2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs there anything HRC needed less than she needed a new IS flap?
1) Recalling attention to her own email issues -- trivial as I believe they are.
2) Reinforcing the widespread impression that she will always take whatever side is to her short-run advantage -- an impression I trust is false. I'm a trusting guy.
With a friend like DWS Hillary doesn't need an enemy. And Heaven knows she has plenty of those.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)The Sanders campaign had to actually fire one of it's top advisors,that's not a good thing by any stretch of the imagination.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)1) Bernie's donations in the past 24 hours were through the roof.
2) Her facebook and twitter pages are jammed up with people expressing their anger/distrust at both the DNC and her.
3) It highlights the cronyism behind the scenes between the DNC and the Hillary Campaign. Even people not paying attention get it.
4) People are going to hammer home that her campaign in 2008 had the same problem, and then their outrage will look even more foolish
I'm sure there are many many more conceivable ways this hurts her. The only one who benefits is Bernie, this is going to help galvanize his base and bring in new voters, and get him an influx of cash.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)That's what counts.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)She was expecting it. After all, Bernie supporters did the same thing to John Lewis, Jane Goodall and other prominent people, so what else is new? You do understand that Hillary's donations went through the roof as well, right? But see, here is the difference. Hillary's staffers didn't have to steal data from Bernie to get those donations.
rogerashton
(3,920 posts)It certainly did hurt Bernie. It hurt the Democratic Party. But the fact that it hurt Bernie doesn't mean that it helped Hillary. That's Trump thinking!
When I was in grade school I was a member of Barry's Gang. We ruled, and Barry ruled us. One day when Barry and I were alone on the north side of the school, Barry decided to beat me up. Just to make a point. Well, I was never much of a fighter, but I was a little bigger and stronger, and I had him down with his arm twisted under him. He told me something he thought I needed to know. "You don't have to hurt the other guy more than he hurts you. You just have to hurt him more than he is willing to be hurt." Probably advice his dad gave him. Barry came up with those nuggets now and then. Anyway, he was telling me that although I was hurting him more than he was hurting me, he was not going to give in. No big deal to me. We called it a draw and I went back to being his daytime consiglieri.
Trump seems to know what Barry told me. DWS seemingly does not. Which makes her what? Trump without the shrewdness?
This affair hurt everybody. That is a lesson Hillary's supporters, a gang I may join in a few months, need to learn.
awake
(3,226 posts)I have been on the fence and yesterday's events caused me to rethink if I could vote for HRC do to the actions by The DNC and DWS ( thanks to a poster on this site pointing out it was the DNC not HRC who fucked up I still my go for HRC in the end) The point is HRC can be hurt by actions of others like DWS.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I also think it will have little effect on Bernie.
livetohike
(22,147 posts)working hard to spread this meme. a leader would acknowledge the "mistake" instead of playing the victim and whining all the way to court.
demwing
(16,916 posts)which would make more sense, since that's what happened
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Her and her cronies just can't seem to stop themselves.