2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWho voted for the Border Fence
Last edited Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:17 PM - Edit history (1)
(aka the Wall) along the Mexican Border.
Bernie voted yes
Clinton voted no
http://votesmart.org/bill/5691/15967/27110/border-fence-and-customs-appropriations#.VnWSuRUrI2w
http://votesmart.org/bill/6463/17865/55463/immigration-enforcement-and-border-fence-amendment#.VnWTHhUrI2w
Oops, more than one vote in favor of the border fence: http://votesmart.org/bill/4585/14540/27110/border-fence-and-customs-appropriations#.VnWUxxUrI2w
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/40/immigration#.VnWU7hUrI2y
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/55463/hillary-clinton/40/immigration#.VnWVGxUrI2xe S
ETA: Bernie did vote against the Secure Fence Act of 2006 and another in 2013, while supporting two amendments listed above. Here is his full voting history on immigration. http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/40/immigration#.VnWaORUrI2z
and Clinton's: http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/55463/hillary-clinton/40/immigration#.VnWVGxUrI2x
LexVegas
(6,073 posts)Leftyforever
(317 posts)Bernie voted against the fence....what you are citing is an amendment that set spending for border guards and other various security measures at the border... Bernie is clearly on record opposing the building of the wall
source: politifact.com
2006 border fence legislation
Clinton and Sanders cast opposing votes on the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was introduced to improve security along the United States land and sea borders. Clinton, along with then-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, voted in favor of the bill.
Sanders voted against it alongside 137 of his colleagues in the House. The bill was signed into law by President Bush on Oct. 26, 2006, but was never fully funded.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2015/sep/02/11-examples-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-hol/
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)It's right there in the OP.
Bernie supported that amendment.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)As the poster states, he did vote against the fence at one point, but those links above show votes for.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)and several votes listing votes for border fence and appropriations. I admit to being confused here. I need more coffee to figule this out. I certainly do not intend to mislead. There are several different bills listed.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Bernie sees the importance of securing the border, but is opposed to building a fence to do so, and has voted repeatedly against legislation that would build such a barrier. Bernie has supported legislation which would have increased border patrol operations while simultaneously providing a path to legal status for undocumented immigrants. Bernie does not support an open borders policy, preferring to focus on a path to citizenship for immigrants already in the United States.
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-immigration/#border-security
http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Bernie_Sanders_Immigration.htm
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)for the fence amendments listed above. There have been several different bills. The links above show the votes. Perhaps there is some other reason for his vote, but he did cast them.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)We got to do several things and I am adamantly against illegal immigrants, Clinton said during the interview. Certainly, weve got to do more at our borders, and people have to stop hiring illegal immigrants.
Come up to Westchester, go to Suffolk and Nassau counties, Clinton continued. Stand in the street corners in Brooklyn or the Bronx. Youre going to see loads of people waiting to get picked up to get yard work, and construction work, and domestic work.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 19, 2015, 04:16 PM - Edit history (1)
I doubt you'll find any politician who says they are for "illegal immigration," and certainty not Bernie. While it might to fun to dig up random quotes without source or attribution, voting records say far more.
As for flip flopping, perhaps you can explain why Bernie voted for the border fence amendments in some of the bills above and against the Secure Fence Act of 2006?
His votes against immigration reform, however, have been consistent. I don't see a single vote for a comprehensive immigration reform.
http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/40/immigration#.VnWaORUrI2z
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)her own words then.....
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)When Hillary was registering Hispanic voters decades ago, what was Sanders doing?
There's a reason Latin support is overwhelmingly for Hillary