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AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:08 PM Dec 2015

DWS/Hillary won't get this Genie back in the bottle

They really screwed the pooch on this one. It's pretty obvious that DWS saw herself as invincible, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Now they will get swallowed up in the aftermath.

How long before its obvious the damage done, and DWS/Hillary start furiously backpedàling trying to get the Genie back in the bottle? I say sooner than later. DWS's uncharacharistically blinky, nervous 'Statement' and Hillary's classless call for blood tell all what's really going on.

All the kings horses and all the kings men...

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DWS/Hillary won't get this Genie back in the bottle (Original Post) AgingAmerican Dec 2015 OP
What exactly did Hillary do wrong here? Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #1
You mean DWS/Hillary? AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #5
You didn't answer my question Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #13
You obviously don't understand the dynamics of what's happening here AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #17
Yeah we do Sanders campaign stole the data and now plays the victim card.... Historic NY Dec 2015 #30
Bernie stole nothing. His campaign accessed data. retrowire Dec 2015 #50
You can't win on the issues... and your candidates integrity fails to compare to Bernie... Leftyforever Dec 2015 #59
Come on, you honestly think Hillary can't be connected with this? Flying Squirrel Dec 2015 #47
Ask Trey Gowdy to start an investigation on what Hillary knew and when she knew it. LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #57
So corruption should be ignored... AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #71
Deflection is blaming Hillary for the unethical lifting of her campaign data by Sanders operatives. LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #76
absolute power corrupts absolutely questionseverything Dec 2015 #16
She was victimized. MoonRiver Dec 2015 #6
When the... MrWendel Dec 2015 #7
orchestrated this whole mess Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #25
I think the evidence indicates that DWS's DNC used a software error to sabotage Sanders Campaign. Todays_Illusion Dec 2015 #75
DNClinton hired a Clinton crony to give themselves 100% free access to Sanders' data. mhatrw Dec 2015 #77
So.....what did Hillary do wrong exactly? nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #78
I thought she was unusually blinky too notadmblnd Dec 2015 #2
I turned her off - did Chris let her get by with the bull? jwirr Dec 2015 #53
I saw her on chuck Todds show notadmblnd Dec 2015 #55
The Sanders campaign steals data so it's Hillary's fault MohRokTah Dec 2015 #3
Its Trump logic. MrWendel Dec 2015 #8
You can tell what orders come down from above AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #12
Yep, that Sanders campaign sure got the marching orders out fast. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #15
Stole! Steal! Steal! Stole! AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #26
Seriously, it's so transparent it's hysterical Matariki Dec 2015 #24
The Sanders campaign did this KingFlorez Dec 2015 #4
What about the campaign who accessed Sanders data last October? Jarqui Dec 2015 #27
That's why Sanders campaign is calling forma FULL AUDIT AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #34
Yes, the Sanders campaign beat the machine back, and that was a fucking warning. A shot across the Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #60
Un-fucking believable. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #9
Unproven allegation = shut down opposition campaign AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #37
Learn about database admin before you look even less informed. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #61
Lol, well said. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #72
It's over for Ole Hill ... ThePhilosopher04 Dec 2015 #10
Well, you're a tad late with that prediction. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #29
Truth hurts. Hepburn Dec 2015 #36
Yes, it does. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #39
Yes, it does. This latest stunt by Hil and DWS has turned off many of the Dems she needs. Hepburn Dec 2015 #40
Name them. NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #42
Here are a few of them: Hepburn Dec 2015 #43
FaceBook? NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #56
Well, you're a big talker...go over there and set those face/palm people straight! Hepburn Dec 2015 #58
I don't think FaceBook ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #66
This stunt puts it in cement ... ThePhilosopher04 Dec 2015 #38
What "stunt" is that? NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #41
She has taken a HUGE hit on her facebook page... Hepburn Dec 2015 #44
And what could be a more accurate reflection ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #45
Keep whistlin' past the graveyard, Nance. You are better than this kind of reply... Hepburn Dec 2015 #46
No need for me ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #49
Wow... Hepburn Dec 2015 #51
I remember Will Pitt asking her the same question. BeanMusical Dec 2015 #74
You mean inacturate polls Duckfan Dec 2015 #64
But funnily enough ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #67
And according to Hillary fans she had 2008 locked up in October! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #63
Well, first off ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #69
You have lost track of what a democrat is. But that is your right. Nt Logical Dec 2015 #70
Well, according to the polls ... NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #73
I have no doubt Hillary could have walked to the nomination if she played fair from the get-go. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #62
The Clinton campaign has done nothing to backpedal. RandySF Dec 2015 #11
It's manna from heaven AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #14
What cat? RandySF Dec 2015 #18
Just watch it unfold! AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #20
Yeah I told Bernie Kalidurga Dec 2015 #22
I thought she was reasonable, clear and concise. moobu2 Dec 2015 #19
You left out 'uncharacteristically blinky'! AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #21
Time to buy tin foil stock. Persondem Dec 2015 #23
I was thinking Nixonian.... mike_c Dec 2015 #28
Some here have truly lost it. Metric System Dec 2015 #31
I am sure you will get better soon. How badly did you lose it? Hepburn Dec 2015 #35
Insular myopia LuvLoogie Dec 2015 #54
Yup silenttigersong Dec 2015 #32
I love the Discovery channel, don't you? Oilwellian Dec 2015 #33
I at least expected a big, "Cut it out"! from Hillary. jalan48 Dec 2015 #48
You asked how long before they try putting the genie back jwirr Dec 2015 #52
And so easily predictible! AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #68
Maybe we can talk DU admin to start issuing straight jackets. Duckfan Dec 2015 #65
"DWS's uncharacharistically blinky, nervous 'Statement'"... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #79
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
5. You mean DWS/Hillary?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:15 PM
Dec 2015

Too late, cats out if the bag. Genie won't go back into the bottle. Soon you will fully understand the I implications of DWS/Hillary's taking it a bridge too far.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
13. You didn't answer my question
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:18 PM
Dec 2015

You said Hillary "screwed the pooch on this one."

What exactly did Hillary do wrong?

Wasn't it the Sanders campaign who accessed Hillary's voter data?

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
50. Bernie stole nothing. His campaign accessed data.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:41 AM
Dec 2015

I mean, if you're going to make a statement, at least be honest.

 

Leftyforever

(317 posts)
59. You can't win on the issues... and your candidates integrity fails to compare to Bernie...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:59 AM
Dec 2015

so you are left to use tactics such as this....Hyperbolic arguments.... "stole the data"..."victim card" It's cheap and republican like. Hope this media stunt backfires in your and DWS's face...

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
47. Come on, you honestly think Hillary can't be connected with this?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:34 AM
Dec 2015

Even if no coordination can be proven, this will damage her. It's an open secret that DWS is in the tank for her, so the blowback from this affects Hillary no matter what. What did she do? It's what she didn't do. She didn't talk to her friend and say, hey don't worry about me, do your job the way you would if it were any other candidate instead of me, keep the playing field level and do what's best for the party.

questionseverything

(9,656 posts)
16. absolute power corrupts absolutely
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:20 PM
Dec 2015

truer words were never spoken...i think that is why the founders decided on the checks and balances the Constitution calls for

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
25. orchestrated this whole mess
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:29 PM
Dec 2015

Set her surrogates in motion, tried to slime a good man and wreck his campaign...

You know, just for starters.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
77. DNClinton hired a Clinton crony to give themselves 100% free access to Sanders' data.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:21 PM
Dec 2015

When Sanders' IT team innocently tried to investigate the security breach feature in the DNClinton's Cronyforce software, the DWS tried to make a huge scandal out it.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
2. I thought she was unusually blinky too
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:12 PM
Dec 2015

were you watching her on MSNBC earlier? She kept coughing too, which led me to think she's a heavy smoker. Do you know if that's another nervous tic?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
55. I saw her on chuck Todds show
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:50 AM
Dec 2015

I might have been outside with the dog when tweety talked about it because there's noting that I can recall that he said that got any of my attention.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
3. The Sanders campaign steals data so it's Hillary's fault
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:14 PM
Dec 2015

This is more like Bizzaro world than Republican logic.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
12. You can tell what orders come down from above
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:18 PM
Dec 2015

By the buzz words they all suddenly use in unison. No matter, no amount of worming and squirming on internet forums will stop the unstoppable.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
26. Stole! Steal! Steal! Stole!
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:30 PM
Dec 2015

Stole! Steal! Steal! Stole Stole! Steal! Steal! Stole! Stole! Steal! Steal! Stole!

Any publicity is good publicity!

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
4. The Sanders campaign did this
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:15 PM
Dec 2015

If they had not accessed data that did not belong to them, this would not be an issue right now.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
27. What about the campaign who accessed Sanders data last October?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:36 PM
Dec 2015

Where was the media for that? Oh, Sanders didn't leak it ... like someone else did today

Where are the assurances the Clinton campaign seeks today for Sanders last October? Pure mindless hypocrisy.

Where is the audit Sanders should have got last October that the DNC is demanding now? More mindless double standard hypocrisy

And October wasn't the only breach of Sanders data.

You know what this sham suggests to me, on top of all the other scandals Hillary's messed up in right now, Hillary is too friggin' stupid to run America. Like the Clinton years, it would just be one thing after another after another. And for the folks that say "they're just out to get Hillary", the funny part about that claim is they're always after her for something Hillary has done. It would one big soap opera of scandals. Can't say I'd look forward to that.

And that is something I've really appreciated about no drama Obama.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
60. Yes, the Sanders campaign beat the machine back, and that was a fucking warning. A shot across the
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:01 AM
Dec 2015

bow. Play fair or else.

 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
9. Un-fucking believable.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:17 PM
Dec 2015

The BS campaign steals a shitload of data, and it's HC's fault.

I hope he leaves. I gave them every benefit of the doubt this morning, but you know what, screw them.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
37. Unproven allegation = shut down opposition campaign
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:50 AM
Dec 2015

The overkill response by DWS is very telling. They believed it would just make Sanders go awày, but they were sorely mistaken. It brings him massive new publicity and exposes DWS/Hillary as being in cahoots!

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
10. It's over for Ole Hill ...
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:17 PM
Dec 2015

thanks to DWS and the DNC, regardless of who wins the nomination. No way she can win the general after this fucking stunt.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
29. Well, you're a tad late with that prediction.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:42 PM
Dec 2015

According to DU, Hillary has "lost the general" at least five hundred times since she announced.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
39. Yes, it does.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:53 AM
Dec 2015

Despite being told hundreds of times that HRC can't win the general, she's still rackin' up the votes and support of Democrats across the nation.

Yea, it really looks bad for her, doesn't it?

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
40. Yes, it does. This latest stunt by Hil and DWS has turned off many of the Dems she needs.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:55 AM
Dec 2015

But then, we are only the Little People and I am sure we mean nothing to her.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
42. Name them.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:05 AM
Dec 2015

The only "stunt" that has been perpetrated here was by BS's campaign.

If you have any evidence that HRC and DWS have engaged in any wrongdoing, post it.

If not, you're just whistlin' past the graveyard. In case you haven't noticed, Hillary is the front-runner in all national polls - and if you think all of her supporters are 1%er billionaires, you might want to investigate exactly how many 1%er billionaires there are in this country.

So BS's campaign gets caught with their hands in the data cookie jar - but it's HRC and DWS who are pulling a stunt? The disconnect from reality is mind-boggling.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
66. I don't think FaceBook ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:17 AM
Dec 2015

... elects nominees, nor presidents.

You apparently do. So shouldn't it be you going over there and setting everyone straight on how the BS campaign unethically accessing information is all Hillary's fault?

BTW, BS fired the man he holds responsible for the wrongdoing. So if there was NO wrongdoing, why was he fired? Or is Bernie himself too devoid of ethics to stand up for an innocent employee?

You can't have it both ways. Either someone was held out as the scape-goat, or he deserved firing because he was guilty of unethical behaviour.

So which is it - or should I wait for the FaceBook poll to decide?

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
41. What "stunt" is that?
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 12:55 AM
Dec 2015

Do you think that the BS campaign's "stunt" of accessing information they had no right to access is going to hurt Hillary? Really?

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
45. And what could be a more accurate reflection ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:24 AM
Dec 2015

... of the thoughts of the populace than a FaceBook page!

I'm sorry, but I really DO have to at that one.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
46. Keep whistlin' past the graveyard, Nance. You are better than this kind of reply...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:29 AM
Dec 2015

...or at least you were until your cloying adoration for Hillary seems to have blinded you.

JMHO

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
49. No need for me ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:40 AM
Dec 2015

... to go past the graveyard in any circumstance. My candidate of choice is the one who is waaaay ahead in the polls - the incredible impact of a FaceBook page notwithstanding.

I find it ironic to be told that I, or any other HRC supporter, have a "cloying admiration" for our candidate - especially when BS supporters have been at it all day explaining how the Bernie campaign's breach of ethics is somehow all Hillary's fault.

That sounds like the direct result of "cloying admiration" to me.

Duckfan

(1,268 posts)
64. You mean inacturate polls
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:10 AM
Dec 2015

The ones that poll the same "landline" database to make HC look spotless. And if you don't believe that, go spend 2 or 3 years in a newsroom to find out for yourself.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
67. But funnily enough ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:19 AM
Dec 2015

... those same polls were posted here all summer long, when BS's numbers were on the rise.

They only became "inaccurate" when his numbers stalled.

But I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
69. Well, first off ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:29 AM
Dec 2015

... Hillary has a lot more "fans" now than she did then. That's because she has not only a lot of her former 2008 supporters, but also a wide swath of Obama 2008 supporters.

I know - I'm one of them. Obama Girl in '08, a Hill Girl in '16. So your premise that anything that happens now is "according to Hillary fans" needs to take into consideration that her fans "then" are only a portion of her fans "now".

Yes, HRC lost the nomination in 2008 - by a very small margin. And she lost to an extremely charismatic, vibrant, eloquent and politically-savvy Barack Obama.

And Bernie Sanders is NO Barack Obama - a glaringly obvious shortcoming that BS fans seem completely oblivious to.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
73. Well, according to the polls ...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:42 AM
Dec 2015

... the majority of Democrats have decided that they know what a Democrat is, and they want Hillary Clinton to be their nominee.

I believe the definition of what constitutes a Democrat is up to the Party as a whole - and not the opinions of those posting on a message board.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
62. I have no doubt Hillary could have walked to the nomination if she played fair from the get-go.
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:05 AM
Dec 2015

Her and her's couldn't. With every slight toward Bernie and his supporters the inch closer to a loss. Every move they make blows up in their face. Sucks to be them. Great to be us!

RandySF

(58,936 posts)
11. The Clinton campaign has done nothing to backpedal.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:17 PM
Dec 2015

It was the Sanders campaign that went snooping into Clinton's data.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
14. It's manna from heaven
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:19 PM
Dec 2015

Nothing you guys say will slow it down. Cats outta the bag!

Let's just hope their little gambit doesn't destroy the whole party.

RandySF

(58,936 posts)
18. What cat?
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:21 PM
Dec 2015

That's what I've been asking all day. What did the why is the Clinton campaign to blame for the break-in? Jiminey Cricket, if Sander took a dump on my dinner table, you'd blame that on Clinton, too.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
19. I thought she was reasonable, clear and concise.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 11:22 PM
Dec 2015

yeah and how dare Hillary object to the Bernie campaign stealing her info. The thieves should sue her right? lol

LuvLoogie

(7,014 posts)
54. Insular myopia
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:50 AM
Dec 2015

and a lack of mirrors. There is this really self-defeating delusion that HRC and DWS are the bane of their existence. That they plot and scheme to thwart truth, justice and peace. That the MSM and the PTB and the DNC rule from Mount Doom. They don't like people, not really.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
52. You asked how long before they try putting the genie back
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:45 AM
Dec 2015

in the bottle - they have already caved on the data freeze. I would say that the genie and the bottle will be at the debates tomorrow night.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
79. "DWS's uncharacharistically blinky, nervous 'Statement'"...
Sat Dec 19, 2015, 01:58 PM
Dec 2015

...bwahaha, couldn't have said it better myself. I saw her standing there blinking like that, and knew she could not be trusted. It was actually funny.

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