2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumShould Debbie Wasserman Schultz resign as DNC chair?
It's been pretty obvious her thumb was on the scale for Hillary from the start, but that computer kerfuffle last weekend was dropping a house on the scale.
Progressive voters are the base of the Democratic Party, but we haven't had a progressive chair since Howard Dean.
We need someone in that position who more than just the fat cat donors can trust.
Should Debbie Wasserman Schultz resign?
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Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Bernie's campaign screwed up by stealing data and taking advantage of a security flaw.
If DWS should step down, then Bernie should end his campaign considering the fact that stealing data is a more egregious offense.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)HoneychildMooseMoss
(251 posts)and its president has had close contact with the Clintons since at least 1992.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)It's funny how lies like that spread like wildfire among Bernie supporters....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251924008
https://mobile.twitter.com/AharonWasserman/status/678061075926007808
HoneychildMooseMoss
(251 posts)(and I will look further into that), she has done an absolutely terrible job as head of the DNC.
Do you disagree with that?
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)That's a matter of opinion. If she should step down because she's done a poor job, then Bernie should end his campaign. Stealing data like that is a much more egregious offense.
HoneychildMooseMoss
(251 posts)What's Debbie's piss-poor performance as chair of the DNC got to do with Bernie's campaign????
Bernie represents the best interests of me, my sister, my nephew, and my mother. DWS represents the interests of people who have no idea what my relatives are going through.
sonofspy777
(360 posts)It was nothing more than another indicator of her unsuitability for
any role not in the food service or housekeeping industries
randys1
(16,286 posts)the least amount of people would watch.
It is clear to me, undeniably clear to me that DWS is orchestrating this to try and help Hillary.
Then she made the ultimate blunder to make the data issue public as it has harmed BOTH candidates. I am sure DWS did this to only harm Bernie, but it backfired.
You know me, you know I will work for the Hillary campaign if I have to as if lives depend on it because they do, but this is an example of where it is best to admit your mistake and move on.
AGain, does NOT matter that the Bernie staffer did this on purpose. We ALL Agree Bernie himself would never knowingly allow this.
Why it doesnt matter is ONLY because if we ONLY care about occupying the WH next time around, we dont make our family business public like this.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)Getting a new chair would calm the turmoil not increase it.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I wouldn't have a problem with her no longer being a member of the Democratic Party.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Just a suggestion
yurbud
(39,405 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)because "Fuck Yes" was not an option
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Only because she should be fired was not an option, I wouldn't give her the privilege of quitting..
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Dealing with this is in private is the best practice, as any *good* leader of any organization will tell you, because you don't want unwarranted negative attention from the press. Unless of course, you want to throw someone under the bus...
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Not having good software companies is really small potatos compared to utterly failing to mitigate congressional losses. Protecting her own seat and failing to support three other Democrats running in Florida would also have been good reasons.
We need a 50 state DNC plan like Dean.
Enough of this Third Way crap.
HoneychildMooseMoss
(251 posts)we were thrashed in two midterm elections. She should have been kicked out after the 2014 debacle. Why she was allowed to stay after that is a puzzle wrapped around an enigma wrapped around a mystery.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)If Dems had supermajority, Third Way would have no excuse for enacting corporate dictated policies.
They need the GOP so they can say those mean conservatives are twisting their arms.
That was an argument I was making here in 2009 and early 2010.
There were a lot of goddamned blue dogs and DLC jerks giving Veto cover to the GOP. Some of the same people here screaming for party loyalty were giving cover to those same congress-people for screwing over President Obama and the party.
They were the same people shrieking at us about "wanting ponies" during the healthcare debate for wanting single payer.
I wondered if the third way democrats didn't want to carry the GOP for a bit to assure they would have people to triangulate with in order to maintain their power. Because if the GOP had been defeated more completely, then why would we bother with triangulation?
They failed to take the great blue wave of 2006 and President Obama's victory in 2008 as signs that the electorate was biting at the bit for some serious systemic change.
It was intensely frustrating.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I'd love to see some evidence of this.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)legislature (then did nothing of the sort) because he need Republicans to do the dirty work of privatizing K-12 public education among other things.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)It is simple reality that the DNC leadership cannot - absolutely cannot - maintain credibility as a neutral arbitrator when you have a DNC Chair so close to one of the campaign and so hostile to another of the campaigns.
This would be like having as the DNC Chair a former Sanders campaign manager who had publicly expressed disdain for the bluster of Hillary's campaign. - Sensible and fair minded people would not buy it.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)after a previous breach was reported by the Sanders campaign. Hillary Clinton needs to distance herself from Debbie Wasserman-Schultz or she'll be dragged down.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)She's awful. Always has been.
earthside
(6,960 posts)http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/12/19/new-information-shows-dnc-violated-its-own-rules-when-it-shut-down-sanders-campaign-data-access/
Phlem
(6,323 posts)They'd just get another mouthpiece to replace her.
The DNC needs to be scrubbed with industrial cleanser and wire brushes!!!
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)trueblue2007
(17,237 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)I support a FULL FRONTAL FIRING with Extreme Prejudice, as publicly as possible,
and a restraining order keeping her 1000 feet from ANY campaign HQ of the DNC.
She shouldn't JUST be removed from the DNC.
She should be removed from the Democratic Party:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251911615
yurbud
(39,405 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)of a DINO either. She has destroyed the party in so many ways, supports Republicans in Florida. I wouldn't even let her post on a Democratic forum, let alone run the DNC.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)regardless of how much someone stabs them in the back.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)to support throwing sick people in prison for using cannabis.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Certainly after the general.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Hillary will probably move her to Chief of Staff for the fine job DSW did at the DNC.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)that's what usually happens when you help elect a president.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Resign gives her the appearance of being decent.