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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 06:20 PM Jan 2016

Is it even possible to have a 'superpac" and still be genuinely progressive?

Given that big donors always insist that progressive values be diluted down to nothing(especially on the economic issues that affect most of us more than anything else) how could it be?

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Uncle Joe

(58,417 posts)
1. Honestly I don't see how, you can't take the mafia's money and believe
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jan 2016

they don't expect something in return.

Thanks for the thread, Ken Burch.

brooklynite

(94,728 posts)
7. Because wealthy people are always conservative and the working class are always liberal?
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jan 2016

Simplified platitudes make life easier I guess....

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
11. A few wealthy people can be liberal on things that don't threaten their power or privilege.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jan 2016

Things that can be important, but not transformative. Things that are righteous but essentially safe in terms of power relations.

(as Clinton supporter Katha Pollitt pointed out, this is part of the reason why the fight for LGBTQ rights, even though it is far from over, seem to be doing better than the defense of reproductive choice. LGBTQ rights aren't threatening to wealthy male power in the same way that reproductive choice, without which no form of feminism or any meaningful existence for women outside the home, let alone any possibility of the smashing of the glass ceiling, is even remotely possibly, is.)

But none of the ones who write big checks to superpacs can ever have Bobby Kennedy passion about things like poverty or racism or(at times) class.

Especially none of the rich people who support trade globalization on corporate terms.

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