Just A Reminder

[Alfresco]

Latest HuffPost Poll Chart
It includes the latest Ipsos/Reuters, Rasmussen and CNN polls.

[seabeyond]

1. And still.... Clinton is kicking ass. !!! Nt.

[darkangel218]

2. Look where Hillary started in March: 60+%

And now she's at 57%. Less than what she started with! Compared with Bernie, who was 4% and is now 29.5%

Umm.. Yah, Hillary sure is "gaining" in polls

[draa]

4. The only polls that matter right now are the primary polls.

These polls we're seeing mean nothing. The general election is still almost 11 months away so polls like this serve no purpose at all but to pump up a bunch of worried people.

[Alfresco]

5. Look a little closer.

2016 Democratic Primary Poll

[draa]

8. I don't need to look, that doesn't matter.

Watch the polls for Iowa and New Hampshire. After those watch the polls for Nevada and South Carolina. Then comes the 14 states on March 1, 2016. Those are what matter this close to Iowa.

It's useless to watch polls like this. Obama was down to Clinton as well and the polls your quoting changed when he began to win primaries. If Bernie wins some early states that poll you posted will change. Watch for that instead.

[Alfresco]

9. Ok, here's Iowa

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-primary

[draa]

12. No it's not.

The last polling we've seen has Iowa too close to call. Even her supporters have been posting those polls. What you're doing is cherry picking polling averages and using it as proof of something. It doesn't prove anything and after 3 decades of elections I can't remember many that proved accurate in the end. eom

Get back with me after Iowa and we'll see how you're poll fared. I'll bookmark this thread so we can talk afterward. eom

[Alfresco]

14. Follow the link and learn.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-primary
Here is the link again. Check it out.

This data is from 58 polls from 21 pollsters
Updated 4 days ago

[BlueMTexpat]

33. Umm ... OK

but if you doubt the Huffington composite, please take a look at RCP. All polls through 21 December are taken into account.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_democratic_presidential_caucus-3195.html

[Alfresco]

6. Hillary is Ascending, Bernie is Descending. LOL

[darkangel218]

15. Hillary is polling now LESS than she started with in March

While Bernie GAINED 25%!! So OVERALL Hillary is descending, while Bernie keeps going up!!

[Alfresco]

16. LOL...

[darkangel218]

20. Yup! Thats what I say too! LOL!!

Go Bernie!!!!

[Alfresco]

21. She who laughs last, laughs longest. Hillary!

[darkangel218]

22. I guess you won't be doing a lot of laughing then!

And neither will she!

[Alfresco]

23. PredictWise 2016 President – Democratic Nomination (Winner) has Hillary at 92%

The odds are very much in favor of Team Hillary having the last laugh.


http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-democratic-nomination/

[darkangel218]

30. Lololol!

[onecaliberal]

3. Yup, all the polls that predicted president mitt Romney.

[Iliyah]

7. PP didn't and was spot on, which I respect more so than any others

Many of the national polls I reviewed had Pres O winning.

[lunamagica]

34. You are wrong here. The polls favored Obama. And Rmney was the one who say

The polls didn't mater

That's why they got their "uneskewed polls" guy. Remember?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/09/24/dean_chambers_meet_the_guy_who_s_re_weighting_polls_to_show_romney_way_ahead_of_obama.html

Ruby Cramer introduces us to Dean Chambers, whose site Unskewed Polls "has re-weighted national polling data from organizations like Gallup, ARG, and the three networks, to fit the Rasmussen Reports partisan trends.

What does that mean? At RealClearPolitics, which averages all national polls, Barack Obama is leading Mitt Romney by 3.7 points. At UnskewedPolls, Romney leads Obama by 7.8 points. If that held up, it would be the largest victory for any presidential candidate since George H.W. Bush thrashed Michael Dukakis.

http://americablog.com/2012/11/romney-shellshocked-fell-for-unskewed-polls-and-foxs-unskewed-news.html

So it seems that Mitt Romney, the “numbers” candidate, and his staff, are “shellshocked” about the election results because they believed all the Fox News types who kept saying the polls were “skewed” against Republicans (and that if you “unskewed” the polls, Romney was really winning nationwide by 11 points).

Even worse, Romney decided to use a pollster who skewed more to the right than all the normal pollster, so they actually thought they were winning in the days leading up to the election, and that’s why they wasted time and money in places like Pennsylvania.

From CBS News:

As a result, they believed the public/media polls were skewed – they thought those polls oversampled Democrats and didn’t reflect Republican enthusiasm. They based their own internal polls on turnout levels more favorable to Romney. That was a grave miscalculation, as they would see on election night.

Those assumptions drove their campaign strategy: their internal polling showed them leading in key states, so they decided to make a play for a broad victory: go to places like Pennsylvania while also playing it safe in the last two weeks.

Those assessments were wrong.

http://williamspaniel.com/2012/11/06/unskewed-polls-guy-is-a-genius/

Unskewed Polls Guy Is a Genius
Posted on November 6, 2012 | 1 Comment

Within a few hours (hopefully), we will know who won Ohio, and this election season will mercifully come to a close. All of the sophisticated forecasters agree: Obama is going to win Ohio and therefore the White House. (See Nate Silver and Drew Linzer.)

However, there is one unsophisticated forecaster who is convinced everyone has it wrong. His name is Unskewed Polls Guy. He is convinced that Romney is going to win. Why? Well, Unskewed Polls Guy’s methodology is that we should take all the state polls and arbitrarily add 5% or so to Romney’s total. Or something. Why? Well…uhh…the polls are skewed toward Obama. Or something. Hence, Unskewed Poll Guy unskews the polls by throwing votes Romney’s way. Or something.

http://gawker.com/5955480/dont-listen-to-nate-silvers-gay-polls-says-superstar-conservative-poster

Today, my fellow Americans, you get to choose between two superstar election pollsters. In one corner, we have Dean Chambers, the creator of the tin foil hat UnSkewed Polls and the laughing stock of the political media. In the other corner we have defending champion Nate Silver, the creator of the polling blog 538, which correctly predicted the popular vote split in the 2008 presidential election and was only four votes off of correctly predicting Barack Obama's number in the electoral college.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. "In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place." Mahatma Gandhi

[Alfresco]

11. " An ounce of practice is worth more than tons of preaching." Mahatma Gandhi

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. Indeed. Which is why I won't be voting for Hillary.

[Alfresco]

17. You sure you won't reconsider?

[Karma13612]

18. not until the general. eom

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. No. I'm convinced.

See IWR vote for one reference.

[Jackilope]

24. Interesting to compare 2008 timeline graph ...

Can hardly wait to see the lines cross for Sanders like Obama's did in 2008!

[Alfresco]

25. I'm sure you have heard it before, Bernie is no Obama by any stretch of the imagination.

[Motown_Johnny]

27. That is your opinion. Many of us like him even more.

[Cali_Democrat]

32. Most Democrats like Obama more than Bernie. nt

[Jackilope]

36. Stats?

Personally, I have some huge concerns over things like Obama's offering social security as a compromise to GOP, FISA, TPP......

[Jackilope]

29. Ah, but just a reminder that 2008 seemed pro Clinton at this same time.

I am sure Bill will be on his best behavior and not tick off SC this time around and sure that she has learned some lessons from 2008. She is, however, still a Wall St. darling and it is rather sad that people say that Bernie is pulling her to the left. We all know she is right-center and will return there.

That the 1% is okay with her is why I believe those lines will cross. That and now in social media, people are hash tagging "Not my abeula" or creating new Hillary logos after the Kwanza H logo and calling out pandering isn't good for the ol' poll lines. People can sense if someone is genuine and about their issues or all about show.

Unlike Obama, Sanders has worn his comfortable shoes and has marched and advocated for labor ... so yes, Sanders is no Obama .... He might just be better.

[darkangel218]

31. +1 million!!!

[Motown_Johnny]

26. That national polls are meaningless right now? Most of us remember that.

Thanks though. Judging from the responses to your OP it does seem as if some need to be reminded.

[Alfresco]

28. You are very welcome. A reminder was my intent.

[Cal33]

35. Non-stop MSM propaganda nonsense.

[NurseJackie]

37. Thank you!