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People who still think we were right to be in Vietnam will never vote Democratic again. (Original Post) Ken Burch Dec 2015 OP
Just wondering were you around during the Vietnam War? awake Dec 2015 #1
I had relatives. They didn't hate CO's. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #2
Having lived through that time awake Dec 2015 #5
I turned twenty in 73 the last year of the draft. I got lucky, I had a high lottery number. Snotcicles Dec 2015 #10
Hillary Was Around... And She Is Just Itchin ... To Get Her Hands On The Wheel of Our CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #17
I don't know anyone who thinks it was right. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #3
Anyone who thinks America's war in Vietnam was a good war is no friend of mine. nt Electric Monk Dec 2015 #4
My father and uncle are Vietnam vets TeddyR Dec 2015 #6
I had friends killed in that war, guys that I served with. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #7
From the context, I assume you want "bad idea"... malthaussen Dec 2015 #8
Thanks Mal, fixed it. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #9
Didn't we all. n/t malthaussen Dec 2015 #15
No shit. Warren Stupidity Dec 2015 #11
The world is not black and white. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #12
Reagan said it was a "noble cause." Reagan also visited the KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #18
Back in the 60s a lot of Democrats supported the Viet Nam War. comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #13
Historical note: Humphrey broke with LBJ over the war after he was nominated but KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #19
Thanks for reminding us of that. n/t. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #22
Back in the 60s, yes. But that was decades ago. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #23
It's the dominoes! SCVDem Dec 2015 #14
I'm not sure. dogman Dec 2015 #16
There might be some who lost people close to them in the war dsc Dec 2015 #20
CO status was available to all who applied for it, though. It didn't require privilege Ken Burch Dec 2015 #21

awake

(3,226 posts)
1. Just wondering were you around during the Vietnam War?
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:30 PM
Dec 2015

Did you know or have any friends who were Drafted?

awake

(3,226 posts)
5. Having lived through that time
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:40 PM
Dec 2015

I can say the divisiveness led some to become Reagan Decorates. I would hate to see this country return to the turmoil that the War created.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
10. I turned twenty in 73 the last year of the draft. I got lucky, I had a high lottery number.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:09 PM
Dec 2015

Nobody I knew wanted to go. I heard friends stories of older brothers coming back pretty messed up. PTSD.
I was a junior in high school when the Kent State shooting happened. I had never seen my Dad as angry as he was over those students being fired upon.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
17. Hillary Was Around... And She Is Just Itchin ... To Get Her Hands On The Wheel of Our
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:38 PM
Dec 2015

Military!!! Then she can really be a "leader..." Hillary!

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. I don't know anyone who thinks it was right.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:36 PM
Dec 2015

While history hasn't been completely truthful in the public sphere, the drafts effect lasted in stories and many horrors being revealed. Overall, if they know it or not, history taught the emotion of this one right.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
6. My father and uncle are Vietnam vets
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:42 PM
Dec 2015

And both lost friends in that war. Not sure how either feels about COs but neither would say the war was "good."

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. I had friends killed in that war, guys that I served with.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:52 PM
Dec 2015

One of them was a good friend. We both thought the war was a really, really, bad idea morally, and politically. I got out just before it really got hot in 1965. The others weren't so lucky. I joined the protests in 1966 when I started college. And, I saw a lot of other vets in the protests.

Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)
12. The world is not black and white.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:23 PM
Dec 2015

Setting that aside, are there still people that think Vietnam was the right thing to do? I haven't heard anyone say that in a very long time.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
18. Reagan said it was a "noble cause." Reagan also visited the
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:54 PM
Dec 2015

SS cemetery at Bitburg. Cheney had 'other priorities.' Romney protested against anti-war protesters but then conveniently had his 'Mormon mission' to . . . France ! When his # would have come up.

comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
13. Back in the 60s a lot of Democrats supported the Viet Nam War.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:21 PM
Dec 2015

That was one reason the 1968 Democratic convention that nominated pro war liberal Hubert Humphrey was such a shit show. The party was very divided and in no sense unanimously opposed to that war. I suspect there are still loyal Dems who were pro war in the 60s.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
19. Historical note: Humphrey broke with LBJ over the war after he was nominated but
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:59 PM
Dec 2015

when it was too late to make a difference. And there was the little matter of Tricky Dick and Kissinger's treason vis-a-vis Claire Cennault and Thieu.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
16. I'm not sure.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 11:25 PM
Dec 2015

There were too many Democrats that voted for the Iraq War with full knowledge of Vietnam. Polls or research must have shown otherwise?

dsc

(52,166 posts)
20. There might be some who lost people close to them in the war
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 01:12 AM
Dec 2015

oppose the war, but would have problems with those who didn't go to the war by means that weren't available to those who they lost. I know some who found Quayle unacceptable on that account.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
21. CO status was available to all who applied for it, though. It didn't require privilege
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 01:23 AM
Dec 2015

It had nothing in common with Dan Quayle having his daddy pull strings to get him into a full National Guard unit.

And taking CO status wasn't about "not going to the war". it was about making the statement of opposition to militarism.

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