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Matariki

(18,775 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:40 PM Dec 2015

Sanders outshone Clinton on foreign policy at the debate. But who watched?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/20/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-debate-foreign-policy

For months Bernie Sanders has tried and failed – and sometimes not even tried – to distinguish himself from Hillary Clinton on foreign policy. On Saturday, he finally found his line in the sand.

The key distinction is this: in Syria, Clinton favors a focus on toppling Bashar al-Assad while simultaneously combating Isis. Sanders says overthrowing Isis must come first, and he also criticized her plans to go after Assad, calling her a “fan of regime change”.

Previously, Sanders had struggled to draw a substantive contrast between Hillary and himself beyond her vote to go to war with Iraq years ago. The monotonous attack made it look like he had no real foreign policy platform to speak of; finally, he has one.

He didn’t back down from his attacks on her vote on Iraq at Saturday night’s debate, but rather drew out its meaning, using it as a lens for the differing ways he and she see foreign policy.

“I worry Secretary Clinton is too much into regime change and too aggressive without knowing what the consequences will be,” he said, his clearest contrast with Clinton to date. “Yeah, regime change is easy, getting rid of regime change is easy, but … what happens the day after?”

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Sanders outshone Clinton on foreign policy at the debate. But who watched? (Original Post) Matariki Dec 2015 OP
Sanders is our guy. PatrickforO Dec 2015 #1
No question about that.... daleanime Dec 2015 #2
We had 6.71 million viewers yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #3
Gee, on a Saturday night; the weekend before Xmas. I wonder why nobody watched? progressoid Dec 2015 #4
I watched barbtries Dec 2015 #5
Me too. Matariki Dec 2015 #6
My "live feed" died. :( libdem4life Dec 2015 #7
Yeah, their connection really was bad. Matariki Dec 2015 #8
Clinton got a good one in on Sanders about Libya Chitown Kev Dec 2015 #9
What fucking debate did you watch Hillary was on her game bigdarryl Dec 2015 #10

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
2. No question about that....
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:02 PM
Dec 2015

the only question is can we over come the party leadership and make it so.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
3. We had 6.71 million viewers
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:30 PM
Dec 2015

GOP had 18.56 million. Ours was better but least watched. Hopefully people will watch non traditional ways.

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
4. Gee, on a Saturday night; the weekend before Xmas. I wonder why nobody watched?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:35 PM
Dec 2015

I was at a Xmas party with a lot of Democrats. Most didn't even know there was a debate.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
9. Clinton got a good one in on Sanders about Libya
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:05 PM
Dec 2015

but yeah, it really looked as if Sanders hit the briefing books on FP last night...I think "outshone" is an exaggeration but he was certainly able to go toe-to-toe with Hillary on the topic.

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