2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew NBC/WSJ poll
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/15564%20NBCWSJ%20December%20Poll%20(AM%2012-14-15%20Release).pdfPrimary-CLinton 56%(-6) Bernie 37%(+5) O'Malley 4%(-1)
GOP clown car-Trump 27%(+4) Cruz-22%(+12) Rubio 15%(+4) Carson 11%(-18) Bush 7%(-1)
they didn't both to poll bernie against republicans-i know what a shock but here is how clinton performs
Clinton 50% Trump 40%(-2)
Carson 47% Clinton 46%(-1)
Rubio 48%(+4) Clinton 45%(-2)
Clinton 48%(-1) Cruz 45%(+4)
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)numbers down in single digits.
All the candidates running ahead of him are abominable, no question, but I'm taking particular encouragement that the prospect of a third Bush White House grows more remote with each passing hour.
merrily
(45,251 posts)by making a weird sound or body gesture. It's weird.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)idiot brother would slip into folksy cowboy mode, lopping the g's off his verb, and do tough talk against the terrorists, blah blah blah.
Jeb doesn't seem to have a persona. Those smart-guy glasses don't seem to have worked.
For the money he's dumped into this campaign, he sure has very little to show for it.
merrily
(45,251 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)need for these here smart-guy glasses. They're all yours if ya want 'em."
merrily
(45,251 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)"We pretend smarties gotta stick together!"
PatrickforO
(14,574 posts)She isn't a good leader because she has become so poll-driven I suspect even she has forgotten what, if anything, she really stands for.
merrily
(45,251 posts)It's been said often, but I'll say it again. Anyone who wants to be President so much that they lose sight of everything else, should never get near the WH.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)her only change seems to be if trump is nominee and even then would these numbers hold over a GE where both candiates are unliked?
Scacy thing is here she only has a 1 point lead over carson and 3 point lead over crz.both of them are scacy.carson is right wing
iddiot who thankfully is declining in primary but cruz as nominee if trump declines isn't a crazy thought anymore and he is just as bad as trump.And rubio would actully lead her by 3 points.
merrily
(45,251 posts)IMO, this means we can expect to see her ramp up religion.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)or we could call it regime change.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Robbins
(5,066 posts)but nationwide since their last poll CLinton has drop 6 points and Bernie gained 6 points.
It's totally crock not to poll bernie against Republicans.
One user said bernie hasn't been able to crack 30% well here he is at 37% nationwide and it's 19 point race.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
merrily
(45,251 posts)that is why corporate media doesn't do it anymore.it destroyed the clinton is more electable memo.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)The corporatist, third wayers, DINOs, oligarchs, 1%ers and neo liberals are all manipulating the polls! O' Malley is really ahead of Bernie.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)Is one's choice.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)CLinton 56%(-6)
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)This is in line with all recent polls; 55-58%
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Bernie 37% (+5)
Krytan11c
(271 posts)Is that not budging?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)This is in line with all recent polling; 55-58%
Krytan11c
(271 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)progressoid
(49,990 posts)Sweet Jesus, this country is fucked up.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)say that he failed to win his party's nomination, as the first votes have not even been cast
But on a personal note, I just want to say I hope he's on track toward achieving that failure. Everything about him to me says Bad News.