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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:59 PM Dec 2015

A door that's not a backdoor, and magical ponies who burp ice cream

from Rolling Stone:

___You might imagine that Hillary Clinton — of all people — would be sensitive to the liberty interests of hiding personal communications from prying eyes. This is the public servant, after all, who as secretary of state maintained a private email server — with the benefit to Clinton of being able to vet and delete her own communications before they became a permanent part of the public record.

In this context, it was troubling Saturday evening to hear Clinton's response to a question about the power of high technology to ensure privacy. Blasting "encrypted communication that no law enforcement agency can break into," Clinton said, "I would hope that, given the extraordinary capacities that the tech community has and the legitimate needs and questions from law enforcement, that there could be a Manhattan-like project — something that would bring the government and the tech communities together to see they're not adversaries, they've got to be partners."

Clinton's Big Brotherish proposal was as troubling as it was vague. And it seemed stubbornly resistant to the reality that America's tech firms have shifted to powerful encryption — precisely in the wake of Snowden's revelations — as a way to reassure consumers around the globe that they are not tools of the American surveillance state.

More troubling: Clinton readily admitted she really didn't understand her own proposal: "I don't know enough about the technology, Martha, to be able to say what it is," Clinton added.

Tech companies like Apple have resisted calls to place a "backdoor" in encryption technology that would allow governments to peek at private communications, arguing that such a backdoor could equally be exploited by hackers and render the privacy protections useless.

"Maybe the backdoor is the wrong door, and I understand what Apple and others are saying about that," Clinton said, insisting nonetheless that a door was necessary: "I know that law enforcement needs the tools to keep us safe."

Clinton's remarks earned her the mockery of one of the top disrupters in Silicon Valley, who found her call for a door that's not a backdoor nonsensical: Marc Andreessen, the founder of Netscape and now a top venture capitalist taunted on Twitter, "Also we can create magical ponies who burp ice cream while we're at it."


read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/edward-snowden-clintons-call-for-a-manhattan-like-project-is-terrifying-20151220

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A door that's not a backdoor, and magical ponies who burp ice cream (Original Post) bigtree Dec 2015 OP
Isn't it interesting, THIS is what she thinks we should have a "manhattan project" for? Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #1
+1 daleanime Dec 2015 #2
Fantastic response, worthy of its own OP. n/t femmedem Dec 2015 #3
+ 1,000 AzDar Dec 2015 #15
Absolutely nails it dreamnightwind Dec 2015 #5
Warren, you have a great mind. Bonobo Dec 2015 #12
I dont know what you're talking about, honest. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #13
Fantastic post. draa Dec 2015 #14
BIG SISTER wants to watch you grasswire Dec 2015 #4
Well said! sonofspy777 Dec 2015 #6
"I dont know what encryption is, but I know it's bad!" Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #8
It's Christmas time for authoritarians and anti-free speech types, everyone has a list out Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #7
Clinton is clueless on the value of privacy. Vattel Dec 2015 #9
Nah, why do you think she had her own personal email server? Fumesucker Dec 2015 #10
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #11
covering us all with healthcare too expensive and accountable stupidicus Dec 2015 #16
I was not happy with her comments on this. nt Wilms Dec 2015 #17
» bigtree Dec 2015 #18
kick. Luminous Animal Dec 2015 #19

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
1. Isn't it interesting, THIS is what she thinks we should have a "manhattan project" for?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:15 PM
Dec 2015

Not, say, finding renewable means to power our civilization, that won't cause our grandchildren to live on an overheated planet.

No, we should throw the entire might of our intellectual power to finding SOME way for cops to be able to search peoples' iphones for naughty behavior- surely, to "stop terror", of course, right?

Because whenever Law Enforcement demands super-new "terror fighting powers", that's what happens.

[font size=5]PATRIOT Act Warrants Used More For Drugs Than For Terrorism[/font]



Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
12. Warren, you have a great mind.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:21 PM
Dec 2015

Seriously, you're always the one to get right to the heart. Must be all that acid.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. I dont know what you're talking about, honest.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:23 PM
Dec 2015

Anyway, the statute of limitations is up on anything i most certainly did not ever eat at a dead show or two.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. Nah, why do you think she had her own personal email server?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:16 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary knows full well the value of privacy, just just doesn't give a shit if anyone else has it.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
16. covering us all with healthcare too expensive and accountable
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:05 PM
Dec 2015

while invading our privacy with as little accountability as possible, desirable if not absolutely necessary.

ergo, information is more important than the preservation of human lives and avoidance of unnnecessary human misery.

tell me again how she became the preferred candidate...

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