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That data was dressed too sexily to be ignored. (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2015 OP
Damned tootin Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #1
Man catnhatnh Dec 2015 #2
I am undecided between Sanders and HRC. HOWEVER Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #26
Right back at you. NowSam Dec 2015 #52
Nicely played! Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #60
Thank you. NowSam Dec 2015 #62
Hard to believe treestar Dec 2015 #3
Actually, Bernie did nothing. MineralMan Dec 2015 #8
+1 Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #28
Bernie's staffers then treestar Dec 2015 #30
And now, we're reducing rape to accessing data via a long term data breach by someone else. merrily Dec 2015 #4
Nope. We're likening theft of date to rape. MineralMan Dec 2015 #5
A distinction without a difference. Mega false comparison. Epic Fail. Disgusting. merrily Dec 2015 #7
It is called a simile or metaphor treestar Dec 2015 #31
See you all in court. PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #6
The court case is moot. MineralMan Dec 2015 #11
Not moot, unless dismissed. There were other claims, like damage to reputation. merrily Dec 2015 #14
Yah, OK, then... MineralMan Dec 2015 #18
Either take that advice or continue exposing how little you know about law. Up to you, really. merrily Dec 2015 #20
You are not in my shoes, though, are you? MineralMan Dec 2015 #24
No, I'm not, thank whatever gods that be. Good backpedal, though. I'll give you that! Except... merrily Dec 2015 #27
LOL treestar Dec 2015 #33
There are a lot worse cases of that treestar Dec 2015 #32
Word salad? merrily Dec 2015 #34
I am ashamed to say that I, myself, had impure thoughts about the data. randome Dec 2015 #9
Confession is good for the soul. MineralMan Dec 2015 #13
The exact argument some are making. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #10
What an offensive comparison. n/t demmiblue Dec 2015 #12
I know, right? It's been pointed out to him, too, he tried to defend it. Should have self-deleted. merrily Dec 2015 #16
Trust you to liken this to rape. Sickening. cali Dec 2015 #15
+1 merrily Dec 2015 #17
I laughed at the child/loaded gun comparison because it was so ridiculous, but this... demmiblue Dec 2015 #21
It's called a metaphor treestar Dec 2015 #36
Then vilify the victim for the weakness. seabeyond Dec 2015 #19
Look at seabeyond, the feminist, joining in the odious comparison. My, my, my. merrily Dec 2015 #22
As a feminist, you might ask yourself why a man would stay quiet while his people vilify the victm. seabeyond Dec 2015 #23
As a feminist, I object to trivializing rape this way. Why are you joining in that? merrily Dec 2015 #35
No one is trivializing rape People are trivializin theft and victim blaming. Vilifying the victim. seabeyond Dec 2015 #39
bullshit. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #57
Uh hu. seabeyond Dec 2015 #58
whatever sea. you bore me. your way or the highway. I take the road less travelled. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #59
O.k. seabeyond Dec 2015 #61
Yes. My point, exactly. MineralMan Dec 2015 #25
"Clearly I am comparing only victim blaming in this post." Gotta find a way to shift blame though, seabeyond Dec 2015 #29
And you chose to trivialize rape to condemn alleged victim blaming. merrily Dec 2015 #37
yep. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #40
He hasn't even apologized? Rose Siding Dec 2015 #42
Not as far as I know. I don't think he's made any statement. MineralMan Dec 2015 #44
I find this analogy to be gross. Wrong and gross. Honestly, I thought better of you than this. n/t Hiraeth Dec 2015 #38
A disturbing, but apt analogy. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #41
Victim blaming is what it is. MineralMan Dec 2015 #45
bullshit. rape vs. this. wrong. so fucking wrong. This OP makes me sick. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #47
I heard it had a standard deviation, and a wide variance ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #43
oh my. you went there! Hiraeth Dec 2015 #46
I've taken a lot of statistics over the years ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #48
The macabre laughter and gallows humor albeit this is a serious subject and I have put the OP on Hiraeth Dec 2015 #49
In all seriousness ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #51
Having worked in the medical field for some time now, part of that in an ER ... I get it. - Hiraeth Dec 2015 #53
Silly is my specialty!!! JoePhilly Dec 2015 #54
rape culture is real.... mineralman wtf. nt retrowire Dec 2015 #50
I was WAITING JackInGreen Dec 2015 #55
A fucking rape joke?? "Oh she was asking for it"?? Fearless Dec 2015 #56
That defense is the best that they have Gothmog Dec 2015 #63

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
2. Man
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:58 AM
Dec 2015

It seems like just yesterday you were toddling around pretending to be undecided....They grow up (and twisted) so fast!

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
26. I am undecided between Sanders and HRC. HOWEVER
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:30 PM
Dec 2015

I find DU Sanders supporters to be intolerable.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. Hard to believe
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 11:58 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:35 PM - Edit history (1)

people are abandoning basic principles just to defend Bernie staffers because they are part of his campaign.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. Actually, Bernie did nothing.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:09 PM
Dec 2015

It was staffers. I'm guessing Bernie Sanders is pretty pissed off about it, too. He's made no comment on this, as far as I know. We'll hear more about how he feels tonight, I think.

I'm betting others lose their jobs, in the end, over this.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. Nope. We're likening theft of date to rape.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:06 PM
Dec 2015

Actually, it's just me who is doing that, and sarcastically, at that. It's all about victim blaming, you see. I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear enough for you.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. A distinction without a difference. Mega false comparison. Epic Fail. Disgusting.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:08 PM
Dec 2015

Your OP trivializes rape and is nauseating.

Also nauseating, the lengths you will go to in order to smear Sanders, whom you once claimed to support.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. The court case is moot.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:09 PM
Dec 2015

Access to the national data has already been restored, which is what the suit demanded.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. Not moot, unless dismissed. There were other claims, like damage to reputation.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:13 PM
Dec 2015

You should stop attempting to play lawyer. Every time I've seen you do it, you only expose how little you know about legal matters and embarrass yourself.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
20. Either take that advice or continue exposing how little you know about law. Up to you, really.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:16 PM
Dec 2015

In your shoes, I'd stop.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
24. You are not in my shoes, though, are you?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:22 PM
Dec 2015

Here's something to consider, though: The Sanders campaign will withdraw their suit next week. That's my prediction. If they do not, it will be dismissed.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
27. No, I'm not, thank whatever gods that be. Good backpedal, though. I'll give you that! Except...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:30 PM
Dec 2015

The court is not going to dismiss the case without the participation of the plaintiff. I keep trying to warn you off bs ing about law. Please listen.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. I am ashamed to say that I, myself, had impure thoughts about the data.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:09 PM
Dec 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

merrily

(45,251 posts)
16. I know, right? It's been pointed out to him, too, he tried to defend it. Should have self-deleted.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:14 PM
Dec 2015

Disgusting.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
23. As a feminist, you might ask yourself why a man would stay quiet while his people vilify the victm.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:21 PM
Dec 2015
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
39. No one is trivializing rape People are trivializin theft and victim blaming. Vilifying the victim.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:41 PM
Dec 2015

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
59. whatever sea. you bore me. your way or the highway. I take the road less travelled.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:20 PM
Dec 2015

You stay on your mainstream super duper highway. Watch for traffic.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. Yes. My point, exactly.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:27 PM
Dec 2015

As far as I know, Bernie Sanders has yet to say anything personally about this incident. I could be mistaken, since I have't gone searching this morning, but nobody has posted his comments that I've seen. I'm sure he'll have something to say tonight, though. I'll be watching the debate closely, as always.

Clearly I am comparing only victim blaming in this post. Rape is a far more heinous crime than peeking into someone else's data, of course. In both cases, though, there is a victim and a perpetrator. Blaming the victim is such a commonplace that the comparison is a natural one.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
29. "Clearly I am comparing only victim blaming in this post." Gotta find a way to shift blame though,
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:31 PM
Dec 2015

Regardless how clear it is what you are saying.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
42. He hasn't even apologized?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:45 PM
Dec 2015

Hard to maintain the high moral ground if he won't acknowledge his responsibility for his employees. He could afford a little graciousness here.

And I find the victim blaming comparison apt.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
44. Not as far as I know. I don't think he's made any statement.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:01 PM
Dec 2015

If he has, I hope someone will link to it.

It will come up in the debate. Maybe he's waiting for that to make a statement. It should be interesting.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
41. A disturbing, but apt analogy.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:44 PM
Dec 2015

It has obviously touched a nerve based on the discomfort expressed throughout. You've held up a large mirror and people don't like what they see ... so they blame the mirror or the person holding it.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
45. Victim blaming is what it is.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:04 PM
Dec 2015

There's too much of it, and it's always an ugly approach to anything. Is it a disturbing analogy? Of course it is. I drew the comparison deliberately, since everyone here agrees that it is wrong when it comes to cases of rape. In other circumstances, though, apparently it's OK to blame the victim.

I see that as hypocritical, hence my post.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
43. I heard it had a standard deviation, and a wide variance ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:49 PM
Dec 2015

... so you know some one was going to manipulate it.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
48. I've taken a lot of statistics over the years ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:06 PM
Dec 2015

... if you know what I mean!!



Thank you, I'm hear all week, try the veal.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
49. The macabre laughter and gallows humor albeit this is a serious subject and I have put the OP on
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:08 PM
Dec 2015

ignore. but .... really .... I had to laugh with your remark. Irreverent as it is ... it just shows how wrong is the OP. Thank you

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
51. In all seriousness ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:13 PM
Dec 2015

... as a teen I worked in a cemetery. And I serviced a few thousand funerals. And I laughed more during that job than at probably any other.

And I think from that I learned to find the humor in almost any situation.

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
53. Having worked in the medical field for some time now, part of that in an ER ... I get it. -
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:15 PM
Dec 2015

Fine line and the OP crossed it but, then you just HAD to go that one step further ... and it got silly. Thanks

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
55. I was WAITING
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:16 PM
Dec 2015

For the harrasement/rape metaphor to filthy the accusations further. I'm disappointed it was from you MM.

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