Re: Susan Sarandon's quote.

[Uncle Joe]

Actress Susan Sarandon says that a woman’s vagina should not necessarily determine for whom to vote.

In the New York City Democrat mayoral primary, the liberal actress, 66, apparently has switched her support from Christine Quinn to the previously little known Bill de Blasio.

Quinn, the City Council Speaker, would be the first female mayor of New York City if elected.

Sarandon showed up at a de Blasio fundraiser Sunday night and according to the New York Observer, had this to say about the primary candidates and endorsing for reasons other than gender: “As a woman, initially I was interested in Quinn. It became clear to me that, you know as a woman, you can’t just vote your vagina.” Sarandon evidently learned more about the de Blasio campaign from “Sex and the City” star Cynthia Nixon, who also endorsed his candidacy.

The actress reportedly became disillusioned with Quinn over issues such as term limits and paid sick leave. She also favors his emphasis on education. “I was impressed with the idea of Bill’s focus on education because I believe that is what gives you a belief in the future.”

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/915781/susan-sarandon-disavows-vaginia-voting/#AWapM6mYSjo2JSIl.99

[2pooped2pop]

1. and?

still not creepy. She is not a one issue voter.

[Uncle Joe]

2. And I agree, Having said that, I have no doubt if the roles were reversed and women

had been President throughout history, men would be at least first drawn to a man candidate for President so I can understand that.

It's not an insult to women that feel this way.

But To my way of thinking qualifications, issues, policies and experience; all of that should be preeminent that's why I support Bernie Sanders.

If I felt a woman was most qualified for the job and I agreed with her policies, I would have no problem supporting her over any male candidate.

[Uncle Joe]

3. P. S. I thought of putting the quote out there because there had been some dispute as to

what Susan said and this is the only thing I could find.

[2pooped2pop]

28. k thanks for that

I personally don't care if she actually said it or not. Didn't if first come from someone in the Senate that she was probably tongue in cheeking on? But I get her point and like Sarandon.

[Sheepshank]

4. not a one issue candidate, but an unreliable flip flopper

your Bernie supporters hate it when people change their minds...right?

This article makes it sound like Sarandon doesn't do any research until after she has made an endorsement.

[Uncle Joe]

5. People constantly change their minds as they learn new information, men or women but

there's a major difference in stating that you're for a given political policy or ideal when in fact you worked against it over years.

[Sheepshank]

7. I agree with your heading

and disagree with the rest of your text.

My post was intended to be quite facetious. I think people can and should change their minds when they have new info to weigh and consider...even if they fought for a political ideology. Elizabeth Warren is a prime example

[Uncle Joe]

8. Elizabeth wasn't a political leader making policy, she was just voting and came to her

epiphany regarding which political party was best for the economy as early as 1995.

[Sheepshank]

12. I would hate to think that any political leader would not change and grow with their consitrtuency

Every good Democratic leader should be representing their constituency, not their own personal ideology. Given information and data, the consensus about same sex marriage has changed, as has the concerns over social security and most other long term arguing points. We should all want our political leaders to not dig their heels in the ground and protect outdated and incorrect ideologies, and instead grow with new information.

I say that ALL political leaders, including Republicans should be open to change and evolving. They seem to be the worst at digging in their heels and fight change (climate change for example), even in the face of overwhelming evidence. I don't find that "never changing" type of characteristic to be particularly useful in leadership.

[Uncle Joe]

19. I see a major difference between political leaders and politicians.

Political leaders do their utmost in representing the best interests of their constituents, but that doesn't always mean going with majority opinion but using the best knowledge and information to the representative at the time combined with a strong moral foundation of what's right and wrong. Many times they will be trudging on the road less traveled. This has held particularly true in our nation over the past thirty years or so as our monopolized corporate media conglomerations laden with conflict of interest have accumulated such great persuasive power over the American People, in many cases misleading them, just for self-interest purposes.

A political leader does just that, leads the way.

Politicians to their utmost to in representing the best interests for themselves, they constantly keep their finger to the political winds and aren't the least bit hesitant at jumping in front of the parade. Their prime directive is remaining in power, if they can throw their constituents a few bones, that's fine with them so long as it doesn't rock the boat soaking the powers that be. Politicians primarily focus their energy on raising money for the next election and they will take from anyone anywhere.

A politician isn't a leader but a follower.

[Sheepshank]

21. Then we'll have to agree to diasgree

You definitions of politician vs political leaders just is and can never be defined in such absolute terms.....moderation in all things otherwise the political leader as you described becomes a dictator.

[Uncle Joe]

22. We totally disagree

History has shown that dictators fundamentally base their decisions on self-interest, delusions of grandeur, not a strong moral foundation of right and wrong, nor representing the best interests of their constituents.

[2pooped2pop]

26. what?

Bernie Sanders supporters hate it when people change their minds? Where do you get that? You mean because they hate that Clinton changes her mind according to what she thinks will go over well mostly do to polls she buys? I think that is why they call her weathervane and they are pretty sure that almost everything she is saying now, following Bernie, will change if she does get there.

But I don't think Sanders supporters hate people who change their mind in particular.

[Babel_17]

6. This was news to me, thanks! (nt)

[leftofcool]

9. Who cares?

[Uncle Joe]

10. Apparently you care, having posted on this thread.

[beam me up scottie]

11. I see Susan went under the bus today, she's being called "creepy" in GD.

Because using the V-word is you know, icky.

Now she's idiotic, a flip flopper, a bad feminist, which kind of proves her point.

[Uncle Joe]

13. Susan is a strong person with a thick skin, I don't believe it bothers her too much, she just wants

the nation to "get happy" and if she must get thrown under the bus, Susan is willing to go there for the good of the nation.

[beam me up scottie]

15. She's a hell of an activist, I'm sure she knew what would happen when she spoke up.

Unlike Janet, she's no shrinking violet!

[Uncle Joe]

20. This is one of my favorite Sarandon movies.

[Sheepshank]

14. feels awesome to slam an endorser....

....Bernie fans should know, since they've had a lot more experience in this arena.

[beam me up scottie]

16. I'm sure you're enjoying it, and she's deserves it, amirite?

I expected nothing more from you, how dare a woman speak her mind?

[Sheepshank]

17. and you almost have the most experience at that of all

no one expects different from you, that to go on the attack over and over and over and over and over and over and over.....it's what you do.

[beam me up scottie]

18. Umm hmmm.

[Warren DeMontague]

23. "unhinged", I think that's another talking point.

Has anyone called her "unhinged" yet?

Like how it's creepy and unhinged to criticize Debbie Wasserman Schultz for wanting to put terminally ill cancer patients in prison for smoking pot. Oh, sorry, CREEPY, UNHINGED AND MISOGYNISTIC!

[beam me up scottie]

24. That's next I'm sure.

Apparently all feminists are created equal, but some feminists are more equal than others.

Oh and don't forget the comparison to Nazis, anyone who wants DWS out is JUST like Hitler now.

[Warren DeMontague]

25. Only brownshirts object to the DEA throwing cancer grannies in prison for smoking weed!

Seig Hemp!

[beam me up scottie]

27. LOL!

Quit yer mansplaining, ya pony wanting pot smoking brown shirt (or is it purple gingham? I keep getting memes mixed up) socialist Nazi-bro hippie.

[senz]

30. Yes, everyone who endorses Bernie has something wrong with them

amazing how that works.

But the V-word...well, if that's "icky"... then ... what could they think of the V itself?

Just a rhetorical question, I don't really want to know.

[beam me up scottie]

34. By attacking her they're proving her point.

They're calling Susan Sarandon a misogynist, ffs.

[senz]

39. They call everyone a misogynist

It's an all-purpose put down.

[Autumn]

40. Now BMUS only republican and Independents vote based on gender, never democrats

[beam me up scottie]

42. Susan fucking Sarandon - a creepy idiotic MISOGYNIST.

Do they not see how fucking insane that is?

And when someone says Hillary and Bernie's policies are almost identical, in fact Bernie is to the left of her but I'm voting for Hillary because glass ceiling/we've never had a woman president/role model for girls, ect. why do you think that is?

Wait for it...

[Autumn]

43. Wait for it...

It's like clockwork and it always cracks me up. Every time I see it it's like the first time.

And when someone says Hillary and Bernie's policies are almost identical, in fact Bernie is to the left of her but I'm voting for Hillary because glass ceiling/we've never had a woman president/role model for girls, ect. why do you think that is?

I bow to the wisdom that is BMUS

[beam me up scottie]

44. But we're not voting on gender, no siree!

What the fuck was Susan THINKING when she said that?

[Autumn]

45. Of course not.

[Beacool]

29. Well, men have been voting for penises for centuries.

I'll vote vagina this time around.

If Susan doesn't approve, she can shove it.

[Uncle Joe]

31. Well it was certainly a rogue penis that helped Bush the least come to power.

You can vote vagina if you wish, but I'm voting for the best candidate for President.

A President that will represent the best interests of the American People; men, women, black, white, gay or straight.

I'm voting for Bernie Sanders.

[Beacool]

35. That's your right, just as it's my right to vote for Hillary.

If someone doesn't like it, too bad.

[Uncle Joe]

37. To my knowledge there has never been a dispute here as to anyone's right to vote for anyone?

[Trajan]

32. I'll keep that in mind in our future interactions

Wait ... On second thought ...

Gone ...

[senz]

33. Really?

As a woman, I don't believe I've voted for a genital in my entire life.

And I doubt Susan would be terribly interested in how you vote.

[Beacool]

36. And I don't give a fig how she votes.

That makes us even.

[senz]

38. Not really "even"

because you're pissed at her and she doesn't even know you exist.

[Beacool]

41. I'm pissed at her inane remark.

Not at her for supporting Sanders.