Why are we discussing Secretary Clinton's bathroom habits and wardrobe ?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Thank you in advance.


Happy holidays!

[LexVegas]

1. Fucking sexism. Yoko Ono was right. nt

[still_one]

9. you're right, it is very poor taste

[Starry Messenger]

2. Because she's winning.

[cwydro]

15. I think you hit the nail on the head.

I'm trashing both those silly threads.

[JaneyVee]

21. Ding ding ding! Winner!

[Codeine]

3. Because people suck

and think it's funny to be mean about women.

[fleur-de-lisa]

25. Yep. Sickening!

[Bonobo]

4. It's stupid. There are many good reasons to oppose Hillary. That's not one of them. nt

[elleng]

5. Thanks for the sanity.

And O'Malley's ears???

Schoolyard games here.

[fleur-de-lisa]

20. MOM is a really handsome man!

WTF is up with the remarks about his ears?

[elleng]

22. Yes he is, and I don't know!

[JaneyVee]

23. We can talk about his abs anytime though.

[Luminous Animal]

35. I like his elf ears. I meant no disparagement when I mentioned that.

I think elf ears are great. I wish more people had them. One of my best friends since grade school has them and I've always been envious.

[RKP5637]

6. It's ignorant, rude and sexist. It gives a bad impression of DU. Not funny at all. n/t

[fleur-de-lisa]

18. +1

[Dem2]

7. It's sad.

[bettyellen]

8. people are sexist, petty and desperate?

[davidn3600]

26. I'm willing to bet more women brought up her outfit than men

First thing my girlfriend said was "What is she wearing?"

Before that I wasn't even paying any attention to Hillary's attire whatsoever.

[bettyellen]

29. even women engage in petty sexist bullshit. yup.

[thesquanderer]

41. Women very often criticize other women's attire...

Does that necessarily make them sexist?

What if they similarly comment on mens' fashion choices as well?

[bettyellen]

42. It is unimportant, and more frequently aimed at women instead of discussing their professional

qualifications. When you are talking about a candidate's performance, it really has no place anymore.

[Warren Stupidity]

10. Sanders' excessive gesturing and apoplexy

is also ridiculed. It is all pretty crappy. humans are not nice people.

[Warren Stupidity]

12. Also O'Malley is an elf.

[Codeine]

27. Elves are cool.

+2 Dexterity and low-light vision are awesome

[femmocrat]

11. Because the debate is getting long and people are getting distracted?

Such as this stupid question by Raddatz about Bill as "first spouse" !!!

[UtahLib]

13. Petty minds. nt

[grossproffit]

14. Sadly, sexism is still acceptable even on a Democratic forum.

[Juicy_Bellows]

16. We got a couple of posters that might be better served staying away from the keyboard tonight.

That's my hope anyway, bad night for them - maybe they're drunk or angry or just having a real shitty day and lashing out.

That's what I hope.

[LittleBlue]

17. Because this debate is dull

There isn't much to talk about with mostly everyone agreeing with each other

On a lighter note, her jacket looks like something out of the Kanye collection.

[thesquanderer]

39. Or maybe the Ricardo collection

[NowSam]

19. Not okay

issues and integrity are what matters.

[peace13]

24. I think they were discussing timeliness...

....and disruptions. Consideration possibly?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. I presume it take a woman a bit longer in the bathroom.

Seems like simple anatomy combined with clothing.

[peace13]

32. I on the other hand see one woman on stage and presume ...

...she would have a restroom all to herself at break. I won't even bother to discuss the slow flow of many older men. My guess is that Sanders and the SOS are most evenly matched in the bathroom department.

[mcar]

28. Things that make you go hmm

[Hekate]

30. Because even so-called liberals can be sexist pigs. Thanks for asking.

[Luminous Animal]

33. Because some people cannot help themselves.

Personally, I am PISSED off that any DUer went there.

[JoePhilly]

34. Because she had another very strong debate.

And that gives some folks a sad.

[NV Whino]

36. Bad decision on ABC's part

Never shoot a woman from the rear.

Unless they are Lady Gaga or the like.

[restorefreedom]

37. the bathroom thing just makes abc look even worse

than they already did. they did a horrible job, and they know she was late during the previous debate. they couldn't have had an effing ten minute bathroom break? 5min is barely enough time even if you don't have to walk down the hall to get there.

as to the outfit, i honestly did not pay attention to what any of them wore and didn't care

[eppur_se_muova]

45. I was a little disappointed that Sanders didn't say ...

"Actually, I'd be more comfortable waiting for Sec. Clinton before continuing the discussion." Not a faux pas on his part -- frankly, he had more than enough on his mind at the time -- but it would have been a (pardon an old-fashioned term) gentlemanly gesture, and one that I think the moderators needed to see.

[restorefreedom]

48. actually if both men

had said "we should not continue until we are all here" it would have shown abc for the amateurs they were

[ljm2002]

38. She was late to a segment of the debate...

...no big surprise that it caused some discussion.

Dunno about the wardrobe, I guess because women have more leeway in what to wear they also have more pitfalls. For some reason people think it's okay to discuss what women wear more than what men wear.

[bigtree]

40. she made a bathroom joke at the October debate

Following the short break, CNN debate moderator Anderson Cooper said with a note of relief, “All the candidates all are back. Uh, which I’m very happy to see.”

The audience shared a laugh as Anderson continued, “It’s a long story. Let’s continue shall we?” adding, “Secretary Clinton, welcome back.”

Clinton, aware she was getting called out for not returning to the podium as quickly as her male competitors, delivered an off-the-cuff bathroom joke. “Well thank you, it does take me a little longer,” the Democratic frontrunner quipped. “That’s all I can say.”

read/watch: http://uinterview.com/news/hillary-clinton-makes-a-bathroom-joke-during-democratic-debate/

[Chan790]

43. I don't know.

I'm so obviously not a fan of Sec. Clinton, but even I think that's pedantic and strange.

Maybe less so the wardrobe; sometimes what politicians wear to campaign or debate is a matter of statement, but I don't think the candidates bathroom habits are a matter that would alter my vote.

More so, the conversation isn't even that interesting...it's not like she uses a Go Girl! (a specially-designed funnel that allows women to pee standing up.*) I'm not making fun of Sec. Clinton to say such a thing. (I hate that I have to say that constantly now) Using a FUD (female urination device) might again be something that is potentially a matter of statement...though I would probably think it odd in a turning-off sort of way if a candidate made such a declaration out of the blue. I'd be equally-discomfited if Sanders announced that he pees sitting down or if Martin O'Malley started discussing how having a bidet changed his life. I really just don't want to know about the bathroom habits of other people, my political candidates included.


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*-Because I know someone is going to ask me about them, I'm going to save me some time:
http://go-girl.com/

[MineralMan]

44. Because opportunistic misogyny. nt

[Joe the Revelator]

46. She's done the late from the bathroom thing twice. Its either obvious schtick...

....or poor time management. Either way, it was distracting and in line with her campaigns insistance that if it works once, it will work another 10 times. (May the Force be With You!!!)

[JTFrog]

56. Her aides had complained before hand about the distance to the ladies bathroom and the

amount of time alotted. Her staffers timed it before hand. It took one minute and forty five seconds just to walk the distance and one minute forty five seconds to walk back. To make matters worse, the staffer who was supposed to clear the way for her let someone in right before she got there.

But yea, the obvious reason really must be that she was just pulling some sort of "schtick".

ABC wouldn't budge on the schedule. They want everything planned to the last second. The poor time management was ABC's piss poor planning. I mean, god forbid they should have to air an extra 30 seconds of commercials or something.

So yea, maybe Clinton would have been wise to have just brought her own porta potty or just not washed her hands.

I can't believe the amount of ridiculous conspiracy theories that DU has cooked up over this. This place is toxic.

[Duckhunter935]

58. she could not go

With anyone else in the bathroom? I wonder if the men had to have that done. I would like to see the layout as most bathrooms are colocated due to the plumbing cost.

[Freddie Stubbs]

47. Because is is classist to discuss Sanders' ill fitting suits and poor elocution

[restorefreedom]

49. as a sanders/om supporter,

i have already made my thoughts on this clear in multiple threads. abc was mean and amateurish in sooooo many ways, this was just another. they are not ready to host events of this magnitude.

as to the wardrobe, i don't remember it, and don't care. i have a vague memory of the men wearing ties.

happy holodays to you, dsb!

[DesertRat]

50. Because she's a woman

Happy Winter Solstice!

[NCTraveler]

51. We are seeing what has been seething right under the...

Surface here for a while. Get ready for more as desperation increases. A poster was bragging about how they laugh a YouTube videos about Clintons cackle. They were very open that they wouldn't provide a link as it's not allowed here. What they were referencing not being allowed is sexism. They flaunt it that openly.

[RandySF]

52. Because some people are dumb, spiteful or a combination of both.

[John Poet]

53. But, what if Hillary is in the bathroom

when that 3 a.m. phone call of critical national importance comes in ??


;-D

[KansDem]

54. You have a point!

Imagine if the US came under attack and the POTUS was in the bathroom. The POTUS must leap into action! A male POTUS would be out in 5 minutes whereas a female POTUS might be out in 10 minutes. And when the US is under attack, every minute counts!!!

Oh, wait...



...never mind.

[Kalidurga]

55. Because it's easier to do that than find a transcript of the debate and quote mine.

And then talk about the issues around the quote. This is disgusting to me that so many people want to make this an issue. I think Hillary handled the situation extremely well. It's one of the few things she has done that I admire. And I wouldn't mind if she used her position to make this issue a dinner table issue. I have dealt with long lines and the pain of waiting and waiting and waiting. I have been in buildings where the ladies room is much farther from the action than the men's room sometimes even on a different floor. This is complete bullshit and it is often institutional. It is such an ubiquitous part of our culture that some people even think that jokes about it are appropriate.

As for Hillary's outfit I didn't really notice. I had to go and look at video to even know what the hell people were talking about. There was nothing about it that I found remarkable or comment worthy I guess again some people would rather talk about women taking too damn long going to the bathroom and wardrobe than issues like inequality and national security. But, if the kind of people who are damning Hillary for a bathroom break are in on those conversations I have little hope they have anything intelligent to add to the conversation.

[Armstead]

57. Because it's ridiculous, and sometimes DU is ridiculous