I cannot believe what this woman just said about Sanders' supporters

[Samantha]

"Sanders' supporters are also Trump supporters." She was featured on Lawrence O'Donnell's show this evening. I had to look her up because I could not believe anyone could actually make a remark like this. So here she is:

https://www.facebook.com/carriesheffield/?ref=br_rs

Carrie Sheffield.

She also mentioned Sanders is a part of the fringe. When O'Donnell questioned her on this, she said, "Of course he is. He is a Socialist."

This woman is either incredibly dumb, very disingenuous or is desperate to drive people to her Facebook page (which is of course what I just did).

I am speechless. How low can these people go?

BUT

All of this was in the context of Sanders' seeking to siphon off some of Trump's supporters. I have always said since this race started I thought Sanders would attract a good number of Republicans. And now that this is a topic of political speculation on MSNBC no less, I have caught my breath and say to Trump supporters who also sympathize with the middle class losses as well as those of the poor these last few decades, come on over, the water is fine. Feel the Bern.

Sam

[arcane1]

1. I wonder what her DU name is.

[CharlotteVale]

2. I was just going to post the same thing!

[Samantha]

5. That is amazing

but there just might be some truth in this thought!

Sam

[Samantha]

3. You are too funny

But we all need to laugh more, don't we?

Sam

[Scuba]

12. I imaggied it was something, but i couldn't imaggie dwat.

[arcane1]

14. .

[Samantha]

19. I think I will just Ignore this

but thank you for posting on my thread.

Sam

[nc4bo]

23. o_o

I saw what you did there Scuba, oh yes I did!

[artislife]

26. *chortle

[Divernan]

51. I was just imaggie-ing AND thinking about that, as well!

I have it on good authority she just got picked up by a Ferrari driven by DU's own Very Rich, Incredibly Wealthy Guy, who is more important than any Bernie supporter because Very Rich, Incredibly Wealthy Guy drives said Ferrari to his many intimate dinners with nameless people who are Very High Up in the Democratic party. And as Very Rich, Incredibly Wealthy Guy has told us, he is part of the One Percent too also! It's just so humbling to be posting on the same blog as Very Rich, Incredibly Wealthy Guy!

Or is he a wanna-be One Percenter, posting from his mother's basement? Because why on earth would any Very Rich, Incredibly Wealthy Guy Who Drives A Ferrari spend time blogging with the likes of us!?!?!?

[Scuba]

52. Oh, that guy. I pity him as I heard his Ferrari leaked oil on the floor of his car elevator ...

... All that Italian marble ruined. Damned shame.

[hobbit709]

55. Look out. you will draw the wrath of the Clinton Erinye down upon you.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. beat me to it.

[beam me up scottie]

16. LMAO!

[Samantha]

20. Me too (n/t)

[beam me up scottie]

29. It's amazing how they all use the same memes.

Almost like it's a script.

[Samantha]

36. Your absolutely right, beam me up scottie

It is so noticeable it is appalling. It just goes to show how limited some of these people are that they cannot put words together to form complete thoughts to make a point. I guess that is just too hard ... let me copy off yours.

Hey, thanks for posting on my thread. (I read that somewhere and liked it)

Sam

[AgingAmerican]

57. Orders come down from above..

They all spout the same memes in unison, as is choreographed. Keystone kop choreography.

[JackInGreen]

35. First thought

No shit.

[tazkcmo]

38. Well played! n/t

[FarPoint]

39. Hahahaha..

You make me smile...

[cui bono]

50. I was going to say "or she's a DUer"!

.

[MisterP]

4. ee! the Berniebros and the Trumpettes! oh the racism and the sexism! *faints*

[Samantha]

6. Right on point, MisterP

Thank you for posting on my thread.

Sam

[MisterP]

10. this same Carrie Sheffield?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024275449

[Samantha]

28. I read the link and I believe you have scored a point

Sure sounds like the same level of stupidity. Advocates more education but not higher minimum wage. Aren't many who are trying to work their way through college having to take minimum wage jobs to help pay their tuition? Wouldn't a raise to a decent level help that effort a lot?

Perhaps when there is a cause and effect conversation going on, she can't make a connection....

Sam

[MisterP]

30. this is what happens when you've never had to work for a living, I guess

doubtless she'd agree with this dumpster fire about how spooning's not PC

[WillyT]

7. K & R !!!

[nc4bo]

8. Up next and introducting: The next meme o' the week! 1!!1

[Samantha]

9. Thank you, nc4bo

It is so nice to be on DU this evening and having a pleasant conversation for once. Everyone must be having a nice break from work and other stressors.

Sam

[nc4bo]

21. I hope you know that

I wasn't directing any angst against you Samantha.

Honestly, I think I've actually heard this one splattered around here and there over the past several days, from the usual shitstirrers.
I think someone actually tried to link Sanders with the RNC chair/GOP, That one didn't grow any legs despite the initial effort.

Hive centRal Command is like a queen bee giving marching orders to the zillion little worker bees.

[Samantha]

31. No offense taken, nc4bo

I am just enjoying this thread this evening, and I hope you are as well.

Happy New Year.

Sam

[nc4bo]

32. But of course! Happy New Year to you too Sam! nt

[arcane1]

17. Yep, they're trying to twist Bernie's valid point into a false equivalence

There is a vast number of fucked-over, disaffected people out there who are desperate enough to accept a lie (Trump), but who can be reached with the truth (Sanders). While many of them are also racist assholes, many more are simply uninformed or unaware.

The trick being played here is to take the worst Trump supporter and make them into every Sanders supporter.

[nc4bo]

25. Of course. It's what I always expect from them anymore.

Win at ALL costs................real dirtbag politicikin'.

[Samantha]

33. I know what you are saying

Sanders makes the point that many Republicans on issues agree with Democrats. They support Social Security, Medicare, a fair wage, unemployment benefits (you know the range) and they are adamantly against a continuation of the way things have been, and they want real change. In theory, Trump seems to offer Change by insulting people and demeaning programs/issues. The reality is though he does not promote a higher minimum wage or improving the lives of ordinary middle class/low income people. And that latter point is exactly what Sanders promotes. Sanders does so in a respectful way, while Trump campaigns on hate and divisiveness, which two words are not in Sanders' vocabulary.

Thank you for your contribution to this thread, arcane1.

Sam

[arcane1]

43. They have been TRICKED into thinking their interests are different from ours!

We are all being screwed over by the same people. I'm all for opening every eye that can be opened.

[one_voice]

11. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say..

this woman isn't on team Bernie or team Hillary. Not a Dem at all....and not caring how careless she sounds..

Sheffield has defended the Tea Party movement,[9] writing that, "While a few strident Tea Partiers are guilty of fanaticism, the overwhelming majority of these activists are motivated by a kernel of truth in their worries that federal spending as a share of the national economy has risen under President Obama (to the highest it has been since 1946) and would have escalated further under a Democratic Congress. History is replete with examples, from the former Soviet Union to East Germany, China, Cuba, North Korea, etc., that illustrate Tea Partiers' legitimate fears. When government encroaches on commercial liberties, the end result is a failed civil state. Economic and civil liberties go hand in hand."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Sheffield

This is her brother:

NewsBusters

In the summer of 2005, Media Research Center launched the NewsBusters, a website "dedicated to exposing & combating liberal media bias," in cooperation with Matthew Sheffield, a conservative blogger involved in the CBS Killian documents story. NewsBusters is styled as a rapid-response blog site that contains posts by MRC editors to selected stories in mass media.[22] Although the site is advertised chiefly as a conservative site, it frequently defends Neoconservatives as well.[23] Not only does the site highlight journalists it deems are liberally biased, but also non-journalists (writers, musicians, producers, scientists, etc.) who they perceive have liberal viewpoint.[24][25][26][27] In addition to conventional media outlets, NewsBusters has attacked Wikipedia over perceived liberal bias in its John Edwards discussion pages.[28] At the NewsBusters site, a semi-weekly mock newscast called NewsBusted parodies recent events. The NewsBusted programs are often uploaded to sites such as YouTube.[29]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Research_Center#NewsBusters

Reading her wiki page, I feel pretty safe out on my limb.

[Samantha]

13. I read your post and I thank you for your contribution to my thread

I think we are all pretty much where we want to be at this point in time so that works out well.

Happy New Year.

Sam

[underthematrix]

18. Bernie being dumped on unfairly by the

national media. They're creating a tweetable narrative about Bernie, which I imagine will only get worse.

[Samantha]

24. They will get as good as they give (or much more)

We have learned some hard lessons by the losses of the Oval Office in 2000 (stolen) and 2004 (purloined). The consequence of that was not lost on Barack Obama, whose amazing team (many of whom) now works with Bernie Sanders. I believe the one thing most of us have implanted on our brains is we have to stand up and act like Republicans beating our chests and protecting our candidate. Even the least* of us is ready to fight....

Sam

*meaning the smallest, the youngsters, as well as older warriors... thought that might need some clarification

[underthematrix]

65. President Obama's "amazing team" is working

with the Sanders' campaign? Bill Burton is running a superpac for HRC. Who are you talking about?

[Samantha]

68. It was much discussed before his formal announcement many from Obama's team were anxious to join

Sanders if he decided to enter the race. Here is one article in particular which names some of them, but I didn't have the time to read the others.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/bernie-sanders-2016-campaign-staff-power-players-118282

• Digital firm Revolution Messaging runs Sanders’ online fundraising and social media efforts — big for a candidate who’ll rely on small-dollar contributions and benefits from a strong social-media presence. Four members of the team worked on Barack Obama’s insurgent 2008 campaign — Scott Goodstein, who ran Obama’s social media efforts; Shauna Daly, who was deputy research director for the campaign; Arun Chaudhary, who ultimately became the first official White House videographer; and Walker Hamilton, the site architect for Obama’s campaign. Kenneth Pennington, who ran Sanders’ Senate social media platform, and Keegan Goudiss, a Revolution Messaging partner who has worked for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, will also work on the digital team.

Sam

[underthematrix]

69. that's interesting. Thank you

[Samantha]

70. I believe Goodstein is the one running online donation solicitations (among other things)

And from where I sit, he is a doing a bang-up job.

Sam

[Cassiopeia]

22. Why not?

I see Duers doing it ffs.

[pa28]

27. Marginalizing Bernie Sanders on Lawrence O'Donnell's show. How brave.

Next up: Bernie Sanders. Is he a harmless socialist kook or a dangerous actual Marxist? Our panel will discuss.

[Samantha]

34. Howard Dean was on the panel

and I was surprised what a good job he did defending Sanders. It is well known he supports Hillary Clinton, as he again said that this evening, but he didn't let the slurs stand.

Sam

[Doctor_J]

37. well, Hillary is trying to ciphon off Romney supporters, and availing herself of Willard's money

So what's the big deal?

[Samantha]

40. I simply thought it was appallingly stupid

while your point is just not that unimaginable. In other words, would anyone really give this woman much credence?

There was a day when shows like this featured people who made conversations designed to provoke thought. This certainly failed that mark, but then I guess those days are long gone.

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

[RandySF]

41. Well

Bernie did say he wants to win over Trump supporters. And, judging by what I see on DU, both groups share a penchant for conspiracy theories.

[beam me up scottie]

42. LOL! WHOOOOOOOOOSH!

[AgingAmerican]

58. So by your logic

Sanders supporters support Trump too?

And you whine about, 'conspiracy theories'?

[Bluenorthwest]

71. Want a link to Hillary plying her wares to Rick Warren's Megachurch?

How about a link to Obama going on and on about 'reaching out' to bigots and his own many, many events pandering to anti gay voters employing some really awful anti gay hate preachers?

This routine you folks are doing, when seen in the historic reality of our candidates doing low level pandering to bigots to get their votes starts looking really fucked up. Is it different because they were anti gay bigots? Different because that was all 'Christian' and Bernie is not a Holy Pants Baptist type weeping along with Rick Warren?

You tell me. I challenge you to do so. Explain it.

[Samantha]

44. Hmmm, does anyone see a reply 41 or 42

Why should a thread jump from reply 40 to 43? Anyone know?

Sam

[1StrongBlackMan]

54. Because you have the DUers that posted 41 & 42 on ignore? ...

That's just a guess since I don't know how the ignore feature works.

[PowerToThePeople]

45. Conservative pundit says stupid shit.

colour me surprised.

[Samantha]

46. I think she was going for provocative but came up

empty.

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

[world wide wally]

47. He is a socialist but he's not a fascist like Trump.

Was that her point?

[Samantha]

48. He is a Democratic Socialist (at least he was for a long time)

The Socialists in Vermont distance themselves from him (well, they couldn't decide whether or not to endorse him because there are differences between the types of socialists....) Because there was no such label available in the House or Senate for such a classified person, he was labeled an Independent. The Independent caucused with the Democrats.

Bernie says he has always supported Democratic values but he goes a little farther to include the priority that government should work for all of the people, just not exclusively for the corporations and the rich.

Personally, I do not care what he calls himself; I support his ideas and believe in his integrity and that is all that concerns me. I have seen too many people label themselves Democrats over the years who turned out to be Trojan Horses.

I don't know what her point was but the above represents my understanding of things.....

Thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

[world wide wally]

49. I think he is kind of like me. A capitalist who knows we NEED a good dose of socialism

[AgingAmerican]

59. Heavily regulated Capitalism with a strong focus on the commons

[Samantha]

64. Sounds about right to me

Thank you for posting on my thread.

Sam

[fredamae]

53. Bernie isn't trying to appeal

to a "party"-he Is, imo-identifying with People who, like everyone else are Angry about low-wages, lack of quality affordable health care, toxic environmental spills ruining land and water with impunity by big corp, who lost UI Benefits for Bi-Partisan Austerity budgets, schools closed, Scott Walker, Gov Snyder, Chris Christie, LePage, Rick Scott, Bevin , Gov Brownback totally bankrupting their home states...People who call themselves
Trump Supporters/GOP whose jobs are now located overseas and they're being blamed by the oligarchs for being lazy and so on and on and on. Income Inequality has struck each and everyone of us and it Is Not About Party Affiliation.

Just because we don't all subscribe to the same opinions about some things-just because we identify differently re: party affiliation doesn't mean we can't come together for a candidate who IS blazing the trail for Us to reclaim Our seats at the "People's Government" table-so we can All get back to doing whatever it is that improves quality of life for ourselves, family and friends.
We, the People have a Justice System to Reform, forests to plant, bridges to repair, schools to build, new energy resources to discover and develop, a government and society to heal....or simply put..We, the People have Eggs to Lay and Dirt to Scratch!

All, jmvho - of course.

[Samantha]

66. This is a very thoughtful post

I think you are exactly on point. Sorry for the delay in responding.

And thanks for posting on my thread.

Sam

[AgingAmerican]

56. The hate coming from some people is rooted in ignorance

...and stupid.

[NCTraveler]

60. Or she reads the news.

"This woman is either incredibly dumb, very disingenuous or is desperate to drive people to her Facebook page (which is of course what I just did)."

[Bluenorthwest]

72. So you know who you are endorsing here, a wee quote from Carrie:

"While a few strident Tea Partiers are guilty of fanaticism, the overwhelming majority of these activists are motivated by a kernel of truth in their worries that federal spending as a share of the national economy has risen under President Obama (to the highest it has been since 1946) and would have escalated further under a Democratic Congress. History is replete with examples, from the former Soviet Union to East Germany, China, Cuba, North Korea, etc., that illustrate Tea Partiers' legitimate fears. When government encroaches on commercial liberties, the end result is a failed civil state. Economic and civil liberties go hand in hand."

So, full tilt right wing operative but it's nice you have made a new friend!

[NCTraveler]

73. I'm ok with your assumption.

I said no such thing but that's not going to stop you. Happy New Year.

[Vinca]

61. Gee . . . I wonder who she supports.

But, speaking of dumb, I accidently landed on the Lou Dobbs show while channel surfing and that idiot "draw Mohammed contest" woman was on. She makes this Sheffield person sound like Albert Einstein. Now if I, a Bernie supporter, also supported Trump, I would have remained glued to the Lou Dobbs show and that foolish woman.

[Doctor_J]

62. She's a teabagger, and yet sounds just like the Hillarians

what a coincidence!

[LWolf]

63. Like I would ever support Trump.

Carrie Sheffield is ignorant, and maybe ignorant on purpose.

[Samantha]

67. I found this comment personally offensive

It is just so typical how commentators twist words to make one situation appear to be entirely another. I assume this comment was issued due to the publicity given to Sanders' courting Trump supporters. He typically gets about 25 percent of the Republican vote in Vermont when he runs, and he has said on many, many issues Democrats and Republicans agree on many things: Social Security, Medicare, Medical care for veterans, disability benefits, unemployment benefits (hey, many of these are somewhat "socialist" aren't they?)