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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:28 PM Dec 2015

So here's what really happened.

Josh Uretsky was working for Hillary the whole time. He, DWS, and some collaborators at NGP VAN had set the system up so that he could access both campaigns' data, which he would do regularly in order to transfer Bernie's data over to the Hillary team.

What broke on that fateful day was not the firewall, but the hack that they had put in in order to keep all of Uretsky's activities out of the logs, in case of an audit. So for a few hours, Uretsky's accessing both sets of data made it into the logs, and some employees at NGP VAN noticed this.

DWS was notified, and which point she decided that the best defense is a good offense. Uretsky would take the fall, and she would try to paint Bernie as a data thief.

Meanwhile, over at Clinton HQ, panic is everywhere. Hillary didn't let her top advisors know the details of the plot, but they all know that something was crooked, and an investigation was out of the question. One of her aides took it upon himself to start planting stories in the media designed to make Bernie's campaign look bad.

The "Uretsky is a plant" story is part of this disinformation campaign. Problem is, the story was actually true, even though the Clinton aide who planted it didn't know that! He though it would make the Bernie campaign look like conspiracy nuts, but he inadvertently leaked the truth.

Needless to say, Clinton is planning on dropping out of the race on Monday. Sources say she was close to throwing in the towel even without this, because after she saw the last few facebook polls, her team knew there was no hope left.

So that's the story. She might have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for those meddling internet posters!

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So here's what really happened. (Original Post) DanTex Dec 2015 OP
*snort* ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #1
So you really believe that? Buzz cook Dec 2015 #2
Of course not. DanTex Dec 2015 #4
While Sarcastic, Likely As Not It Is NOT Far from The TRUTH! CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #8
You forgot the gwheezie Dec 2015 #12
The mandatory . .. reACTIONary Dec 2015 #19
I'll even throw in a couple of monuments. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #5
Yep..that's what HAPPENED! Sancho Dec 2015 #3
and some of these rbrnmw Dec 2015 #10
Here's the parody conversation from Iowa Starting Line BlueCheese Dec 2015 #6
Clearly you were a fly on that wall. Gman Dec 2015 #23
I have my head in my hands reading this stuff at this point. Everyone is SKEWERING the Sanders Number23 Dec 2015 #29
Your OP is as accurate as the original story making the false claim that the Sanders's Luminous Animal Dec 2015 #7
it is a hamhanded attempt alrighty stupidicus Dec 2015 #9
Years ago I made a totally off the wall statement gwheezie Dec 2015 #11
Psssst. The Sanders campaign is not claiming that anyone was a plant. Vattel Dec 2015 #13
Pssst, tell that to about half the Sanders supporters on this site pushing this CT woo! MohRokTah Dec 2015 #15
I love it when failing campaigns implode. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #14
That's obvious by who you support. Loudestlib Dec 2015 #17
Then stay tuned to this station catnhatnh Dec 2015 #24
Failing campaign? CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #27
Yes, failing campaign. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #31
You truly make me smile... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #33
It's a rare thing to see my 100 ROFLs post MohRokTah Dec 2015 #34
Shouldn't that be... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #35
Only if you are... MohRokTah Dec 2015 #36
Then maybe you need some... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #37
Clnton doesn't implode, usuallly. She just fizzles out, like in 2008. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #41
She Should drop out blondie58 Dec 2015 #16
And everyone loves and want Sanders. That is why he can't get close to Clinton in our primary. seabeyond Dec 2015 #18
What do you mean that Sanders "can't get close to Clinton in our primary"? CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #38
This is what I hear. Sound on, :25. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #20
Dan being Dan. nt Logical Dec 2015 #21
Good one Gman Dec 2015 #22
Jury results zappaman Dec 2015 #25
Justice is served. SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #26
the alerter needs to look in the mirror lickity split Cha Dec 2015 #40
I know who is really behind it all, the signs are all there. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #28
You tease, but... joshcryer Dec 2015 #30
I know this is kind of serious, but that image just made me cry with laughter. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #32
That would be a big surprise to BS.. Josh Uretsky has been a friend of his for years. Cha Dec 2015 #39
Chris Stevens in Benghazi knew ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #42
Rofl! Well Done, DT! Panic Panic Panic! Cha Dec 2015 #43

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
4. Of course not.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:39 PM
Dec 2015

It was sarcasm. But given some the stuff I've seen on this topic, I don't blame you for thinking this was an honest post.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
8. While Sarcastic, Likely As Not It Is NOT Far from The TRUTH!
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:51 PM
Dec 2015

Let's get that mf'ing INVESTIGATION underway and see wtf was REALLY going on over at HilBill HQ! Emails, phone logs, depos... the whole schlmeal!

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
6. Here's the parody conversation from Iowa Starting Line
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:45 PM
Dec 2015
http://iowastartingline.com/2015/12/26/deconstructing-the-latest-dnc-data-conspiracy-theory/

If so, that’s the most convoluted plot of all time. Why put a mole in the Sanders campaign for a scheme that would get him fired? Why not have him just pass along data he has easy access to? Or undermine their operation by doing a crappy job with their lists and data modeling? (Again, none of this would actually happen because people aren’t this evil or underhanded in real life.)

And why would anyone sign up for that? How would that conversation even go down? Like this?

Whitaker: “Okay Josh, the secret Clinton cabal has an important mission for you to carry out. Are you ready?”

Uretsky: “Anything for the cause. What should I do?”

Whitaker: “We want you to work undercover for the Sanders campaign as their data director. Act like everything’s normal for months and take no improper actions. Then, in December, we’ll direct the VAN to momentarily drop its firewall, during which time you’ll access lots of Clinton campaign data and leave a clear trail as you do it.”

Uretsky: “But wait, if I’m undercover for Clinton, why would I need to break into her data?”

Whitaker: “Because we’re actually going to use this incident to expose you, our mole in the enemy’s operation, and get you fired in order to briefly embarrass the Sanders campaign and get their VAN access turned off for like a day or two.”

Uretsky: “If I’m their national data director secretly working for Clinton, couldn’t I just screw up their VAN operations myself?”

Whitaker: “Look, Josh, you’re thinking too hard about this. Don’t question the plan.”

Uretsky: “And wouldn’t this irreparably destroy my professional reputation for all time?”

Whitaker: “Don’t worry, the Clinton Illuminati will provide for you.”

Uretsky: “Alright, I’m down.”

Number23

(24,544 posts)
29. I have my head in my hands reading this stuff at this point. Everyone is SKEWERING the Sanders
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:57 PM
Dec 2015

campaign over this. This whole thing is so monumentally embarrassing and amateurish.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
7. Your OP is as accurate as the original story making the false claim that the Sanders's
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 08:50 PM
Dec 2015

campaign said Josh was a plant.

The Sanders's campaign said no such thing. That conspiracy theory originated with the author of the article.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
9. it is a hamhanded attempt alrighty
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 09:01 PM
Dec 2015

this is just another way they are like their rightwing cousins. Whatever happened to those data theft charges?

Long after the lie is exposed it will retain a vestige of truth in their minds because of what their unthinking acceptance of that lie says about them.

Denial 101: It's all about ego preservation

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
11. Years ago I made a totally off the wall statement
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 09:18 PM
Dec 2015

In one of the AOL chatrooms about Obama and Hillary and thought for sure anyone with 1/2 a brain would know it was sarcasm and then next thing I know Ron Paul was making the same claim. Go figure.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
13. Psssst. The Sanders campaign is not claiming that anyone was a plant.
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 09:32 PM
Dec 2015

Maybe you should try defending Hillary's support for the invasion of Iraq. Then again, making up shit about Sanders is probably more effective.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
27. Failing campaign?
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:33 PM
Dec 2015

Sanders is within 5 points in Iowa.

He's drawing 2,000 to his town halls. Clinton struggles to get 200-300 to her campaign town halls.

Your middle-school-like mocking, hubris and condescension have been duly noted.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
33. You truly make me smile...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 12:35 AM
Dec 2015

Obviously you worked very hard on your rofl art project

Good job!

Such straight rows!


 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
34. It's a rare thing to see my 100 ROFLs post
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 12:40 AM
Dec 2015

Concepts must rise to an incredibly high degree of hilarity to warrant such a thing.

blondie58

(2,570 posts)
16. She Should drop out
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 09:37 PM
Dec 2015

People didn't like her or Trust her in '08 and it hasn't changed.
She Should take her Multimillions and go Enjoy her granddaughter.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
38. What do you mean that Sanders "can't get close to Clinton in our primary"?
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 03:15 AM
Dec 2015

He was standing right next to her during the debate.

I'll be here all week, folks.

Tip your waitress. Try the pasta.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
25. Jury results
Sat Dec 26, 2015, 11:18 PM
Dec 2015

Someone had a sad...

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joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
30. You tease, but...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 12:07 AM
Dec 2015

...I really do think it was House of Cards level crap, with the staffers seeing an opportunity and hoping to be rewarded for it.

But it turned into an episode of VEEP.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
32. I know this is kind of serious, but that image just made me cry with laughter.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 12:16 AM
Dec 2015

Oh dear, I think you are right! I really just hope whoever is leaking like mad puts a sock in it soon--this really doesn't do any candidate any good.

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