably was underpaid for the work she did.
At the same time, it just doesn't seem fair to criticize Hillary for hiring a very qualified person who was Ann Richard's granddaughter, who also probably earns every penny she gets.
I am not familiar with the site that this Vanity Fair article refers to as right-leaning, but it appears that they based the report on public records.
From Vanity Fair:
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/bernie-sanders-family-money
A new report suggests that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders and his wife have repeatedly done the most socialist thing ever: funnel thousands of campaign and nonprofit dollars toward family members and friends.
According to an investigation by the right-leaning Washington Free Beacon, Sanderss spouse of 27 years, Jane OMeara Sanders, and his stepdaughter, Carina Driscoll, both drew sizable salaries from Sanderss House campaigns between 2000 and 2004. Public records examined by the online paper reportedly show OMeara Sanders was paid more than $90,000 for consulting and ad placement services between 2002 and 2004, while Driscoll received $65,000 from the campaign over the course of four years.
But while its not unheard of for campaigns to bring family members on board, the Free Beacons revelations about Sanderss wifes tenure as the president of Burlington College will certainly raise eyebrows. During her time there, the college paid nearly $500,000 to the Vermont Woodworking School, run by Driscoll, for classes, according to the Free Beacon. The college also reportedly paid tens of thousands of dollars to an all-inclusive Caribbean resort run by Jonathan Leopold, the son of a family friend, for a study-abroad program. Between 2009 and 2011, when OMeara Sanders stepped down, Burlington College paid around $68,000 to the resort. The Free Beacon reports that payments to both the woodworking school and the resort stopped soon after she left.
http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/jane-says-sanders-secret-weapon-or-a-political-liability/Content?oid=2670992
The Maplefields owner also criticizes O'Meara Sanders and her daughter, Carina Driscoll, for their paid work, more than a decade ago, on Sanders' reelection campaigns. In addition to the $30,000 O'Meara Sanders made, Driscoll earned $65,002 for her work as campaign manager, fundraiser and database manager during the 2000 and 2004 cycles, the Reformer reported.
Vallee calls the payments "a money-laundering scheme" designed "to take campaign money and put it in your own bank account," noting that the House subsequently voted to ban the practice. Weaver defended the arrangement at the time, saying, "They earned every penny they got."
Vallee also questions Burlington College's affiliation with the for-profit, Fairfax-based Vermont Woodworking School, which Driscoll cofounded and runs. Though it was arranged under O'Meara Sanders' reign, a 2011 evaluation by the New England Association of Schools and Colleges found that the mother-daughter "relationship is clear to all constituents, from the Board on down to the faculty" and that measures had been taken to avoid conflicts of interest.
Driscoll declined to comment, as did the Sanders campaign, though last fall spokesman Michael Briggs called Vallee "pathetic" and a "junior varsity version of the Koch brothers."
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)politically beneficial, even better yet. I don't get all this crap. She's qualified. Sure there are a lot of other qualified, but she is a known quantity. I'd take that any day of the week. Trustworthy...because alliances are at stake. In politics there is a lot of chicanery.
Now, if she did not have a heavy background in politics...then it's nepotism, IMO. She got her BA in it, so she's pretty committed.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)SEVEN (7) U.S. Ambassadors have been murdered in the HISTORY of this country. ONE of them happened on Hillary Clinton's watch... WHILE he was sending her urgent messages she couldn't be bothered with. That's evidence of a systemic communication problem within the State Department. Hillary Clinton's State Department.
You mean like that?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Rhetorical devices meant to stifle discussion seem to be all the rage these days. The only thing you left out is "RW talking point". Try harder.
If you think this isn't a taste of what's to come should Hillary Clinton win the nomination... think again.
I find this line less offensive than one of Hillary's supporters comparing Elizabeth Warren to Thomas Eagleton. Am I wrong in remembering that women were routinely subjected to electroshock therapy SIMPLY for being women?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)security at the consulate?
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)I did not see them. I did not approve them. I did not deny them,
An Ambassador. Who doesn't have his boss' personal email address, because she didn't give it to him.
Systemic communications problems at Hillary Clinton's State Department.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)The congressman alleged that Chris Stevens, the U.S. ambassador who died in the attacks, had less access to the former secretary of state than her friend Sidney Blumenthal, who repeatedly emailed Clinton about Libya in the months before Sept. 11, 2012.
"Ambassador Stevens didn't have your email, is that correct? Your personal email?" Pompeo asked.
"Yes, that's right," Clinton replied.
"Did he have your cell phone number?" Pompeo asked.
"No, but he had the 24-hour number of state operations at the State Department," Clinton said.
"Did he have your fax number?" Pompeo asked.
"He had the fax number of the State Department," Clinton responded.
"Did he have your home address?" he shot back.
"No, I don't think any ambassador has ever asked me for that," Clinton said.
"Did he ever stop by your house?" Pompeo asked.
"No, he did not, Congressman," Clinton responded, looking a bit exasperated.
Her answers proving sufficient, Pompeo proceeded to make his point.
"Mr. Blumenthal had each of those and did each of those things," he said. "This man who provided you so much information on Libya had access to you in ways that were very different than the access that a very senior diplomat had to you and your person."
Note that you've adopted the line of attack from the Republicans that was so idiotic that even other Republicans disowned it as stupid.
Unreal. For the record, I highly doubt there's a Secretary of State who gave her personal email address to all 190+ Ambassadors.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)You just keep on whistling past that graveyard.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)The absolute most juvenile thing I ever see on DU is people like you using "your side/fox/rw talking points/breitbart" as an insult and/or way of shaming people into shutting up every time you see an opinion you find distasteful, or critical of Hillary Clinton.
My side. Sweet Jesus but you're predictable.
What I'll find crushing is Hillary Clinton getting the Democratic Party's nomination for President and not having a second to get her message out because she's distracted by mentions of her paste sliminess... costing "my side" the election.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Or in fact would assume the worst of?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)she has held communication roles for many candidates and Democratic representatives in the past.
okasha
(11,573 posts)hires experieced communications director who is the granddaughter of a strongly feminst Democratic governor and daughter of the strongly feminist director of a reproductive health organization strongly supported by Democrats, Independents, other liberals and feminists. Five months later said organization, now fighting for its life against Republicans, endorses strongly feminist Democratic candidate.
Pearl-clutching ensues. Fainting couches in short supply.
treestar
(82,383 posts)endorsement.
It's just the outraged speculation of Bernie supporters upset PP didn't endorse him.
it's silly to claim PP would not have endorsed Hillary but for this hire. And it is based on a personal relationship too.
I doubt the granddaughter of Ann Richards has such trouble finding a job that her mother's would use PP to get it. And no proof Hillary wouldn't have hired the young lady unless PP gave her an endorsement. This is that fictional evil Hillary people keep inventing. "If you endorse me, I'll hire your daughter" kind of fiction. Yeah right. The daughter could get a job elsewhere.
They are all on the same side at any rate. Why would Hillary or the Richards' descendants need this bargain?
The hire would have been made without the endorsement. And the endorsement would have been made without the hire. Who else would PP endorse? Not a Republican. Not Bernie - he doesn't focus on women's issues like Hillary does.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Is because an organization deeply cherished by all sides of the party suddenly decided to break its 100 year policy of not endorsing primary candidates in the very year we have 3 candidates running who are all totally commited to protecting them.
Personally I don't think it was because of this daughter thing, but I do think it was a stupid and damaging endorsement for the party.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Why did you ask the OP be googled. The facts are correct.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)the ONE candidate who previously testified in Congress on the need for abortions for women's health, and who had previously received their Margaret Sanger award.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Is your Google broken?
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)pointed me to an article about her.
And now I know something else. She was well-qualified for the job:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20120608-texas-born-leader-of-planned-parenthood-is-driven-by-those-who-would-roll-back-abortion-rights.ece
Its just the two of them now. Their twins, Hannah and Daniel, are away at college. Older daughter Lily works as press secretary for Tim Kaine, a U.S. Senate candidate in Virginia and the states former governor.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)in favor of abortion or receive the Margaret Sanger award?
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)What gene did Ann Richards pass to her granddaughter which made her a "good hire".
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Unfortunately, the "good hire" gene seems to occur almost exclusively in families with good political connections.
pnwmom
(108,994 posts)And I'm not surprised she got involved in politics, with her grandmother as her mentor.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20120608-texas-born-leader-of-planned-parenthood-is-driven-by-those-who-would-roll-back-abortion-rights.ece
Its just the two of them now. Their twins, Hannah and Daniel, are away at college. Older daughter Lily works as press secretary for Tim Kaine, a U.S. Senate candidate in Virginia and the states former governor.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)IOW, the most important gene of all.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)That is Hillaryism.
This makes me just sick.
If there is one thing I hate it is politicians who travel in little elitist circles doing favors for one another.
They all do it at some level, but there is definitely a strata of politicians who wallow in this kind of behavior.
Hillary Clinton is one of the worst as evidenced by this report and the whole Clinton Foundation situation.
The sour smell of elitism and superiority emanating from Hillary Clinton and her campaign gets fouler everyday.
And this hurts and taints Planned Parenthood, too ... an organization I support and believe is so necessary.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)One dating back to Hillary's 2008 campaign, according to the link at post #4.
"
Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clintons campaign has hired former Planned Parenthood organizer Lisa Changedveja to help generate support from Asian Americans. Changedveja will be in charge of the outreach program for the Asian American and Pacific Islander communities. ...
Changedvejas current position is similar to one she had for Clintons super PAC in 2008, when she handled Asian and LGBT outreach. She isnt the first Planned Parenthood alum to join Clintons campaign, as one of Clintons top staffers in Iowa is the daughter of Cecile Richards, CEO of Planned Parenthood."
grasswire
(50,130 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Perfectly transparent insider cronyism.
safeinOhio
(32,715 posts)I have been sending checks to PP for years and a lot more lately. I may not send anymore.
This may end up hurting PP more than HRC.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)They didn't need to endorse...it gained them nothing but a serious backlash, and this will make it worse.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)All three of our candidates strongly support PP and what it woks for. When PP endorses in a Presidential election it does so based on strong policy differences between the Republicans and Democrats. Here they have descended directly into the fray of politics. Nothing wrong with politics, I'm involved with it all the time, but it recasts the perception of PP along more partisan lines and frames their political involvement more as advocating preferred people among their supporters rather than preferred policies for the American people.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)It will end up hurting women. Period. Not PP. Not Hillary. Women. Get that? Poor women who have no fucking say in who PP endorses.
But you go on with your bad ass self and withholding your checks.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Nyan
(1,192 posts)Bringing ppl with connections into their circle, keeping them on their payroll, creating this quid pro quo symbiotic relationships among themselves so they eventually further build their connections.
And for what, really? Because they have bankers and billionnaires in that circle. What do their connections stand for other than themselves, the Clintons?
senz
(11,945 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)should be stopped from pissing our leg and telling us its gold standard Clinton-brand. Its time for a revolution.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)given that, the endorsement doesn't look good. Planned Parenthood should have withheld an official endorsement, in my opinion.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)since it is without precedent and since Hillary's primary opponents are supporters of Planned Parenthood and its issues. edit to add, the hiring of Richards' daughter by Hillary just adds to the impropriety of the endorsement.
treestar
(82,383 posts)it isn't even said she is working for PP!
It shouldn't mean PP can't endorse whoever they want.
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)everywhere - just so long as Hillary Clinton can be trashed!
Buh-bye to you and your thread for me, so please don't bother to reply.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Thanks for the OP, definitely adds context to understanding the primary endorsement.
ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)dsc
(52,166 posts)instead of staying home barefoot and pregnant and serving sandwiches to Bernie Bros. The horror of it all. It is perfectly OK for David Sirota to write, without disclosing the fact he worked for Sanders for years, screeds against Hillary but let some woman get a job for which she is qualified in spades and it had to be to buy an endorsement. Yet another case of it is OK if you have a penis.
zalinda
(5,621 posts)If Lily Adams had been writing articles praising Hillary, no one would have a problem with it.
The fact that PP has NEVER given an endorsement in a primary before, THAT is the problem. Whether or not if is quid pro quo or not, it was in VERY bad form. If you running for President, you should not have any aura of controversy surrounding your campaign and that is just not the case with Hillary. This is one of the reasons that Hillary is so distrusted.
Z
dsc
(52,166 posts)Larry Cohen resigned as President of the Communication workers of America in June of 2015 to work for Sanders campaign, in December of 2015 that union, now headed by a person who ran on Cohen's ticket, endorsed Sanders. Again, it is OK if you have a penis.
zalinda
(5,621 posts)Except the Communication Workers of America, from my understanding, has always endorsed a primary candidate while Planned Parenthood has never endorsed a primary candidate.
And what does having a penis do with it? Are you trying to say that Planned Parenthood and Hillary are only being 'attacked' because they have a vagina?
Z
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Two posts in a row.
The problem is that Planned Parenthood and the women it serves have NEVER been under such systematic and concentrated right wing attack before.
The unprecedented endorsement is a response to that unprecedented attack.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Sanders hired Larry Cohen of the Communication workers of America, gets endorsed by that union 6 months later (with it being led by the VP under Cohen) and no one says boo.
treestar
(82,383 posts)then her salary for that job is going to compensate her for her work.
It is not to "buy" PP's endorsement. This kind of thing is getting pretty silly.
One, you are accusing PP of wanting money to give out their endorsement. So if Trump paid them enough, they'd endorse him. That's silly. Two, someone being paid to do a job is getting the money, not PP.
I don't like the nepotistic flavor of it all, as I'd like to get that job and likely have no chance (say I'm qualified) but that's life. It's like that everywhere. People know of someone who could do the job because of their previous contacts. That's why we try to make as many contacts as possible.
Karma13612
(4,554 posts)Why am I not surprised.
Wonder if they decided against Chelsea being on the campaign trail since she just announced she is pregnant again? At least I thought I heard that somewhere.
Edit-
Oh, this is old news. The daughter has been with the the campaign awhile.
Ok, this puts it in a slightly different light. Daughter involved in Iowa. Iowa up for grabs. Time for Mom to drop a big endorsement.
Sorted.
randome
(34,845 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 9, 2016, 11:54 AM - Edit history (1)
The MSM is conspiring against Sanders.
Planned Parenthood is conspiring against Sanders.
The DNC is conspiring against Sanders.
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is conspiring against Sanders.
The IT company that works for the DNC is conspiring against Sanders.
The polling companies are conspiring against Sanders.
And, of course, those of us on DU who support the eventual nominee (Clinton or Sanders) are conspiring against Sanders.
Wow. I didn't think it possible for this group to assemble a conspiracy theory that outdoes the one created to explain Julian Assange!
DU ROCKS!
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comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)What is the matter with his campaign staff?
They just really blew this one.
I'm really losing confidence in his ability to run anything.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)Those buses have to make wide turns and we wouldn't want anybody to get hurt
pangaia
(24,324 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Here's Clinton with Cecile Richards' late mother.
Democratic women who have been in the trenches fighting for women's rights for decades. That's not nefarious. It's what happens when Democrats get together to get things done. They form relationships and alliances. It's not impartial. There is no reason it should be. They stand together in shared values of human equality as made possible through reproductive choice.
Describing that as nefarious shows a very different set of priorities. I am glad that Clinton and the Richards women have stood together fighting for my rights over several decades. Now I witness others work against those rights because they insist Bernie Sanders career is more important than the population Planned Parenthood serves. There really is nothing left to know about that campaign and what it stands for.
Hekate
(90,793 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)And if you analyze the relationship is this not at all out of the realm of what is expected, as they are long time friends, etc.
The so called left are going to destroy themselves with all this hate of Hillary.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)if the information is reported elsewhere, as long as it can be found at what they consider a conservative source as well, it CAME from a conservative source.
They want you to be ashamed, and to stop posting.
randys1
(16,286 posts)9-22-15 I wont link it
fact though
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)It is a fact that there are other links. I don't read Brietbart.
randys1
(16,286 posts)here to harm Hillary
wow
and you all claim to be liberals?
puhleaz
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)reason PP wound up endorsing her--because they perceive that she and her supporters are stronger advocates for the right to choose than Sanders and his supporters.
The "defund Planned Parenthood" campaign from some Sanders supporters certainly indicates that his supporters are not all champions of the right to choose.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)octopus, that it's hollowed itself out and will come crawling to whoever has the purse-strings
CincyDem
(6,385 posts)Looks like a well qualified young woman got a great job consistent with her personal beliefs where she can make the most impact at this time in her life.
As stated elsewhere, Clinton and PP have been joined at the him for years, decades (and possible centuries !!!). Given the fact that Lily Adams appears, for all intents and purposes, to be a very employable young woman - it's hard to believe that hiring her was any favor to Richards. I'm not sure what post Adams left to join the campaign but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that it's Adams doing Clinton a favor in this one.
Let's focus on the qualifications rather than the DNA. Young democratic leadership does just appear out of thin air...it comes from interest, learning, commitment, family values...and probably a whole lot more than that. My point is that we shouldn't discredit her because her beginnings weren't humble enough for the masses.
I don't know. Just feels sexist (or maybe elitist) to to believe that the only way she could have gotten this job is for her mama to commit the full political weight of an organization like PP to Clinton. I call bullshit on that hogwash.
And to be clear (because it seems like this is starting to become a required loyalty oath around here these days)...as an Ohioan, my choice of Democratic candidates will likely be limited in the primaries but without question, the entire CincyDem household (that's all 8 of us across 3 generations) will be voting Dem in November. Clinton (D), O'Malley (D), Sanders (D), Ham Sandwich (D)...they're all on my list come November vs. Clown Car (R).
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Beacool
(30,251 posts)I wonder if some of you realize how desperate and pathetic these types of OPs sound? Support your candidate of choice, but raise the level of discourse.
This board has become as putrid as a latrine.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)to make her payoffs after she is in the WH like past politicians did. Up front just makes us distrust her even more.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Unbelievable. This must mean the end is finally near
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Typical Clinton move!
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)Way to sellout PP, Richards!
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)Do some here seriously not understand the concept of networking?
Planned Parenthood is a great organization regardless. What's wrong with them supporting the Democratic Party front runner - who is, by the way, a woman and feminist icon? That's an extraordinary positive opportunity for Democrats and supporters of women's issues, people.
stone space
(6,498 posts)Welcome to Iowa, Lily!