I guess Sanders staffers are too young to think about Watergate.

[RandySF]

Because the beginning of the end came with the break-in.

[R B Garr]

1. LOL, the first thing I thought of but mostly

their arrogance at being accountable.

Berniegate!

[SunSeeker]

2. Indeed, this was theft of Clinton campaign info.

And this was not a low level staffer who did it.

[jfern]

3. I guess Hillary supporters are too young to think about Hillary's top secret classifed

information on her home servers

[SunSeeker]

4. There was no top secret info on her servers. Deflection fail. nt

[jfern]

5. Yes there was

[SunSeeker]

6. BENGHAZI!!!#!1!1

[Live and Learn]

29. You do know people died in Bengjazi? I really don't think their family mambers would find your

laughter palatable and neither do I.

I have stayed out of Emailgate for the most part because it was used by Repugs (who did the same thing) as a talking point but if you guys are going to use these dirty politics against Bernie (who had absolutely nothing to do with the breach or the subsequent viewing of data retrieved by it) then all bets are off.

And if Bernie doesn't get his access back and Hillary by some miracle become President, she will be viewed for all eternity as illegitimate as Dubya.

[72DejaVu]

39. Nixon didn't personally burglarize the Watergate

[Live and Learn]

40. He authorized it. Listen to the tapes.

Do you seriously think you have tapes on Bernie? No, but you will continue to immorally denigrate him, won't you?

[72DejaVu]

44. Oh no! I denigrated Bernie!

Do I go straight to hell for that, or do I just have to spend a few millennia in purgatory?

[Live and Learn]

45. Who knows? But, I do know it is wrong. nt

[72DejaVu]

46. May I suggest

That you apply your gift for great moral clarity to the issue of a campaign stealing data from its opponents?

[jfern]

7. Link

http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/16/clinton-server-had-top-secret-email/

[SunSeeker]

13. I see this data theft story has you bringing out the big deflection guns.

[jfern]

14. I'm calling you hypocrites out

The vendor said the access was inadvertent. And yet people get in a lot of trouble for taking top secret information out of the office. A lot.

[SunSeeker]

17. Hillary never stole Bernie's campaign info.

No Hillary staffer, let alone her National Data Director, used 4 accounts to search Bernie's campaign info.

[jfern]

20. Bernie never stole Hillary's campaign information

A shitty DNC led by a Hillary supporter chose a shitty vendor run by a former Hillary CTO that had a bug that the Bernie campaign had reported months ago and was never fixed. That's not a Bernie problem, that's a Hillary problem.

[SunSeeker]

23. His National Data Director used 4 accounts to search her campaign info. nt

[jfern]

24. It just said 4 accounts ran a search during that half hour

Not what was searched

[SunSeeker]

25. So they were searching for the nearest Starbucks?

[jfern]

26. Maybe just Bernie campaign information

And even if they searched for Hillary stuff, did they open it? Maybe they just wanted to confirm it was a bug before reporting it.

[SunSeeker]

27. They used 4 accounts to search Clinton campaign information.

Nothing innocent or inadvertent about that. They were not searching for a "bug." They knew what this was. They knew the firewall had gone down in the past. They reported it previously to the vendor/DNC.

I am sure we will know more soon. There is now an investigation.

I'm going to sign off for the night.

Try to get some sleep.

[jfern]

28. The article just said there were 4 accounts that ran searches while the bug was in effect

Nothing about what they searched for.

[Live and Learn]

30. Actually, we don't know that at all. What we do know is they never reported it like the Bernie

campaign did. So either her IT staff is incompetent and never noticed the breach or, more likely, they viewed and used the data and failed to report it.

[riversedge]

33. Your attempts to distract from the snoopy Sanders staffer makes you look silly.

[jfern]

35. My link involves willful misuse of classified information by a canadate

Very different from some random staffer happened to open the wrong campaign's information thanks to a bug.

[riversedge]

37. Stay focused on the content of the OP.

[w4rma]

31. Hillary Clinton's private server had two 'top secret' emails

Those concerns that Hillary Clinton's private email server had classified intel? They're apparently well-founded. Sources for Fox News and Politico maintain that two of the messages sent to Clinton were labeled as "top secret" when fresh. One of them was eventually reduced to "secret," but critics say that's beside the point: they're worried that the email wasn't subject to tougher government security standards, and could have been compromised.

Whether or not the messages are a legal problem for Clinton and her presidential election campaign are another matter. The FBI is still investigating whether or not the politician violated the law by running her own server instead of funneling everything through official channels. Any findings of illegality may well derail Clinton's campaign, but a declaration of innocence could easily thwart further attacks.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/16/clinton-server-had-top-secret-email/

[riversedge]

34. Such an obvious attempt at distraction makes your post look foolhardy.

[SunSeeker]

47. No, the FBI is not investigating Clinton. Deflection fail. nt

[R B Garr]

8. Again with the bogus transitive properties of

the Revolution. Clinton was not breaching Bernie's campaign files to gain an advantage.

[jfern]

10. His campaign reported the problem just like they did months ago

[R B Garr]

11. They accessed the data and got caught.

Now there is an investigstion.

[RandySF]

15. But in the meantime

they took advantage of the open door to trespass into the Clinton campaign's data?

[jfern]

18. They probably didn't know what it was until they clicked on it

[RandySF]

19. Yeah

A national data manager wouldn't have a clue.

[jfern]

21. The vendor said it was inadvertent

[RandySF]

22. Four user accounts?

[riversedge]

36. FOUR times they clicked.....

Sanders campaign accesses Clinton data, gets suspended from party voter files http://cnn.it/1MkyRMC #p2 #uniteblue #feeltheBern(NOT)

[72DejaVu]

41. So if I notice my neighbors back door is open

And I let him know, and then later, I see it's still open, I have the right to go in and steal his stuff?

[madfloridian]

9. So Bernie campaign called the vendor Wed, notified the DNC for months.

You want to compare this to Watergate? Really?

This will cause a huge chasm in the party, even more than already exists.

[RandySF]

12. That's already been done by the Sanders campaign's self righteousness.

Is that why the starter (and probably others) went to the effort of probing into the Clinton Campaign's data? There's a saying around here IOKIYAR (It's ok if you are Republican), and that seems to be prevalent among Sanders's people. The cause is so just, that they can do anything. The first lie, that it was a low level staffer, was rebuffed. The second lie, that only one person did it, is hig doubtful with the report that FOUR accounts were used. So what else are they lying about?

[72DejaVu]

42. IOKIYAR has been updated

Now it stands for Its OK If You Are A Revolutionary.

[senz]

16. It sure will.

Because they are showing us exactly who they are.

[w4rma]

32. The neoliberal/authoritarian wing of the Democratic Party needs to be taken out of power.

A chasm might be a good thing, if that's what it takes. I welcome this war.

[daybranch]

38. the break in was not the story,

the overriding issue was the coverup and there certainly does not appear one here. So quit hoping that Bernie people are crooks like Nixon. Bernie is clean and generally accepted as running a clean campaign by most people because he does. If you want some dirty tricks, look at past and present DNC actions instigated to prevent Bernie's message from getting out.

[72DejaVu]

43. OK then

Let's have the names of who used the other accounts that snooped at the Clonton data.

[Nye Bevan]

48. Just a third-rate data breach.

Bernie is not a crook.

[Armstead]

49. I guess they also forgot about the burning of Atlanta in the Civil War

Equally relevant comparison