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liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:35 PM Jan 2016

I Do Not Support The Decision Of Planned Parenthood To Endorse Hillary Clinton.

This is not against Hillary Clinton. The reason I don't support the endorsement is because The Democratic Party has three phenomenal candidates who support a woman's right to choose and stood by Planned Parenthood. Of course Planned Parenthood should always support the Democratic candidate in a GENERAL election. (Especially considering the other guys think they're evil.) But I don't think they should have chosen one Democrat over the others. All three Democrats took a stand and supported Planned Parenthood during the rethuglican bullshit storm when they tried to defund them. Do I stand with Planned Parenthoods decision to endorse Hillary? No. Do I think Planned Parenthood should have endorsed Bernie? No. In fact if Planned Parenthood had endorsed Bernie I would be posting the same thread about that. Planned Parenthood should not have made this endorsement. I stand with Planned Parenthood, but that is the stance I am taking on the endorsement.

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I Do Not Support The Decision Of Planned Parenthood To Endorse Hillary Clinton. (Original Post) liberalnarb Jan 2016 OP
I agree. Issue groups should not sandbag supportive candidateses Armstead Jan 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Jan 2016 #11
Bernie snubbed again by a Women's Group. leftofcool Jan 2016 #2
It's a tough uphill battle to fight against the establishment esp. when they have billionaires, rhett o rick Jan 2016 #5
NARAL and Emily's List yes. Unions? No. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #8
Why is it more justified for unions than for other groups? onenote Jan 2016 #15
Women's issues aren't as important to some people YoungDemCA Jan 2016 #23
It's actually pretty obnoxious, in my opinion. When there are no real policy differences reformist2 Jan 2016 #3
this. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #20
An organization that focuses on women's issues supports a woman for President YoungDemCA Jan 2016 #24
I agree completely. All 3 of our candidates support women's healthcare. eom. jillan Jan 2016 #4
The logic is simple. This is a women’s issue, and Hillary is a women. Jack-o-Lantern Jan 2016 #6
No sir. Thats plain ignorant. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #9
Clinton-Fiorina 2016! MisterP Jan 2016 #25
That's silly. It's a social issue. Involves all people. immoderate Jan 2016 #27
They and others that have to deal / rely on the "Establishment" realize that rhett o rick Jan 2016 #7
My point was they should not endorse any Dem until the General. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #10
I don't disagree. Just trying to explain why I think they did. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #22
Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #12
How pathetic and immature of you. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #14
You are whining because a large woman's organization Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2016 #17
I still stand by my opinion that they should have endorsed one Democrat over another during liberalnarb Jan 2016 #19
I also stated that they should endorse ANY Democrat over the others. You missed the whole liberalnarb Jan 2016 #16
I agree! Goldfish Jan 2016 #13
I might not fully agree. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #18
i agree that they should have waited until the ge restorefreedom Jan 2016 #21
Well, it pisses me off. And I've been a volunteer patient escort for 25 years HERVEPA Jan 2016 #26
You have earned standing to complain & be pissed off. Divernan Jan 2016 #30
Well I'm not thrilled by any endorsements Bernie has received but underthematrix Jan 2016 #28
I'll tell you why they did... brooklynite Jan 2016 #29
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
1. I agree. Issue groups should not sandbag supportive candidateses
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jan 2016

People who support Sanders or OM should not have to be snubbed like that, especially if PP actively works to defeat them in the primary.

This looks like another case of political cronyism by the leadership of an organization that is supposed to be issue oriented.

Response to Armstead (Reply #1)

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. Bernie snubbed again by a Women's Group.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jan 2016

I suppose you feel the same about NARAL, Emily's List and the Unions?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
5. It's a tough uphill battle to fight against the establishment esp. when they have billionaires,
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jan 2016

the big banks and corporations, Citizens United, the Party leadership and the corp-media on their side. But we have the People on our side. The middle and working classes and those 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty. This is a class war and we will prevail.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
8. NARAL and Emily's List yes. Unions? No.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jan 2016

I think Unions are more entitled to make primary season endorsements. Do I think Hillary was the candidate the unions should have endorsed? No. But it makes more sense for them to endorse a candidate in the primaries. It is much more justified for a Union to endorse a candidate before the primaries. To be honest, it makes me feel uncomfortable posting these threads. I passionately support pro-choice and women's rights groups work. And I always will.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
3. It's actually pretty obnoxious, in my opinion. When there are no real policy differences
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jan 2016

between two candidates on an issue of particular concern to an interest group, it makes no sense to overtly endorse one over the other. It smacks of insiderism, cronyism. Which of course, we all know it is.
 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
9. No sir. Thats plain ignorant.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jan 2016

Like I said I don't think they should endorse any Democrat over the others. But they should not be endorsing a candidate because of the candidates gender. They should be endorsing a candidate based on they're support for a woman's right to choose.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
27. That's silly. It's a social issue. Involves all people.
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:33 AM
Jan 2016

Women decide about their reproduction. Family planning includes all parents.

--imm

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
7. They and others that have to deal / rely on the "Establishment" realize that
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jan 2016

there is a much greater chance of retribution from a Clinton Admin than from a Sanders Admin. But I agree that they should support the three candidates in the primary.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
10. My point was they should not endorse any Dem until the General.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jan 2016

After that then please, fight the repukes tooth and nail!

Response to liberalnarb (Original post)

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
17. You are whining because a large woman's organization
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jan 2016

picked the person who has fought the most for women's rights and not your personal lord and savior. There's nothing adult going on here at all.

Look, I'm a Democrat. I support Hillary Clinton. This endorsement is big for her. If, for some reason, she doesn't win the primary, I'm going to support Bernie just as much. But this ridiculous "us vs them" mentality here on DU amongst SOME Bernie supporters is ridiculous. It's the same black and white thinking that we derided when Republicans resorted to it.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
19. I still stand by my opinion that they should have endorsed one Democrat over another during
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jan 2016

primaries. Its not good for the organization itself. It estranges large groups of people who are otherwise 100% behind them. Shameful I think. I find you're attitude insulting. The belief among SOME HRC supporters that Hillary is entitled to the nomination.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
16. I also stated that they should endorse ANY Democrat over the others. You missed the whole
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jan 2016

point of the OP and went straight to low down attacks. Way to go.

Goldfish

(71 posts)
13. I agree!
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jan 2016

I was disappointed to find out that Planned Parenthood has endorsed one candidate above the others. I think doing so has politicized the organization.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
21. i agree that they should have waited until the ge
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jan 2016

they are free to do what they want, but all three dems have been rabid defenders of women's rights, health care, pay equity, choice, etc all the way.

i think its bad form and more political posturing to gain favor in case she wins. it doesn't smell good to me.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
30. You have earned standing to complain & be pissed off.
Sat Jan 9, 2016, 07:51 AM
Jan 2016

That's great that you have been on the front lines for PP for decades. Thank you for that.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
28. Well I'm not thrilled by any endorsements Bernie has received but
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 01:33 AM
Jan 2016

that's sort of the way it works. Different groups, power players, entertainers endorse the candidate of their choice.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
29. I'll tell you why they did...
Fri Jan 8, 2016, 08:12 AM
Jan 2016

It's not necessarily that Clinton is MORE pro-choice than the others; it's that Clinton has the best chance of winning the GE to protect pro-choice gains.

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