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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 11:22 PM Dec 2015

I get now why this is so familiar: supporting O'Malley is like being a Linux user

That's why my sighs on reading GD-P seem to come so naturally: it's the exact same feeling I get when I listen to Windows and Mac fans argue with each other. And "wait until Iowa" is just like how "2016 will finally be the year of the Linux desktop". Sigh.

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I get now why this is so familiar: supporting O'Malley is like being a Linux user (Original Post) Recursion Dec 2015 OP
And same as supporting Wes Clark elleng Dec 2015 #1
Kick and rec emulatorloo Dec 2015 #2
I really admire him rbrnmw Dec 2015 #3
Well this campaign is mainly about getting his face out there anigbrowl Dec 2015 #11
LOL. lovemydog Dec 2015 #4
agree mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #7
but when he does 'force,' as he did in the last 'debate,' elleng Dec 2015 #12
one thing that o malley is doing right mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #24
Good Analogy. I also see it as with the case of bernie=linux JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #5
actually he's starting to seem like a viable second choice to me mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #6
Sanders is StartIsBack Babel_17 Dec 2015 #8
Linux will never have a standard place on the desktop. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #9
He's more like BeOS Paulie Dec 2015 #10
As a GNU/Linux user PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #15
You can still buy OS/2 with support Paulie Dec 2015 #22
Hillary and Bernie kind of sucked all the air out of the primary. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #13
I'm sure O'Malley will NOT run for the Senate in this cycle. Jim Lane Dec 2015 #14
Thanks for the info. I don't follow MD politics closely. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #17
O'Malley was never more miserable than when he was on the Baltimore City Council Recursion Dec 2015 #23
Plus O'Malley is clearly an executive, not a legislator. He is clearly about results. FSogol Dec 2015 #18
2000 was my year of the Linux desktop PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #16
I've been on either Linux or BSD pretty much exclusively since 2000, too Recursion Dec 2015 #21
K&R. Now if only O'Malley would develop a decent office suite... DanTex Dec 2015 #19
Really? I use LibreOffice even when I'm stuck on Windows Recursion Dec 2015 #20
I find that MSOffice basically just works better. DanTex Dec 2015 #26
Neat analogy. Now tell me what OS X is based on. Hint: ends with "BSD". DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #25
"NeXTSTEP" doesn't end in "BSD" though. Neither does "Mach" Recursion Dec 2015 #27
 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
11. Well this campaign is mainly about getting his face out there
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:42 AM
Dec 2015

Lots of Presidents failed on their first attempt at running for that office - it takes years to build a national profile, and O'Malley is not well known outside the northeast. He might get a cabinet post in the next Democratic administration, and meantime he can leverage his increased public profile into for a future run. I like his policies OK but not him at present, I find him too stiff and scripted. However I think that's inexperience and nerves in his first go at a national campaign so I'm sure he'll improve over time.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
4. LOL.
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 11:36 PM
Dec 2015

I also see it on gaming forums: pc versus xbox versus playstation.

I'm not saying all three democratic candidates are the same. They do differ somewhat on policy. But I am saying that O'Malley should get a lot more attention because he is concretely laying out outstanding policies. And that I'm always pretty incredulous by how much a lot of people really seem to enjoy fighting or backing themselves into crazy corners on the internet.

mgmaggiemg

(869 posts)
7. agree
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:03 AM
Dec 2015

I've been watching him but haven't been saying anything...because he's not very forceful...but looking like a viable second choice

elleng

(131,067 posts)
12. but when he does 'force,' as he did in the last 'debate,'
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:57 AM
Dec 2015

he's chastised.

Among his showings of force is that he's out, on the streets of Iowa and New Hampshire, constantly, meeting voters.

Example: O'Malley attracts intimate crowds amid snowstorm.

WEBSTER CITY, Ia. — A handful of Iowans who drove through blowing snow to see Martin O'Malley got an intimate chance to talk over coffee about issues ranging from climate change to ISIS.

The former Maryland governor and Democratic presidential hopeful was the first candidate from either party to return to Iowa following the Christmas holiday, speaking to more than 100 people Sunday at the Des Moines Social Club about immigration and foreign policy. The crowds were smaller at Monday morning stops amid a winter storm that was expected to pile at least 8 inches of snow in swaths of the state.

O'Malley sat in the middle of five potential caucusgoers inside the 2nd Street Emporium in Webster City for what felt more like a dinner table conversation than a campaign event. He explained the management style he embraced as Baltimore's mayor and as a governor, and at one point asked the campaign's state director, Jake Oeth, to get his iPad from their vehicle so he could show a graphic around the table..'>>>

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/caucus/2015/12/28/omalley-attracts-intimate-crowds-amid-snowstorm/77981702/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=

mgmaggiemg

(869 posts)
24. one thing that o malley is doing right
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 01:29 PM
Dec 2015

attracting people who don't post like the tea party of the left.... he may end up being the runner up instead of Bernie as Bernie is attracting supporters who post like Trump supporters....I mean I don't care....it's a turn off to majority of voters who turn to HRC or O'malley simply because Bernie's campaign is annoying ....not Bernie himself mind you.....

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
5. Good Analogy. I also see it as with the case of bernie=linux
Mon Dec 28, 2015, 11:39 PM
Dec 2015

And Hillary = Windows. Donald = Apple.

Both would much rather ignore that Bernie exists as well.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
8. Sanders is StartIsBack
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:05 AM
Dec 2015

Clears away the nonsense so as to expose a usable framework. He puts control of the system back in the hands of the people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Start_menu_replacements_for_Windows_8

Lol, I use it, but many Classic Shell is a better comparison, as it's free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Shell

http://www.classicshell.net/

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
9. Linux will never have a standard place on the desktop.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 12:11 AM
Dec 2015

Especially since Windows 10 is the best desktop operating system I've ever encountered. Ease of use will translate to widespread adoption relatively quickly when compared to prior versions of Windows.

You can take heart that OSX is a fully Posix compliant kernel with roots in the BSD world, though much of the kernel had to be written from the ground up by Apple in order to hold compliance with Apple drivers.

That said, I like Linux and use it as a desktop for certain applications, though that is pure geekery on my part.

I will always put Windows in front of my 76 year old mother, though I would give her a Mac if I though my brother was capable of supporting it.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
15. As a GNU/Linux user
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:30 AM
Dec 2015

I would say Sanders is the people's candidate, thus GNU/Linux
Hillary is the rich person's OS, thus OSX
O'Malley is a little more working class but still establishment, thus Windows.

All the candidates are still currently supported, so none would be similar to BeOS or OS/2.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
13. Hillary and Bernie kind of sucked all the air out of the primary.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 01:02 AM
Dec 2015

I hope he gets a decent appointment by the next Democratic president. He'll need to do something to stay relevant if HRC or Bernie occupies the Whitehouse for 8 years.

I wonder if he'll try for a Senate run in MD. Barbara Mikulski is supposed to retire. He could build a national presence that way.

I wish he wouldn't make such an enemy of gun rights supporters, but no one is perfect.
 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
14. I'm sure O'Malley will NOT run for the Senate in this cycle.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:26 AM
Dec 2015

It's not completely accurate to say that "Barbara Mikulski is supposed to retire," as if there were doubt about. She's definitely announced she's not running for re-election.

As soon as she made that announcement, O'Malley, who worked for Mikulski in her first Senate campaign and then in her Senate office, was an obvious prospect to succeed her. There were definitely some people who thought he should abandon his long-shot Presidential campaign and run for the Senate. O'Malley disagreed. He publicly renounced any run for Mikulski's seat. Other people have gotten into the race, and I really doubt that O'Malley would cross them up by changing his mind now.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
23. O'Malley was never more miserable than when he was on the Baltimore City Council
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:47 AM
Dec 2015

The legislative branch is not for him.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
16. 2000 was my year of the Linux desktop
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 04:41 AM
Dec 2015

Every year since has been great! (in regards to my computing experience)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. I've been on either Linux or BSD pretty much exclusively since 2000, too
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:06 AM
Dec 2015

Don't miss proprietary operating systems one bit...

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
19. K&R. Now if only O'Malley would develop a decent office suite...
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:02 AM
Dec 2015

Linux user also, but I use MS for Word, Excel, PPoint. That's the one area where open source stuff still hasn't caught up. And I have no idea why.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
20. Really? I use LibreOffice even when I'm stuck on Windows
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:05 AM
Dec 2015

I find it a much more capable office suite, personally. But then I also really love LaTeX.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
26. I find that MSOffice basically just works better.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 08:11 PM
Dec 2015

Though I'll admit, I haven't really tried doing much with Libre, except for just creating spreadsheets for internal use, but even then I save them in excel format in case some non-linux person needs to see it. The thing is, MSOffice is the business standard, which means that to use Libre collaboratively you basically have to translate back and forth, and things get lost in translation.

LaTeX is great. Anything with equations, there's nothing remotely close.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
27. "NeXTSTEP" doesn't end in "BSD" though. Neither does "Mach"
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:41 PM
Dec 2015

Its only relationship to BSD is that the basic POSIX tools were borrowed from that implementation.

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