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rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:20 AM Dec 2015

Is there anything HRC needed less than she needed a new IS flap?

1) Recalling attention to her own email issues -- trivial as I believe they are.

2) Reinforcing the widespread impression that she will always take whatever side is to her short-run advantage -- an impression I trust is false. I'm a trusting guy.

With a friend like DWS Hillary doesn't need an enemy. And Heaven knows she has plenty of those.

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Is there anything HRC needed less than she needed a new IS flap? (Original Post) rogerashton Dec 2015 OP
In no conceivable way does this hurt Hillary. sufrommich Dec 2015 #1
Here are a few very conceivable ways: bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #2
Watch the polls in the coming weeks.nt sufrommich Dec 2015 #4
Nah, I'll just wait till the voting is done. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #6
Yes, we heard all about the nasty posts to Hillary's FB page. leftofcool Dec 2015 #12
We agree, in part. rogerashton Dec 2015 #8
Not everyone has made up their mind yet awake Dec 2015 #9
Yeah ok. Bernie's done. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #3
I don't think this data situation will hurt HRC bigwillq Dec 2015 #5
This doesn't hurt Hillary Clinton. Guess the Sanders team is livetohike Dec 2015 #7
I thought you wrote "winning all the way to court" demwing Dec 2015 #11
Wrong! This in no way hurts Hillary. leftofcool Dec 2015 #10
Unforced errors are a Hillary Clinton mainstay. 99Forever Dec 2015 #13
Yep! fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #14

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
1. In no conceivable way does this hurt Hillary.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:23 AM
Dec 2015

The Sanders campaign had to actually fire one of it's top advisors,that's not a good thing by any stretch of the imagination.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
2. Here are a few very conceivable ways:
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:30 AM
Dec 2015

1) Bernie's donations in the past 24 hours were through the roof.
2) Her facebook and twitter pages are jammed up with people expressing their anger/distrust at both the DNC and her.
3) It highlights the cronyism behind the scenes between the DNC and the Hillary Campaign. Even people not paying attention get it.
4) People are going to hammer home that her campaign in 2008 had the same problem, and then their outrage will look even more foolish

I'm sure there are many many more conceivable ways this hurts her. The only one who benefits is Bernie, this is going to help galvanize his base and bring in new voters, and get him an influx of cash.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
12. Yes, we heard all about the nasty posts to Hillary's FB page.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:51 AM
Dec 2015

She was expecting it. After all, Bernie supporters did the same thing to John Lewis, Jane Goodall and other prominent people, so what else is new? You do understand that Hillary's donations went through the roof as well, right? But see, here is the difference. Hillary's staffers didn't have to steal data from Bernie to get those donations.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
8. We agree, in part.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:39 AM
Dec 2015

It certainly did hurt Bernie. It hurt the Democratic Party. But the fact that it hurt Bernie doesn't mean that it helped Hillary. That's Trump thinking!

When I was in grade school I was a member of Barry's Gang. We ruled, and Barry ruled us. One day when Barry and I were alone on the north side of the school, Barry decided to beat me up. Just to make a point. Well, I was never much of a fighter, but I was a little bigger and stronger, and I had him down with his arm twisted under him. He told me something he thought I needed to know. "You don't have to hurt the other guy more than he hurts you. You just have to hurt him more than he is willing to be hurt." Probably advice his dad gave him. Barry came up with those nuggets now and then. Anyway, he was telling me that although I was hurting him more than he was hurting me, he was not going to give in. No big deal to me. We called it a draw and I went back to being his daytime consiglieri.

Trump seems to know what Barry told me. DWS seemingly does not. Which makes her what? Trump without the shrewdness?

This affair hurt everybody. That is a lesson Hillary's supporters, a gang I may join in a few months, need to learn.

awake

(3,226 posts)
9. Not everyone has made up their mind yet
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:43 AM
Dec 2015

I have been on the fence and yesterday's events caused me to rethink if I could vote for HRC do to the actions by The DNC and DWS ( thanks to a poster on this site pointing out it was the DNC not HRC who fucked up I still my go for HRC in the end) The point is HRC can be hurt by actions of others like DWS.

livetohike

(22,147 posts)
7. This doesn't hurt Hillary Clinton. Guess the Sanders team is
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:36 AM
Dec 2015

working hard to spread this meme. a leader would acknowledge the "mistake" instead of playing the victim and whining all the way to court.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
11. I thought you wrote "winning all the way to court"
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 08:48 AM
Dec 2015

which would make more sense, since that's what happened

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
13. Unforced errors are a Hillary Clinton mainstay.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 09:05 AM
Dec 2015

Her and her cronies just can't seem to stop themselves.

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