MSNBC: Two more Sanders staffers suspended...

[brooklynite]

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New: Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver says 2 more staffers have been suspended today.

No fair jumping to conclusions.

[Kalidurga]

1. Good

He is handling it the way it should be handled. Do you wonder what happened to Hillary's people that read data that was sent to her campaign?

[JaneyVee]

4. Accusing others of wrong doing with no evidence...

Is not very "progressive".

[Kalidurga]

7. The evidence was in the lawsuit Bernie filed

go find it yourself since you like to accuse people so much.

[LuvLoogie]

19. Can you explain the incident? What happened?

Who was involved? There was an alusion to a previous incident, but there was no evidence or statement of fact, just a "Clinton did it in 2008" equivocation in the complaint.

So Please tell me what you are talking about?

[Kalidurga]

22. You figure it out

http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000151-b72f-d1ae-add5-f76f14db0001

[LuvLoogie]

25. This is all it says:

23) Upon information and belief, a similar security incident arose with the NGP VAN
software during the 2008 national presidential primaries, resulting in the unintentional
transmission of Confidential Information to the campaign of Democratic primary candidate
Hillary Clinton (the “Prior Incident”).

Case 1:15-cv-02211 Document 1 Filed 12/18/15 Page 5 of 11
NY_DOCS:607859.1 6

So either you have more details you know about, or the words in the complaint mean something to you beyond what they say.

[Renew Deal]

28. This article explains it pretty well

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1291833

[LuvLoogie]

29. Thanks, but I was inquiring as to what evidence of Clinton malfeasance

Kalidurga was referring. He linked to the complaint filed this this week, but there is no evidence or accounting of facts against Clinton stated, only an allusion to a 2008 incident. I have to ask Kalidurga how that is relevant to what Bernie's staffers did, or how that exonerates him.

But Kalidurga deleted his/her last response to me.

[pnwmom]

31. I haven't seen evidence that data was actually read. Where was that?

[JaneyVee]

2. Drip...drip....drip...

[napi21]

3. I'm not jumpong to any conclusions. Bernie said they were investigating, and

if other staffers were guilty in this data mess, they'd be gone. Where's the news here?

[jfern]

5. The DNC told the media what was going on before they told the Bernie campaign

[BlueCheese]

6. Very clever to announce this on a Saturday night, right after a big debate.

I'm being serious, not snarky about that. It shows political acumen.

[mythology]

10. It also kind of had to happen after Sanders said anybody else involved would be fired

Although they weren't actually fired, but it was known that multiple people had been involved. Only firing one created an ethical issue for the Sanders campaign.

If all of the people involved had been suspended/fired immediately and the Sanders campaign said "yeah we screwed up and here's how we're fixing it" this would have been a non issue.

[jfern]

14. I'm sure they'll be fired if they did anything wrong

They are suspended while the campaign figures that out. The DNC told the media what was going on before they told the Bernie campaign, so the DNC didn't exactly make it easy for the Bernie campaign.

[BlueCheese]

16. I very much believe Sanders did not know about these staffers' actions beforehand...

... and is genuinely personally disappointed at their behavior.

He simply does not strike me as the type of person to do these kinds of things.

[RandySF]

8. Suspended pending investigation means they're about to be fired.

Usually the suspension is about getting said employee out of a position to do damage. It also tells me that Bernie may be taking control of his campaign.

[Motown_Johnny]

9. This is turning into a good way to see how each candidate deals with a problem.

It isn't as if problems won't appear. They will and seeing how they are dealt with is important.

Hillary spent 5 months insisting that she would not turn over her server, until she did.

Bernie has fired one staffer, suspended 2 more, forced the DNC to back down on their withholding of voter information and is moving toward exposing exactly what happened. All within a few days.


Yes, this should not have happened. Guess what, stuff happens. Bernie deals with it. Hillary avoids it.

The contrast is even clearer than it had been before this happened.

[Douglas Carpenter]

30. +1000 -- Exactly!!

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. Obviously, Clinton is to blame!

Did you know that she's widely hated?

[Cha]

32. One does not simply blame Obama..

[livetohike]

34. LOL Cha

[Cha]

35. Hey livetohike!

I just got a hide for calling trump a birther.. I'm pissed.

[livetohike]

36. No way! Early in the morning here on the East

coast. Someone must be hungover .

[Cha]

37. Yeah, it sucks to have your fate in the hands of those who can't actually

tell what's going on around them.

[LexVegas]

12. I thought there was no harm done. nt

[jfern]

15. There was no harm done, but that won't save them from being fired

[Cha]

33. That's the story they're trying to push but it's not working.

[Dawson Leery]

13. Anyone involved in taking the data should be.

[R B Garr]

17. Donna Brazille said before the debate that there

may have been files deleted. That's pretty serious. So far we've seen age demographic searches, files downloaded and now possible sabotage of Clinton's files.

All that had to have been planned or thought out. That's why it's funny to see his supporters talking about "discovery". LOL. As far as I know, illegal activity is a bar to a breach of contract claim. The "lawsuit' was all more of his bluster anyway. Just more of his phoniness.

[madfloridian]

18. The vendor says that's not true.

http://blog.ngpvan.com/news/data-security-and-privacy

On Wednesday morning, there was a release of VAN code. Unfortunately, it contained a bug. For a brief window, the voter data that is always searchable across campaigns in VoteBuilder included client scores it should not have, on a specific part of the VAN system. So for voters that a user already had access to, that user was able to search by and view (but not export or save or act on) some attributes that came from another campaign.

[R B Garr]

20. Nice cherry picking.

[madfloridian]

21. The words of the vendor are cherry-picking.

Now I have heard it all.

[R B Garr]

23. Oh, I've heard it all, too.

There are more words than what you typed.

[joshcryer]

24. Good, I expect the lawsuit to be dropped soon, as well.

[Number23]

27. From your fingers to God's ears.

[Gothmog]

38. There needs to a full and complete accounting here