Spox: ‘Hell no,’ Clinton won’t apologize to Trump for ISIS remark

[MrWendel]

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/spox-hell-no-clinton-wont-apologize-trump-isis-remark

A spokesman for Hillary Clinton says “hell, no,” the candidate won’t apologize to Donald Trump for calling him “ISIS’ best recruiter.”

“Hillary Clinton will not be apologizing to Donald Trump for correctly pointing out how his hateful rhetoric only helps ISIS recruit more terrorists,” said spokesman Brian Fallon in a statement.

In Saturday night’s Democratic debate, Clinton suggested that ISIS is “showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.”

Politifact rated the claim “false,” saying that - while experts say that ISIS could be circulating Trump’s sentiments to bolster their arguments that the West is at war with Islam - there’s no evidence to date that his rhetoric has been used in recruiting videos.

On the TODAY Show on Monday, Trump said that he would demand an apology from Clinton for her remark.

“She lies about emails, she lies about Whitewater, she lies about everything. She will be a disaster about everything as president of the United States,” he said.

Asked on Meet the Press on Sunday whether or not he would change his language if his words were being used in ISIS recruitment videos, Trump offered a firm no.

“No, because I think that my words represent toughness and strength. Hillary’s not strong, Hillary’s weak, frankly,” he said.

[book_worm]

1. Good! he never apologizes for what he says and besides she's right.

[Truthteller3562]

4. She's right?

So Clinton is right, saying that all it takes to turn a member of the great religion of peace into a terrorist is to show them a video of Trump?

Feel the Bern!

[JaneyVee]

7. Yup, she's right.

[kacekwl]

10. Taking a page from Rush Libaughs show

today. Heard the exact same words from him today. There are many videos showing Trump bashing Muslims available to show them. certainly it takes more than that to recruit people to ISIS.

[one_voice]

39. Huh?..someone else said something..

very similar just today....how odd. Doncha think?

"I still fall back on this silly idea, the idea that all it takes to turn a peaceful Muslim into a raging self-immolating bombing jihadist is to show him or her a videotape of Donald Trump suggesting a moratorium on Muslim entry to the US. I mean, how peaceful can it be if that's all it takes? And that's what Hillary is saying." -Rush

I'm not going to link, you can use the google. Though, I'm sure you know I'm right... or you are...or something..

[MynameisBlarney]

41. Oh please.

1. She IS right in that regard.
2. No.

[SusanaMontana41]

47. That's not what she said. eom

[maddiemom]

54. No. That's NOT what she's saying.

[lewebley3]

52. Go Hillary

[BlueCaliDem]

2. Good! She shouldn't apologize. He called *her* a liar so HE should be apologizing.

[randys1]

3. Bill Clinton and Donald Trump stay up nights figuring out what insane thing he can

say next.

I think when the charade is finally over, the Don is going to scold the vicious racist pigs that are his biggest supporters.

He isnt doing this because he is a noble person, he is doing it because he does not want the teaparty morons to run the country and he wants Hillary to win.

[NCTraveler]

16. Just a little nit pic. This would make his goal noble.

"He isnt doing this because he is a noble person, he is doing it because he does not want the teaparty morons to run the country and he wants Hillary to win."

[randys1]

17. No, because the reason he is afraid of the moron teapartiers is our current system

protects his vast corrupt empire.

Ever ask yourself how can such vile and disgusting human beings like him get so rich?

The answer is our system is designed to reward lying , thieving assholes.

The teaparty, while not intending to do so, would likely destroy everything, economy, environment, everything.
So for selfish reasons and ONLY selfish reasons, he wants a status quo politician which even includes Bernie to some effect.

While Bernie would challenge the status quo more than Hillary on some stuff, Bernie isnt a moron who is hell bent on his way or the highway like the teaparty is, nor is Hillary.

[NCTraveler]

18. Supporting Clinton...

And showing the tea party for who they are is pretty noble in my book. And I think the economy would suffer the same destruction under Sanders or the tea party.

[randys1]

19. WhAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

How would the economy be equally hurt by someone who wants to reign in Wall STreet and someone who wants Wall Street to make ALL the rules, or do just the opposite?

How is taking for profit education and health insurance out of the works harmful and why does it work everywhere else?

[NCTraveler]

20. He would accomplish nothing except great uncertainty.

The economies worst nightmare.

[randys1]

21. So if a miracle happens and Bernie is the Democratic nominee, you still gonna be

saying this for others to hear?

I dont mean here at DU, forget that, I mean in real life.

[NCTraveler]

22. I will support Sanders in a positive manner. Pretty simple. nt.

[randys1]

23. I am not picking a fight, and if you want to do this PM we can, this is NOT about

the rule here at DU.

So, now that you have said that, do you really believe he would do what you said with our economy and if so, how?

[NCTraveler]

26. I don't mind doing it in the open and you have been respectful.

A Sanders WH would accomplish one thing in my opinion, and it would be a big one thing. I think he would place one of the most aggressive AG's we have ever seen. His AG would focus like a laser on Wall Street and the Banking System. Meanwhile Sanders would fail to get anything of substance from congress to match. That would create an all out war and with Sanders in charge WS would win it. Sanders is a career politician and he has no network and very few friends. Not getting anything out of congress to go along with his AG would be disastrous.

I also feel he would have his AG so focused on economic issues that social justice would be sidelined. I don't think Sanders thought process if that much different than many of his supporters. They truly believe that equality will be completely cared for by way of economics. I don't think he would do anything to help the aggressive municipalities actions toward minorities at all. Simply one focus. Economics. You say what Sanders wants knowing the things you mention require purse strings. Even his own colleagues aren't big on him but you seem to think they will change tune. Not a chance.

Lastly, I would vote for Sanders in a heartbeat over anyone on the other side. If he wins the Primary you won't hear me say a negative word about him. Keeping republicans out of the WH is that important to me. While I think both would blow up the economy, Sanders would at least do so with acceptable rhetoric. I think rhetoric is one of the most underrated tools we discuss.

I could elaborate much more but I don't think DU is currently a very progressive or educational place. This is time spent whistling in the wind. It will get back to positive conversation after the primary.

I know you vehemently disagree with me and I'm ok with that. As are you. I have always appreciated your posts even with our occasional comments.

[randys1]

31. I dont vehemently disagree, I think those are reasonable objections.

I dont completely agree either but what you are saying makes more sense to me now.

More later.

[NCTraveler]

32. I do want to add...

That I think Sanders does care deeply about equality. I read my post a couple of times and see where is could be read differently. I think he cares to the point it burdens him. That's a good man.

[randys1]

33. Peace and love on that one, friend.

[SusanaMontana41]

45. "If he wins the Primary you won't hear me say a negative word about him."

As if you haven't already.

[NCTraveler]

48. Correct. I have.

That works perfectly in conjunction with the statement of mine you highlighted. I have also heaped great praise on him. Literally hundreds of positive Sanders posts.

I will continue to as well. Both the negative and positive. You can also find well over a hundred posts of mine that are negative about Clinton. There are no unicorns running.

[SusanaMontana41]

49. Ah. "A negative word" should have been "another negative word."

I get ya.

I'm not interested in looking up anyone's posts, but thanks.

I don't get the unicorn reference.

[NCTraveler]

50. i would never expect you to look up my posts. Nt

[SusanaMontana41]

51. Whew! Cool. eom

[NCTraveler]

24. I want to add this because it literally just happened and I think I have seen you write about it.

I just made a crack on Trump in front of my seventy year old mother and she said she is certain at this point that Trump is working in concert with the Clintons. My mother simply reads the local paper every day and watches the PBS News Hour every night. Nothing else. I got a kick out of it.

[randys1]

25. I know, right! Smart Woman.

I also think he not only couldnt do the job, because it is such a hard all day everyday job, but he doesnt want to.

I no longer consider my idea a theory, I believe it fully

[SusanaMontana41]

46. PBS News Hour ain't bad.

It sure beats corporate journalism (an oxymoron if ever there were one).

[SusanaMontana41]

43. Yes, Trump takes particular delight in mocking Hillary,

who "got schlonged" by black rapist President Obama. But then again, we're talking about a guy who would date his own daughter.

Here's a partial list of Trump's verbal diarrhea (not including his insult du jour, of course): http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/249102-trumps-most-notable-insults

I'm not sure he wants Hillary to win, or Sanders to win, or anyone else to win, because in Trump's world, they're losers. Trump only likes winners.

[CTyankee]

5. not sure if she said his videos were used in specifically recruitment videos or just

repalyed on the media to incite the people against the U.S. At least in this latest formation it seems to be the latter, but she could have changed the wording. Does anybody know?

[JaneyVee]

6. K AND R!

ISIS watches FOX News.

[Luminous Animal]

9. There is an ISIS produced recruitment video that includes Bill Clinton. And another with Obama...

That said. I do believe that Trumps rhetoric is dangerous. He's pretty much delivering ISIS's message. That is, the west and alliances with the west are dangerous for Muslims.

[SusanaMontana41]

44. Yes. Trump is dangerous in every way.

He scares the sh*t out of me.

Scarier still are the members of his cult.

[Douglas Carpenter]

8. If Mr. Trump apologizes for preaching hate, degrading our democracy,

harming American national interest and disgracing the United States in the eyes of the world and using Nazi/Fascist era tactics to insight discord - If he would apologize for those offenses - then Hillary's miss speak might be worth expressing regret over a possible factual error.

[NurseJackie]

11. Apparently nobody in ISIS and no ISIS sympathizers ...

... have access to Twitter, Facebook, the internet, CNN, or al Jazerra. They only get their info from ISIS on vhs via a direct mail campaign.

[Spirochete]

12. Trump is the last one

on earth that has a right to demand an apology form anyone. He can't possibly be serious, can he>?

[Matariki]

13. What, hasn't he been getting enough attention lately?

what a silly silly man

[alfredo]

14. She is goading him into being all he can be.

The more abusive he becomes, the more women will flock to her side.

What she said was important, but not as important as his overreaction to any perceived slight.

A thin skin is not very presidential.

[greymattermom]

15. Thin skin

and he will explode in public soon. He's not used to criticism, and both candidates can dish that out. He can only answer with personal attacks, and I'm sure both candidates have some zingers about him just ready to sling when they need it.

[NewJeffCT]

29. I can only imagine

Trump melting down in public when he gets really criticized. Hopefully, it will happen in October of 2016, after he's locked up the GOP nomination and is out on the campaign trail or in a debate with Bernie or Hillary.

[alfredo]

36. there's always Mr Personality Ted Cruz, and his unwilling sidekick Kid Rubio.

[alfredo]

35. Capitalist are tyrants at their core.

[emulatorloo]

27. Poor Donald Trump, so victimized. He got "shlonged!"

Fuck yes he's recruiting jihadists. I don't care how many nit-picky word-parsing "fact" checks come out of the MSM

[NewJeffCT]

28. Good - too often Democrats take the wimpy way out

and apologize. Don't do it.

I'm not really supporting any candidate in the primaries, either, so I'd be giving Bernie or O'Malley the thumbs up if they had not apologized to Trump as well.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

30. We apologize too much. Glad to see we're fighting back against that brute Donald Trump. nt

[NorthCarolina]

34. Moot point now. She has acquiesced

and now says that video of Trump "could" be used by ISIS. That's as close to an apology as he's likely to get.

[47of74]

37. Good. And f--k him.

Double fuck him in fact.

[Cha]

38. And WTF would anyone think she should?

[ellenrr]

40. i've been saying the same thing, and I'm not apologizing either.

[marble falls]

42. I support Bernie and Hillary should not back down from that comment: they....

both need to point out other recruiters for ISIS.

[Helen Borg]

53. Come on, Hillary...

Trump is a fellow Corporatist...

[Divernan]

55. This thread has been in pride of place on DU frontpage for over a week now.

B O R I N G !!!

[Joe Shlabotnik]

56. Yeah I noticed that too. n/t

[Ned Flanders]

64. The Thread That Won't Die

Some would say this article isn't going away because of the holidays, the Admins are busy with other stuff.

Others might say that it is one of the few things of which HRC supporters might be proud, so keep it flying high!

Just saying?

[DesertRat]

57. k&r

[Ivan Kaputski]

58. She's hurting baby Trump's feelings!

[eridani]

59. Good.

[mwb970]

60. al-Shabab is out with a recruiting video featuring Trump.

As far as we know, this is the first time an American presidential candidate has been used to promote global terrorism. It will not be the last. There are a lot of OTHER horrible republicans out there. Trump is a symptom, not a disease.

Since her prediction was spot on, I don't think Hillary needs to apologize to Trump. I think Trump needs to apologize to America.

[daybranch]

61. Why does this stay on here day after day?

It is just helping drown out meaningful discussion of issues.

[Skidmore]

62. Because she was correct in her analysis and

in her refusal to apologize to that racist.

[bluestateguy]

63. Not gonna be like Dick Durbin crying on the Senate floor

Hillary has more spine than that.

[Sheepshank]

65. I suspect she always knew the evidence was out there

She was giving Trump the "please proceed" treatment.

And he bit...hook, line and sinker. Gawd he's an idiot.