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Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:34 AM Dec 2015

We need to support our nominee..2 Words.."Supreme Court"

I am for Bernie, but I will support Hillary, even with the issues surrounding her...



Terrible Supreme Court appointments could change this country and make it.. " far more evil"..

The clowns would appoint idiots who would overturn Roe v Wade..and Brown vs Bd of Ed.

The clowns did appoint idiots who made corporations ..people..???????????????????????

I will support Hillary even though there are issues in my mind..... so what. ????

Here is the.. most serious and most important issue for me...Far more important then other " so called issues".......

I care more about Roe v Wade .... and Hillary will appoint supporters of Roe v Wade and woman's right to choose, and Trump and the rest of the idiots will not support a woman's right to choose....

Yes, there are "issues"...but but other "issues" are more important..and remember..Supreme Court appointments are for a lifetime... (that is in the Constitution)

Clarance Thomas is going to be there for a while...who needs another Clarance Thomas?

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We need to support our nominee..2 Words.."Supreme Court" (Original Post) Stuart G Dec 2015 OP
I have 0 confidence she will make a difference. berni_mccoy Dec 2015 #1
I have 0 confidence she will win the GE. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebkeh Dec 2015 #20
None whatsoever Rebkeh Dec 2015 #21
You note a big issue with the abortion issue, there are lots of other Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #2
I agree..Hillary will make a big difference compared to ..ANY Republican..you are correct!! Stuart G Dec 2015 #4
We need to nominate the right person and quit trying to extort the vote of Americans. CBGLuthier Dec 2015 #5
I think Bernie will make GREAT Supreme Court nominations. 99Forever Dec 2015 #6
Two Words - No Way cantbeserious Dec 2015 #7
Are you sure??? President Ted Cruz , over President Hillary Clinton? Stuart G Dec 2015 #10
Stuart - The Vote Of Each Citizen Is Private - And None Of Any Other Citizen's Business cantbeserious Dec 2015 #13
I agree with you completely!!Of course. but this is a "Discussion on Democratic Primaries" in Stuart G Dec 2015 #14
Stuart - You Are Entitled To Your Opinion And Your Vote - This Citizen Sees The World Differently cantbeserious Dec 2015 #16
But the pure little snowflakes will not vote Democratic tabasco Dec 2015 #8
Without a solid majority in the Senate it won't matter. hobbit709 Dec 2015 #9
You are assuming that Clinton's SCOTUS nominees tularetom Dec 2015 #11
I believe that Clinton's SCOTUS nominees would be a lot different than republican candidates...nt Stuart G Dec 2015 #12
Yes HRC is no different than Facist Trump and Fundy Cruz emulatorloo Dec 2015 #31
No but she will appoint justices who will support the ongoing transfer of wealth upward tularetom Dec 2015 #35
+1 Agschmid Dec 2015 #37
Some people think that "punishing" the country for nominating the "wrong person" ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #15
thank youmfor remembering the pets restorefreedom Dec 2015 #26
and whose nominations are most likely to tk2kewl Dec 2015 #17
Does the ISDS laugh at our SCOTUS? aspirant Dec 2015 #18
Hell yes. This needs to said and repeated. K & R nt Persondem Dec 2015 #19
Hell No - This Line Of Reasoning Needs To Snuffed - ASAP cantbeserious Dec 2015 #22
HRC Is TOO Conservative for Me, But The Meme She Will Appoint New Scalias Is Absurd emulatorloo Dec 2015 #28
HRC Is Merely The Soft Form Of Corporate Control - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks cantbeserious Dec 2015 #30
Is she a Nazi like Trump or a Crazy Christian like Cruz? emulatorloo Dec 2015 #32
Not Voting For The Lessor Of Two Corporate Evils - Is The More Hopeful Choice cantbeserious Dec 2015 #34
Neither Bernie or MOM or HRC are "evil." I cannot say the same for the Republican candidates. emulatorloo Dec 2015 #36
HRC Is The Establishment Corporate Candidate - By Definition - She Is Evil As Their Representative cantbeserious Dec 2015 #38
So SCOTUS is NOT important?!? You cantbeserious!! Persondem Dec 2015 #29
Not Voting For The Lessor Of Two Corporate Evils - Is The More Hopeful Choice cantbeserious Dec 2015 #33
+1000 percent! demosincebirth Dec 2015 #23
This chart from the Maddowblog shows why this issue is so important Gothmog Dec 2015 #24
Thanks. This is a most important issue. (eom) oasis Dec 2015 #40
The next POTUS could pick three or four SCOTUS justices Gothmog Dec 2015 #41
Yeah, those two words aren't so magical anymore. reformist2 Dec 2015 #25
Absolutely right. MariaThinks Dec 2015 #27
Of course. If Rex the Wonder Dog was the Democratic candidate I'd be right behind him. mikehiggins Dec 2015 #39

Response to berni_mccoy (Reply #1)

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
21. None whatsoever
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:52 AM
Dec 2015

I too have no confidence she would change anything. I know she could but she wouldn't.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. You note a big issue with the abortion issue, there are lots of other
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:44 AM
Dec 2015

Issues we accept everyday which will be turned around. CU is bad, how many more of this type will happen? Plus allowing the election of ANY Republican running will allow many changes the GOP loves, we do not need their hate laws.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
4. I agree..Hillary will make a big difference compared to ..ANY Republican..you are correct!!
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:47 AM
Dec 2015

But her court appointments will be far superior to those of ..ANY Republican.

Court appointments are for life.....

think about that one, please...

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
6. I think Bernie will make GREAT Supreme Court nominations.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:50 AM
Dec 2015

That's one reason why he has 100% of my support.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
10. Are you sure??? President Ted Cruz , over President Hillary Clinton?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:58 AM
Dec 2015

and...starting this discussion is important. Why? Yes there are very hard feelings on both sides of this..

It ain't easy if your nominee looses..at any point in the election cycle..but..

President Ted Cruz, or President Hillary Clinton..who are you for?

oh, you will not vote?.. Yes, I want Bernie..Yes...

but..................................................

I do not want........President Ted Cruz....under any circumstances

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
13. Stuart - The Vote Of Each Citizen Is Private - And None Of Any Other Citizen's Business
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:04 AM
Dec 2015

This Citizen will not vote for HRC because that candidate has not earned the vote of this Citizen.

That candidate speaks in platitudes and in speaking those platitudes reminds this Citizen that the candidate is owned by and in service to Oligarchs, Corporations and Banks.

This Citizen views that candidate as a repeat of O; this Citizen will never make that mistake again.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
14. I agree with you completely!!Of course. but this is a "Discussion on Democratic Primaries" in
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:15 AM
Dec 2015

a place where people have discussions on democratic politics ..now and future..that is what this is..
and...

we are discussing potential outcomes of an upcoming primary and general election in a... .."Primary Forum"

everyone has a secret vote. of course..or ..don't vote...you have that option..

But, this discussion is about.. Why I will vote for someone who I may not like ...as opposed to

Ted Cruz, or Trumpedy Dump who I hate.

That is this discussion, ..today..Your vote is secret, and I respect that..but to me Clinton would be so much better than

Trumpedy Dump or Ted Cruz.. that is my opinion in this forum right now..

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
16. Stuart - You Are Entitled To Your Opinion And Your Vote - This Citizen Sees The World Differently
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:20 AM
Dec 2015

That difference is simply this ...

Continuing to vote for the lessor of two corporate evils will never break the chain of control imposed by the Oligarchs, Corporations and Banks.

So voting for a now presumptive nominee is not an option for the conscience of this Citizen.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
8. But the pure little snowflakes will not vote Democratic
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:55 AM
Dec 2015

if their chosen savior is not nominated. So fucking stupid.

BTW - I support Sanders in the primary.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
9. Without a solid majority in the Senate it won't matter.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:58 AM
Dec 2015

Do you really think that either Bernie or Hillary will get anything through a Senate controlled by the likes of Yertle The Turtle.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
11. You are assuming that Clinton's SCOTUS nominees
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 10:58 AM
Dec 2015

Would be any different than those appointed by most of the republican candidates.

I don't share your confidence that they would.

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
31. Yes HRC is no different than Facist Trump and Fundy Cruz
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:37 PM
Dec 2015

She will appoint crazy Christians and Neo-Nazis to the court just like they will.

<sarcasm>

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
35. No but she will appoint justices who will support the ongoing transfer of wealth upward
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:51 PM
Dec 2015

Her appointments may not be as religiously nuts as those of Cruz et al but they will not make decisions that will favor the middle class and weaken the hold that corporate Amurka has on this country. They will not, for example. vote to repeal citizens united and if the matter reaches the court, they will not uphold a minimum wage of $15/hr or more.

Her appointments may vote the right way on issues like gay marriage, but on the really important economic matters, they will be corporate all the way.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Some people think that "punishing" the country for nominating the "wrong person" ...
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:20 AM
Dec 2015

... is more important.

They think it's equivalent to allowing an heroin addict to hit rock bottom before they are able to see the error of their ways, pick themselves up, and begin again.

It makes about as much sense as someone burning down their house (and all their belongings, and their pets) because the house needed some fixing-up and repairs.

Feh! I try to ignore the temper tantrums and vanity threats. They'll do as they please.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
26. thank youmfor remembering the pets
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:27 PM
Dec 2015

more people get broken up about losing their stuff over losing lives.

as to the op, i don't think it has to do with punishing the country as much as whether people have confidence in a particular candidate to make a real difference

while hrc would no doubt nominate prochoice judges, i worry that she would also nominate extremely business friendly and monsanto owned judges as well. and with the tpp looming, the business pov of the justices will be critical

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
17. and whose nominations are most likely to
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:24 AM
Dec 2015

Protect your 1st and 4th ammendment rights from government overreach

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
18. Does the ISDS laugh at our SCOTUS?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:43 AM
Dec 2015

How does the SCOTUS stop the WTO from fining the US billions for not changing our Country of Origin validly existing labeling laws?

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
28. HRC Is TOO Conservative for Me, But The Meme She Will Appoint New Scalias Is Absurd
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:31 PM
Dec 2015

Vote How You Wish, I Will Not Allow Fascists Like Trump Or Cruz Any Where Near The Court.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
30. HRC Is Merely The Soft Form Of Corporate Control - The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:36 PM
Dec 2015

Could care less if a D or a R is the president.

As long as the D or the R is their candidate, control by the Oligarchs, Corporations and Banks will continue unabated.

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
32. Is she a Nazi like Trump or a Crazy Christian like Cruz?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:45 PM
Dec 2015

You may not suffer the effects of Cruz but women, minorities, the elderly, American Muslims, and the poor will. The list goes on and on.

Again you should do as you wish.

I can tell you I want Bernie as President. I know Bernie will urge people to vote for the nominee if he does not win the primary. One of his arguments will be the importance of the Supreme Court.

Have a wonderful day, CBS!

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
36. Neither Bernie or MOM or HRC are "evil." I cannot say the same for the Republican candidates.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:58 PM
Dec 2015

"Lesser of two evils" is merely a figure of speech, describing the voters process of choosing the candidate who is closest in ideology to themselves.

I will never in my life enable a reactionary Republican to destroy us. I am confident Bernie will not enable that either

We will have to agree to disagree. Your vote is your right.

Gothmog

(145,242 posts)
41. The next POTUS could pick three or four SCOTUS justices
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:08 PM
Dec 2015

Which would affect the SCOTUS for a generation

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
39. Of course. If Rex the Wonder Dog was the Democratic candidate I'd be right behind him.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:25 PM
Dec 2015

As Sanders said last night, any of the three people on stage would be light years better than any of the GOPuke Clown Car Cavalcade.

By the way, Nader didn't cost us the election in 2000. The Supreme Court (with some cheerleading from the sidelines by Joe L) did.

Their dictate killed thousands and thousands of Americans and many, many more world wide.

I don't know how they can sleep at night.

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