This is intended to be APOLITICAL: Hillary Clinton is fucking BRILLIANT

[Stinky The Clown]

We can argue policy, trustworthiness, suitability for office, but no one can argue that she is intelligent beyond compare. Listen to her in any debate and you have to be in awe at her command of facts, even the most arcane of them.

Lest you think this is a pro Clinton post, disabuse yourself of that. I will vote for Clinton OR Sanders, without reservation. Period.

[Tipperary]

1. She certainly is. Nt

[JaneyVee]

2. She's a genius.

[Plucketeer]

64. She'll walk on water soon

Right?

[reformist2]

3. And yet she hasn't learned that war begets more war. It makes things worse.

[BuelahWitch]

33. Oh she knows it

But it won't touch her, so she doesn't really give a crap. No empathy for those whose spouses, children and other relatives go to fight. It's damn good for defense contractors though, so it's A-OK!

[JonLeibowitz]

39. She actually thinks women are the primary victims of war.

Not those who ended up dying in a war she voted for.

She is repulsive and I refuse to vote for her for that reason among many others.

[lunamagica]

4. Her brillliance is just dazzling. What a brain! It a real peasure to listen to her speak.

[mcar]

5. K&R

[Hekate]

6. YES SIR SHE IS!

This is an extremely well moderated debate! With intelligent knowledgable candidates! Each one of who is head and shoulders above the entire Klown Kar Kadets of the GOP!

IM SO PROUD TO BE A DEMOCRAT TONIGHT.

[bigtree]

7. she has a pov, but 'brilliant' depends on your interpretation of the facts she offers

...filibustering with Obama admin policy comes off like a state dept. press conference. It's mind-numbing, and I think, deliberately so.

We get it, she's for the status quo and doesn't agree that we need to take a different direction in foreign policy.

[Gloria]

28. If you listen instead of do the knee jerk stuff

you might learn about how it takes time to put the nuts and bolts together, ie, her 2012 plan just getting traction now in 2015 at the U.N.

But Sanders....he's just going to TELL people what has to be done...He sounds like TRUMP....the same simplistic bellowing

[bigtree]

31. I actually follow foreign policy very closely

...not denying that it 'takes time,' but reasonable people can certainly disagree on the substance of Obama policy and Hillary's defense of those efforts.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

8. Yes - terrorism is bad bla bla bla

Reality - our own police have killed more of us in the last twenty
Terrorism is a problem we will deal with

Sanders is correct - Jobs - healthcare - banking - ENVIRONMENT
These are the issues that will have more direct impact on us


WAR WAR WAR - it is not the answer - It is not even the most important question

[NuclearDem]

15. Spam. Stop that, it's obnoxious.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

17. stalk much?

your agenda is clear

[ThePhilosopher04]

9. She's a master Bullshitter

which often captivates those who are easily hoodwinked by good acting.

[artislife]

13. Heh! nt

[Tipperary]

19. You deny she is intelligent?

That is just silly.

[AlbertCat]

61. which often captivates those who are easily hoodwinked by good acting.

That's good acting????

I don't believe any of it.

[MissDeeds]

63. Yes, but she's a brilliant bullshitter!

Brilliant!

Sweet Jesus it gets thick around here.

[truedelphi]

75. Yes, I must agree with you. Like Kucinich once said of

Kashkari, "We know you and your boss are smart and we know you both work very, very hard. But what we really need to know is this: just who is it you are working for?" (Kashkari worked for Paulson at the Treasury.) And most of us believe that duo worked for the Biggest of the Big Financial People.)

[stevenleser]

10. This is why she has won all the debates so far and why she will wipe out the GOP nominee. nt

[ismnotwasm]

16. Yup

And this one she's especially owning. Brilliant.

[liberalnarb]

38. She most certainly has not won all the debates so far.

But, may the force be with you anyways. eom.

[stevenleser]

40. She not only has won them, but by enormous margins. But please believe whatever makes you feel

better.

[liberalnarb]

42. According the polls taken by THE PEOPLE

That the media ignores. Bernie won by large margins.eom

[stevenleser]

43. At some point, you and others who have done this will be embarrassed that you did this.

Until the first Democratic debate this year, all of DU was unanimous that online polls were bullshit.

Guess what, they are still bullshit.

[liberalnarb]

45. How are they bullshit?

Bernie wins every time because the facts are on his side and he believes in what he is saying. And the American people know this.

[stevenleser]

47. Do you really need me to explain this? nt

[liberalnarb]

49. If your so much smarter than maybe I do. Educate me buddy.

[Ned_Devine]

46. Not a chance.

[Deny and Shred]

78. At some point you will be emabarrased you did this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251658816

The only things Hillary's experience seems to be good for is perfecting how to talk out of both sides of her mouth, engaging in the politics of personal destruction and other aspects of her ruthless pursuit of power that remind one of what a Karl Rove might do. That kind of person ought not to be the Democratic nominee.


Your words.

[MissDeeds]

65. Excellent!

Thanks for sharing that!

[artislife]

66. Ha!

[TheProgressive]

11. A master thief can also be intelligent beyond belief...

[AtomicKitten]

12. She can filibuster like a champ, but she doesn't answer the fucking question.

[EndElectoral]

14. How much time does each candidate get to speak in this debate?

[AtomicKitten]

22. She is out of control and refuses to comply with the moderators.

[JTFrog]

26. Stay classy.

You are leaving quite a mark here lately and it ain't pretty.

[AtomicKitten]

32. Wrote a song about it. Wanna hear it? Here goes.

[JTFrog]

35. Ah, Bless your little ol' heart. n/t

[artislife]

68. There was nothing in that post that was questionable.

Your response, however was heading to the edge.

[JTFrog]

74. Yes there was.....

She edited it out of course after I posted... but you go ahead with your silliness.

She is out of control and refuses to comply with the moderators. What a B-hole.

I'll hold my breath waiting for you to admit you were wrong.

[artislife]

76. I actually kind of want you to hold your breath.

But the post I saw was not offensive. I would not posted what I did if I had seen the original.

However. .it does seem like the poster thought better of it and amended. I guess we all are the better on the end.

[Gloria]

27. Bernie completely ignored answering how to

lower college costs....

BTW, his thing about more taxes on the middle class ....ages ago, this was brought up....so, it's out there now.

And, this bit about health care at the state level....Clinton is right.....with a GOP governor, what will happen to how health care dollars are spent??

She speaks reality....

[AtomicKitten]

30. He SPECIFICALLY said he would tax Wall Street to fund free college tuition

[JaneyVee]

41. And the middle class for everything else.

[AtomicKitten]

52. A minimal "tax" instead of insurance premiums, deductibles & ALL medical costs = good for EVERYONE.

[MADem]

18. I have heard many, many people--in DC and other places--say that of the two Clintons,

she is by far the smartest. No one is better at framing an argument, either.

[SunSeeker]

54. I recall Bill saying Hillary is smarter than him. nt

[MADem]

81. He admits it, too! nt

[Matariki]

20. "beyond compare" no.

Very intelligent, absolutely.

[Persondem]

21. Yep. She's a smart cookie. K & R nt

[workinclasszero]

23. She is brilliant

That's why many men in particular fear her.

Whole political parties of old white men fear her the most!

[Gloria]

24. SHe blew them away on foreign policy....

2 tracks, not one...

CHeckers vs. 3 dimensional chess...

The world is not as simple as Sanders wants it to be.....he is a one note song....

Critical thinking skills have to be employed, not just platitudes....

[tularetom]

25. If she's so fucking smart how come she bought Bush's bogus Iraq war rationalizations?

And I don't listen to her at all. She sounds like this to me.

[Ned_Devine]

37. Bingo!

[George II]

48. She didn't.

[MissDeeds]

67. Yeah, that was pretty pathetic

[SammyWinstonJack]

70. Good one.

[femmocrat]

29. She is so well-prepared.

No one can touch her on foreign policy expertise.

[99Forever]

34. Smart, yes. Trustworthy?

Not even close.

[cantbeserious]

36. HRC Is A Pawn Of the Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks That Pay For Her Campaign

eom

[George II]

44. She did an excellent job, and Sanders did a very good job. Sadly, O'Malley was an embarrassment.

[YOHABLO]

50. I don't think anyone doubts HRC brilliance.

[peace13]

58. That's a pretty bold statement...

....and out of courtesy I won't burst your bubble.

[artislife]

71. I do.

Meme destroyed.

[AuntPatsy]

51. Agree

[notadmblnd]

53. I wouldn't say brilliant

I do agree though that you can see in her face how deep she is in her mind.

[Kath1]

55. She is one brilliant and strong woman.

Very qualified to be POTUS!

[SunSeeker]

56. K & R

[glinda]

57. When you have far more time explain yourself it would make it

appear that way. I think if the others had more time we could have heard more detail.

[Vattel]

59. She is bright, but no genius

[elmac]

60. HRC did a great job tonight

though my preference is Sen. Sanders. All three did their party proud tonight. Very refreshing to see adults in charge instead of the republican brat debates. Who ever wins the primary I will be behind them 150%.

[Dawson Leery]

62. O'Malley too.

[gwheezie]

69. Hillary is brilliant

In fact all 3 of them were well versed in a variety of topics compared to the GOP debates. While I support HRC and with each debate I feel more confident in her becoming the next president, I would vote for either of the other 2 with no hesitation.

[man4allcats]

72. I am a Bernie supporter, but

I must say Hillary's intellect is amazing. It's been said before but bears repeating - Hillary's IQ is hot enough to fry eggs.

[Beacool]

73. Bill has always said that Hillary is smarter than him.

She is a hard worker who always does her homework and is prepared. We could do a lot worse than Hillary for president.

[modestybl]

77. We could also do a lot better...

HRC kept coming back to how everyone on stage was so much different than the Repubs... SHE needs to make the case that SHE is different ... Sanders and O Malley don't.

As for brilliance... she is just stuffed with carefully crafted, practiced and vetted talking points. She is an over-rehearsed student. She knows how to deflect uncomfortable questions, but Martha called her out on that more than once.

HRC produces a litany of carefully crafted answers designed to appeal to progressives without unsettling her donor base. That contributes to the sense of her being a political windsock.

Sanders doesn't have to rehearse or practice, he is just there with genuine answers. There is s shifty and a disingenuous quality to HRC's answers which explains her high untrustworthiness ratings. Again, she has to answer to a donor base that has different priorities than the people she is trying to persuade.

[Motown_Johnny]

79. A brilliant person would not make the mistakes she has.

Sorry.

The Iraq war speech and vote were not the acts of a brilliant person.

Being in the bottom 47% when it comes to marriage equality is the opposite of brilliant.

Insisting for 5 months that she would not turn over her server when it was obvious that she would have no other choice was not brilliant.

Spending weeks insisting that she had run with her head down from snipers in Bosnia was much closer to insane than it was brilliant.


Yes, she can argue well. She is a trained lawyer, that is what they do. That does not make her brilliant.


I'm not that impressed.

Lest you think this is an anti-Clinton post, disabuse yourself of that. I will vote for Clinton or Sanders or O'Malley without reservation. Period.

[oasis]

80. If Hillary is not brilliant, then no one is. nt

[Cha]

82. Wow, thank you, STC.. I agree.

[Fumesucker]

83. Some of the smartest people I know are not good verbal communicators

Hillary is a brilliant bullshit artist, an outstanding verbal communicator but I'm not sure how much I actually respect her intellect, she has made at least one extremely consequential decision where I was screaming "The calls are coming from inside the house!!!"..

[Gothmog]

84. Hillary Clinton is very very bright

[femmedem]

85. She is indeed very smart. Great mental acuity, knows her facts.

Very few people can speak off the cuff in high pressure situations as well as she does.

I'm just not sure if she's as wise as she is smart.