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mmonk

(52,589 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:42 AM Dec 2015

I still can't get over it. The way the DNC

has handled the data breach by the Sanders campaign, especially when compared how it handled the same issue in 2008, showed its contempt for a democratic process (and by extension, Democratic voters). This needs to be cleaned up sooner rather than later or the price will be high in my estimation. My two cents.

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I still can't get over it. The way the DNC (Original Post) mmonk Dec 2015 OP
DWS doesn't care. She won't pay any price. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #1
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is one of those privileged people ... bvar22 Dec 2015 #16
The Peter Principle, I read that well over half my lifetime ago and does it explain a lot Fumesucker Dec 2015 #24
I'm still shocked at DWS giving an interview saying tthe Sanders campaign has 'nothing but bluster' Kentonio Dec 2015 #2
It wasn't handled well by DWS Dem2 Dec 2015 #3
If the BS campaign staff had responded to the DNC questions DURHAM D Dec 2015 #4
+1 NurseJackie Dec 2015 #7
They had to suspend the access, because they were fearful what the Sanders campaign had breached boston bean Dec 2015 #8
What bullshit spin. You DNC Debbie defenders are really.... something cali Dec 2015 #10
It is not bullshit. I'm a defender of facts. boston bean Dec 2015 #11
You can't even admit it was bungled from the start from Sanders' amateur team. KittyWampus Dec 2015 #18
'Cleaned up' how? randome Dec 2015 #5
Replacing her. Should be obvious. mmonk Dec 2015 #13
DWS has done a lot of damage to the Democratic brand. demmiblue Dec 2015 #6
As long as the AIPAC money keeps flowing through her, she IS the Democratic party. n/t FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #9
Huh? cali Dec 2015 #14
Most voters don't care about the DNC or DWS. MineralMan Dec 2015 #12
Sorry but this was played out in the press mmonk Dec 2015 #15
Again, I think you're overestimating the percentage of people MineralMan Dec 2015 #17
This. bigwillq Dec 2015 #19
I turned this into an OP. MineralMan Dec 2015 #20
I just K and Red it! bigwillq Dec 2015 #21
Thanks. MineralMan Dec 2015 #22
I'm trying to figure out in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #23

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
16. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is one of those privileged people ...
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:56 PM
Dec 2015

..who is entitled to Fail Upwards.

She has certainly gone beyond her Level of Incompetence,
which means she is very competent at pleasing the Party Insiders.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
2. I'm still shocked at DWS giving an interview saying tthe Sanders campaign has 'nothing but bluster'
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:46 AM
Dec 2015

Seriously, in what world is that ok? She should have been removed from her position the very next day.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
3. It wasn't handled well by DWS
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:47 AM
Dec 2015

Fortunately the candidates were bigger than dws and it's basically over now.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
4. If the BS campaign staff had responded to the DNC questions
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:48 AM
Dec 2015

this would not have happened.

It is beyond belief that they kept the problem a secret from their candidate and he had to be informed more than 24 hours later by DWS. Senator Sanders needs an entire new team but I am afraid it is too late for him to hire the supportive/professional staff he deserves.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
8. They had to suspend the access, because they were fearful what the Sanders campaign had breached
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:50 AM
Dec 2015

could be used to search against the main database.

I wish people could just admit they did wrong and let's move the hell on. But I'm not moving on with this when people are spouting all these false conspiracy theories. Something pulls at me to set the record straight. Once they do, I will.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. 'Cleaned up' how?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:49 AM
Dec 2015

Sanders filed a lawsuit and DWS made a statement. How does any of this impact the man on the street? No one cares about these petty political squabbles. Sanders will rise or fall on his own merits.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
12. Most voters don't care about the DNC or DWS.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:49 PM
Dec 2015

A sizable majority don't even recognize either the DNC or its head. Only political wonks bother with such stuff. And most political wonks have already decided who they're supporting and won't change their minds.

Think headlines and news media leads. That's as far as most people go. Even on DU, a fairly high percentage of members never bother to read an entire OP.

It's not the subtleties of a campaign that influence voters. Not by a long shot. Voters make decisions based on factors most of us on DU don't even notice.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
15. Sorry but this was played out in the press
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:54 PM
Dec 2015

by her. We won't know how it plays out until later. It is now a wild card.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
17. Again, I think you're overestimating the percentage of people
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:59 PM
Dec 2015

who give a damn about it at all. Here's what I think will be remembered from the who data issue in two headline style statements:

Sanders Staffers Steal Clinton Data
Sanders Apologizes; Fires Staffers


Net effect on people's choice of primary candidates = 0
Net change in probability of becoming nominee = 0

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
19. This.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:01 PM
Dec 2015

Good post.



Folks on both sides of this situation are wasting their time, imo. This data story is not that big of a deal.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
23. I'm trying to figure out
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:06 PM
Dec 2015

where corrupt DWS and her corrupt DNC think they're going to get enough voters to vote for HRH, should she, by some miracle, be the nominee.

Alienate TRUE PROGRESSIVES, Millennials, Boomers, Independents - you can't win! The numbers aren't there.

There will be no kissing and making up after all this Primary Bullshit, so.......good luck with that.

I'm excited about the lawsuit DISCOVERY phase. That should expose the entire game. ALL OF IT. DWS GOES DOWN IN SHAME and won't help HRH'S campaign one bit. The CORRUPTION will be exposed-finally.

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