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Related: About this forumSanders outshone Clinton on foreign policy at the debate. But who watched?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/20/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-debate-foreign-policyFor months Bernie Sanders has tried and failed and sometimes not even tried to distinguish himself from Hillary Clinton on foreign policy. On Saturday, he finally found his line in the sand.
The key distinction is this: in Syria, Clinton favors a focus on toppling Bashar al-Assad while simultaneously combating Isis. Sanders says overthrowing Isis must come first, and he also criticized her plans to go after Assad, calling her a fan of regime change.
Previously, Sanders had struggled to draw a substantive contrast between Hillary and himself beyond her vote to go to war with Iraq years ago. The monotonous attack made it look like he had no real foreign policy platform to speak of; finally, he has one.
He didnt back down from his attacks on her vote on Iraq at Saturday nights debate, but rather drew out its meaning, using it as a lens for the differing ways he and she see foreign policy.
I worry Secretary Clinton is too much into regime change and too aggressive without knowing what the consequences will be, he said, his clearest contrast with Clinton to date. Yeah, regime change is easy, getting rid of regime change is easy, but what happens the day after?
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Sanders outshone Clinton on foreign policy at the debate. But who watched? (Original Post)
Matariki
Dec 2015
OP
Gee, on a Saturday night; the weekend before Xmas. I wonder why nobody watched?
progressoid
Dec 2015
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PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)1. Sanders is our guy.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)2. No question about that....
the only question is can we over come the party leadership and make it so.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)3. We had 6.71 million viewers
GOP had 18.56 million. Ours was better but least watched. Hopefully people will watch non traditional ways.
progressoid
(49,990 posts)4. Gee, on a Saturday night; the weekend before Xmas. I wonder why nobody watched?
I was at a Xmas party with a lot of Democrats. Most didn't even know there was a debate.
barbtries
(28,794 posts)5. I watched
The first one I have watched
Matariki
(18,775 posts)6. Me too.
but we're probably more 'political geeks' than most of the country.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)7. My "live feed" died. :(
Matariki
(18,775 posts)8. Yeah, their connection really was bad.
mine didn't die but it choked up and froze often.
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)9. Clinton got a good one in on Sanders about Libya
but yeah, it really looked as if Sanders hit the briefing books on FP last night...I think "outshone" is an exaggeration but he was certainly able to go toe-to-toe with Hillary on the topic.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)10. What fucking debate did you watch Hillary was on her game
With foreign policy