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KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 11:20 AM Dec 2015

Historical question about primary calendar: why does the

California primary come so late in the calendar that its results don't usually affect the outcome?

Who sets the schedule?

Although I am a Sanders supporter, I think Hillary would defeat him in California, were its primary first. But I think our state deserves more say-so in the party's nominee.

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Historical question about primary calendar: why does the (Original Post) KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 OP
The California legislature sets the date. tammywammy Dec 2015 #1
California LWolf Dec 2015 #2
I don't get it either. CrispyQ Dec 2015 #3
No. It would be a disaster yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #4
But what you have now is a great long torturous mess with Karma13612 Dec 2015 #6
The nation should be divided into 6 electoral districts. . .  Journeyman Dec 2015 #5
I've thought something like that, too. Maybe let states with highest dem voter turnout HereSince1628 Dec 2015 #7
Journeyman: SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #9
So you want six Super Tuesday's... brooklynite Dec 2015 #8
Hunh? Is your question intended for someone else KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #10

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
2. California
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 12:26 PM
Dec 2015

affects the outcome no matter where it's placed, with the most delegates.

I am happy to see CA late; it means that my late primary, from a much smaller state, might mean something.

Frankly, it's not very motivating to have a primary AFTER the nomination has been determined.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
3. I don't get it either.
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 12:28 PM
Dec 2015

Why don't we have a national primary election that is held on the same day for all states? Wouldn't that be more fair?

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. No. It would be a disaster
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 12:36 PM
Dec 2015

The smaller known candidates with little money wouldn't stand a chance. It would be the worst decision in history. Unless you want the big money candidates to win.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
6. But what you have now is a great long torturous mess with
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 01:50 PM
Dec 2015

States near the end feeling disenfranchised and toothless. Having the primaries all at once means there is a sense of "oh well, candidate X is so far ahead, I might as well vote for that them".

I think our current system is not working.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
5. The nation should be divided into 6 electoral districts. . . 
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 01:44 PM
Dec 2015

and which district should vote first would rotate among them, so every 24 years each of us would have an opportunity to vote first for President.

All states in an electoral district would have their primaries on the same day. This way, campaigns would focus on a select geographic region - costs would be lower, as there wouldn't be as much travel required, and the media buys would be more focused as well, since neighboring states would be addressed at the same time.

There'd be an added benefit as well, as the citizens of each district could expect (indeed, demand) that each politician address the regional issues of their concern as well as the national issues, thereby denying the candidates the opportunity to hide behind national platitudes instead of answering specific questions important to a select electorate.

With each primary set about 3 weeks apart, the selection process could be concluded inside 4 to 5 months -- plenty of time for late bloomers to arise, plenty of time for scoundrels to be exposed.

Meh. It'll probably never happen. Too many vested interests with too much at stake in the present, crippled system.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. I've thought something like that, too. Maybe let states with highest dem voter turnout
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 01:55 PM
Dec 2015

go first so there is a reward/incentive for GOTV. I really don't have a problem with some small states being early as that helps campaigns work on their organizations, and also have a few glitches without it killing their chances. Losing California right off the get-go would be tough.

Maybe have the 6 districts constructed from non-contiguous states to cut down on pandering to regional interests.

Maybe even subdivide big population states so that places like California, Texas, New York get not only some chance to influence early results, but to also respond to issues that arise between the beginning and the end of the campaign season.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
9. Journeyman:
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 02:51 PM
Dec 2015

I have advocated this for years, usually with 10 districts and 2 weeks between elections.
Why should Iowa (corn), New Hampshire (thinks it is part of Canada), and my state of South Carolina (thinks it is still in the Confederacy) get to effectively choose the nominees each cycle?
Doing away with gerrymandered districts and setting up a rational primary system would be great and positive steps forward for American democracy.

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
8. So you want six Super Tuesday's...
Fri Dec 25, 2015, 01:55 PM
Dec 2015

...which would also limit retail campaigning and give the edge to nationally known candidates with money.

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