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Eugene

(61,894 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:39 PM Dec 2015

Hillary Clinton Campaign Doubles Down After Experts Question Claim About ISIS Videos Using Donald Tr

Source: ABC News

Hillary Clinton Campaign Doubles Down After Experts Question Claim About ISIS Videos Using Donald Trump

By LIZ KREUTZ
Dec 20, 2015, 10:50 AM ET

Hillary Clinton’s communications director defended her candidate’s claim that ISIS is using videos of Donald Trump to recruit members, but could not point to specific evidence of this happening in an interview on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" today.

Jen Palmieri said Clinton wasn't referring to a specific video during Saturday's debate when she said Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric is making him "ISIS's best recruiter" and that “they are going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.” Clinton offered no specific evidence of the claim.

"She’s not referring to a specific video, but he is being used in social media by ISIS as propaganda,” said Palmieri.

Many fact checkers and national security experts have been unable to verify Clinton's claim. White House and National Security Council officials would also not support her assertion, telling ABC News they are unaware of any examples of ISIS including Trump in the group's videos.

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Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clintons-campaign-defends-claim-isis-videos-donald/story?id=35854733
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Hillary Clinton Campaign Doubles Down After Experts Question Claim About ISIS Videos Using Donald Tr (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2015 OP
Imagine That - HRC Told A Lie - Expect More To Come cantbeserious Dec 2015 #1
Remember DWS says "Negatives don't matter" FreakinDJ Dec 2015 #2
Did she mention being "dead broke" in her latest expansion of flexible truth? Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #3
Donald Trump is seen all over the world. leftofcool Dec 2015 #4
she fooled me with that one Enrique Dec 2015 #5
oh, look, a thread defending Trump bigtree Dec 2015 #6
Nobody can honestly say the post is "defending Trump" arcane1 Dec 2015 #7
of course, it does bigtree Dec 2015 #12
I read the article, and nothing in there defends Trump HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #14
what can I say? bigtree Dec 2015 #15
That's fair. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #17
Whatever It Takes(tm) arcane1 Dec 2015 #16
this article sure isn't honest bigtree Dec 2015 #18
You noticed that too, eh? leftofcool Dec 2015 #9
Pretty special, isn't it? Skidmore Dec 2015 #10
This thread, in no way, defends Donald Trump. HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #11
the article absolutely does. It defends Trump by splitting hairs bigtree Dec 2015 #13
Perhaps watching even inside the US. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #8
I was more surprised when she spoke of a long day in Geneva karynnj Dec 2015 #19
I'm pretty sure that Trump has shown up Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #20
...and...and.... bvar22 Dec 2015 #21
Shady regarding her Education Plan and Donors ("look them up"), too... AzDar Dec 2015 #22
Liar liar... 99Forever Dec 2015 #23
Worse.. she invokved Islamaphobia loyalsister Dec 2015 #24
Seriously? It almost sounds like defending ISIS! treestar Dec 2015 #25
Not all Bernie supporters™ gwheezie Dec 2015 #26

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
4. Donald Trump is seen all over the world.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:47 PM
Dec 2015

What makes people disbelieve that ISIS watches him spout his bigotry. Of course they watch the videos.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. she fooled me with that one
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:49 PM
Dec 2015

my least favorite lies are the ones that fool me.

I'm glad the media caught it before I spread it to anyone.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
7. Nobody can honestly say the post is "defending Trump"
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:52 PM
Dec 2015

Making up bullshit does no one any good.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
12. of course, it does
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:03 PM
Dec 2015

...it wouldn't take much acknowledge that Trump's hatespeak is going to be used by all sorts of demagogues, including ISIS.

Yet this article bends back the other way to completely discount Hillary's statement that "Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric is making him "ISIS's best recruiter" and that “they are going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.”

It's a defense of Trump which shouldn't get a moments effort from anyone actually concerned with his rhetoric, and it's made at Hillary's expense for stating the obvious.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
14. I read the article, and nothing in there defends Trump
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:12 PM
Dec 2015

All it did was refute the claim that Hillary made during the debate.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
15. what can I say?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:26 PM
Dec 2015

...you have your perspective, I have mine.

It didn't 'refute' anything. It stretched her statement to the point of misrepresenting what she actually said, and errs in dismissing her claim out-of-hand.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
18. this article sure isn't honest
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:35 PM
Dec 2015

...and it carries water for a rabid demagogue.

That's something which could only make it's way onto a Democratic forum as a slam on Hillary. It's a defense of Trump and a slam on our Democratic candidate which can only be seen as fair through an anti-Hillary lens.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
10. Pretty special, isn't it?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:00 PM
Dec 2015

Political naivete or intentional sabotage are sometimes hard to differentiate.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
13. the article absolutely does. It defends Trump by splitting hairs
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:06 PM
Dec 2015

...and it looks like the poster took the bait, hook, line, and sinker.

It's not really surprising, as anything anti-Hillary is seen as fair game here.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
19. I was more surprised when she spoke of a long day in Geneva
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:45 PM
Dec 2015

When she drafted the UN resolution - conflating a 2011/2012 resolution that was vetoed by Russia and China with the resolution that Kerry and Lavrov led about 20 countries including all P5 and Iran and Saudi Arabia to draft.

This is weird for two reasons. First, Obama himself is not getting much credit for it and she purposely is not speaking of his actions - even when she speaks of pulling together a coalition against ISIS, ignoring he has about 60 countries in a coalition and that could expand if Syria starts a transition. Second, it is completely obvious that the two resolutions are not the same. It's like claiming credit for a nicely baked souffle, cooked in the same oven where you cooked one that fell after it was removed from the oven nearly 4 years earlier.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
20. I'm pretty sure that Trump has shown up
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:51 PM
Dec 2015

on Al-Jazeera a time or 2...still,, it was a pretty broad claim.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
22. Shady regarding her Education Plan and Donors ("look them up"), too...
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:34 PM
Dec 2015

She's a LIAR... and Bernie needs to call her shit OUT.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
24. Worse.. she invokved Islamaphobia
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:53 PM
Dec 2015

From the debate transcript...

"well, if we can't know what someone is planning, we are going to have to rely on the neighbor or, you know, the member of the mosque or the teacher, somebody to see something."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/19/3rd-democratic-debate-transcript-annotated-who-said-what-and-what-it-meant/


She mentioned the mosque for a reason. Again pulling the bigoted practice of demanding Muslims to take responsibility for terrorism. I once believed that Hillary Clinton was not a bigot, now I'm not so sure. Her attitude towards BLM and the above statement suggest she is.

In fairness, Bernie ducked the question on profiling.

And Martin O'Malley nailed it.

My friend Kashif, who is a doctor in Maryland; back to this issue of our danger as a democracy of turning against ourselves. He was putting his 10 and 12-year-old boys to bed the other night. And he is a proud American Muslim. And one of his little boys said to him, "Dad, what happens if Donald Trump wins and we have to move out of our homes?" These are very, very real issues. this is a clear and present danger in our politics within.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. Seriously? It almost sounds like defending ISIS!
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:01 PM
Dec 2015

Like they would never do such a thing! I guess they are innocent of these charges?

Trump is dangerously spreading bigotry and it's more important to try to find a way to bash Hillary? SMH.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
26. Not all Bernie supporters™
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:29 PM
Dec 2015

Have at times sided with Isis, trump and Putin because Hillary makes them so mad.

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