2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary intends to continue choosing the flowers and china when POTUS
Why would she want to do that? She specifically said so when asked what Bill Clinton's role would be. She said that she would defer to him on areas where he has lots of presidential experience, and she would continue to choose the flowers and china as she did when she was First Lady.
WTH?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I don't think this debate did her any favors at all. When people start analyzing what was really said in the light of day and sobriety I don't think they will like what she said about working with brutal dictators.
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)in the light of day.
She was so arrogant & pushy in this debate, I'm sure many were turned off by her. Especially, independents.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I think she is afraid of something. I don't know what. But, she looked visibly upset when Bernie said independent investigation.
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)Guess she's use to bullying her way around & this is backfiring. Tsk.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)... along with her astrology chart, while I interpreted the entrails of a sacrificial goat.
Based on the aforementioned - along with the body-language aspect - I'd say her campaign is toast.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts):giggle:
840high
(17,196 posts)give Bernie a HUGE win in the debate.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)I think it's one of the more pressing issues we face as a nation: Should the first female POTUS choose flower arrangements and place-settings at official WH functions - or not?
I'm just happy to see these types of nitty-gritty, "kitchen table", important-to-all-Americans issues being discussed - like HRC's hairstyle and her debate outfits, et cetera.
The question becomes: Are we, as a nation, really ready for a president who doesn't have the "correct" hairdo, doesn't dress according to some people's taste, and will decide which china is used at state dinners?
Inquiring minds really DO want to know.
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)Another important issue.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)Extremely important. THIS is the kind of "issue discussion" that need to be addressed - well, on DU anyway.
southerncrone
(5,506 posts)Our country has no substantive base anymore. Too much attention given to the artificial/fake entities in our culture. Anything built on falsehoods will fall. We had better wake up.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)That's why I find OPs about the candidates' hairstyles, wardrobe, or who will choose the china when POTUS to be childish, extremely petty, and totally irrelevant.
DFW
(54,379 posts)Angela Merkel has managed to survive in office quite nicely without being Heidi Klum or Claudia Schiffer.
And I was just at the White House 9 days ago, browsing through the rooms where all the presidential china from the Washington administration onward was on display. I doubt the course of history will change if Hillary is elected and chooses her own china. Just think of it as an expansion of "a woman's right to choose," and move on.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)... that as an avid decorator in all of my own homes, you're damned real that if I were elected POTUS, I would absolutely insist on overseeing china settings and flower arrangements. It would take a Constitutional amendment to stop me from doing so.
I think Hill can handle the latest international crisis-de-jour AND choose the perfect soup tureens without missing a beat.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)for all seasons ...
Resolving crises and overseeing china settings - doing what most women do every day as a matter of course - albeit on a much larger stage.
DFW
(54,379 posts)I think you both would be perfectly capable of that degree of multi-tasking
silenttigersong
(957 posts)Sec.Clinton stated that Americans would perhaps be more understanding, if Widows and children had priority to immigrate.What ,isn't this sexist?Are there no peaceful male refugee s?I think this is a g gaffe.Profiling?Sorry this just baffles me.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)And it doesn't mean that "there are no peaceful male refugees".
What it means is a recognition that a certain segment of the American population will more readily "accept" widows, orphans and the elderly - so let's get THEM in first, because we can do so with a minimum of outrage from that certain segment of the population.
It's a smart move - and HRC isn't the only one who has suggested it. I've seen that same proposal from others on the topic - because it's common sense.
silenttigersong
(957 posts)It sounds as though she is appeasing people.Because why not males?
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)... are perceived by some as being "more likely" to be terrorists than widows, children, or the elderly.
So the idea is to let in the people who are - in some quarters - the "least objectionable" while that window of opportunity is open and they are less likely to be challenged.
silenttigersong
(957 posts)what country should offer refuge for male refugee 's?
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)The idea that only men are terrorists is now gone.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I rather suspect people on the White House staff, who are very good at this kind of thing, will be bringing two or three recommendations to someone on her staff. Then her staff will choose something and ask her if it's okay. If she has any particular yeanring for peonies that week, she'll request them.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)that Hillary can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Huma will go and pick out three options for Hillary to choose from, and then Hillary will spend about 2 minutes and 27 seconds making a decision. Crisis of having Bill choose the china averted.
Bernblu
(441 posts)Jane can then more purposeful first lady stuff. It'll be a win win for everyone and the country!
MADem
(135,425 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)I know that I can do only one thing at a time
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)And she KNOWS this.
Each First Spouse brings their own skillset to the table. It's not like they get paid for their time--they should at least pay them the minimum wage, IMO!!
It's not like she doesn't know the damn china after eight years on the job, either. I think Michelle Obama got a new set of luncheon ware, and Laura might have added some dinner dishes.
It's not hard to say "Use the Nancy Reagan Red stuff--that'll go over well since we're honoring the Chinese delegation" or something like that. She's not going to be poring over patterns for days.
WTH, indeed? Why CAN'T she do this? What would she do if she were a widow?
nenagh
(1,925 posts)"she would defer to him".... That's what I thought all along...so Bill's third term...
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)Go find that quote
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)The same reason many women do things like that.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Thanks.
Renew Deal
(81,859 posts)Because I didn't hear that.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)That she would come right out and admit that he would be in charge, or that an allegedly serious news person would ask an idiotic question like that.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I just got a bottle of Enjoli for Xmas.