This is how to win an election. Against all odds. Fair and square.

[tecelote]

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Two Million Donations.

Bernie is showing that Democracy really does work.

Even when it looks like all is lost. Corporations own America. This old guy pops up talking about what he's talked about for most of his life, an America that works for Americans.

Hats off to Bernie!

Together, we can change directions and give our children a better world.

Hope shines bright.

[99th_Monkey]

1. Very awesome post. Truth rings true. Thank you.

Sometimes it's all too easy to be lulled to sleep by all the empty noise "Bernie can't win", "hillary's
inevitable, look at the polls", and how he's not being covered NEARLY to the extent that makes any
logical sense if the media were even remotely doing it's job for our democracy.

And yes, Hats off To Bernie for his courageous epic campaign for the WH.

[tecelote]

5. Yes. A phenomenon is happening right under the medias nose.

Democracy in action.

[newfie11]

2. I was thinking that today

2 million donors. Possibly many like me that have never donated to a campaign.
Yes I always vote but no one has ever reached me like Bernie has.
In my opinion ( yes only my opinion) he maybe the one to stop the damn wars and get this country back to what we once were.

[libdem4life]

25. Same here. I've always voted Democratic, but this is the first time I've donated...auto deduction.

[Mnemosyne]

3. Hear, hear! nt

[demwing]

4. A history of kicking ass for Democracy!

[NCTraveler]

6. Democracy does work.

The game is currently rigged against it. Sanders isn't doing anything against all odds, he is proving campaigns can generate enough funds off direct citizen contributions. That is awesome, but we knew the money was there. He is doing it the way it should be done. It's also one of the biggest reasons I wouldn't consider voting for him.

[tecelote]

8. "Sanders isn't doing anything against all odds"

He broke Obama's record by 2X.

I'd say the odds were against anyone doing that.

Bernie did it handily.

[NCTraveler]

13. Please see where the ones playing by the rules are sitting.

While it is impressive, other candidates currently running seem to have a much better method of raising funds. That's on both sides of the isle. Sanders principles don't trump my rights.

[kenfrequed]

18. What right is Bernie taking from you?

The people that donate will show up to their caucuses and primaries. They will vote at that time and they will vote in November.

Having that many people donate to your campaign is a very good sign.

[U of M Dem]

39. So Sander's isn't playing by the rules

and is trumping your rights?

Do explain, I am very curious exactly how that is happening.

Sander's got the memo of how the other candidates are running their campaign finance and sees it for what it is, legal corruption. That is, kind of, ya know, his Campaign in a nut shell! I doubt you will dare click on this link to Bernie's Campaign page, but it spells it out pretty explicitly. For a "trusted source," good old "moderate" CNN might tickle your fancy.

According to this,

"other candidates currently running seem to have a much better method of raising funds"

I understand that you condone citizens united / legal bribery in politics as you are arguing for it in this instance.

To that, I must vehemently

[beerandjesus]

44. I'm actually afraid that NCT was having a stroke while writing those comments.

Because they don't make a lick of sense, and every 'clarification' has only taken us deeper down the rabbit hole.

I hope a nap is all that's necessary, but that if medical attention is required, it's being delivered as we speak.

No sarcasm intended!

[U of M Dem]

55. I feel that NCT has the burden of explaining or else

NCT is to be relegated to the same camp as Mitt Romney touting that Corporations are People.

Greed is an awful thing that makes people say and do very odd things.

[Juicy_Bellows]

22. Can you explain your last sentence?

Thats why you wouldn't consider voting for him because he is raising funds the right way?

[NCTraveler]

36. Of course.

My rights won't be sold down the river over his principals. Really is that simple. It is nothing new and has often been discussed here. Many won't consider him as he refused to go all in for our rights when it comes to campaigning.

[beerandjesus]

42. Are you taking breaks from reading Finnegan's Wake to write these comments?

[NCTraveler]

43. No. Thanks for the reply.

[beerandjesus]

45. Seriously though, you're ok, right?

I know we haven't chatted much, but I've read many of your comments before, and they're generally clear and concise. I can't make head or tail out of what you said in this sub-thread....... please tell me it's just me!

[NCTraveler]

47. Woke up with a smile. Having a great day.

Dinner plans with family tonight and fishing Sunday morning. Love Florida. Thanks for checking.

[beerandjesus]

48. Awesome, glad to hear it...

...especially since I probably sounded like a concern troll. If the comment went over my head, I can certainly live with that!

Have a great time with your family! I'm thinking pretty seriously about taking my kids to Sweatman's BBQ tonight, myself, speaking of dinner plans... it's an institution here in the Lowcountry, and I have yet to check it out myself!

[NCTraveler]

49. BBQ and family. Truly wonderful. Have a great time. nt.

[U of M Dem]

51. I must place this comment right here to relay my

complete dismissal to this inane idea that Bernie is trampling your rights by fighting to overturn Citizens United.

This is an asinine assertion in support of a blatantly corrupt law.

What kind of Orwellian doublethink mindset leads someone to believe Bernie is taking the rights of people away from them in challenging Citizens United?

We can all see your attitude is the same as this guy...



I would say the same thing, but in reverse. My voting rights won't be sold to the highest corporate bidder. Money should never sway my representative towards the interests of those wealthier than I, and if it does it is in violation of my rights as a citizen of the human being variety.

You are not alone in this world NCTraveler, others get shat on by this kind of ideology having legs and going off and becoming a law. I find it utter repugnant that anyone who wasn't directly profiting from it could be in support of Citizens United, and those people are the true leeches on society.

[Juicy_Bellows]

59. I apologize, I am still completely at loss by what you mean.

I am not being snarky, I still don't understand. What rights would be sold down the river over his principles?

[daleanime]

35. "He is doing it the way it should be done.

It's also one of the biggest reasons I wouldn't consider voting for him."

[Juicy_Bellows]

58. Glad I'm not alone in being completely dumb founded by that comment. nt.

[daleanime]

60. I'm sure....

we're not the only ones.

[jalan48]

7. Definitely the man of the people!

[ozone_man]

9. It's what Democracy is supposed to look like.

Not the oligarchy funded by Wall Street.

[George II]

10. Oh geeesssse....even the Sanders campaign says they have less than 1 million donors.

And a Sanders supporter posted just a little while ago that they haven't reached a million yet.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/16/bernie-sanders-has-now-received-2-million-campaign-contributions-aides-say/

"The campaign did not release the number of unique donors to Sanders — many people have given more than once — but aides said that figure is approaching 1 million."

[tecelote]

11. Really?

Bernie Sanders has now received 2 million campaign contributions
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/16/bernie-sanders-has-now-received-2-million-campaign-contributions-aides-say/

Saying it doesn't make it so.

[George II]

12. I added a link to an article that "says it's so".

I didn't realize it, my link is the same as yours. I read the article.

[tecelote]

14. Yes. The difference is contributors vs. contributions.

I apologize for the confusion.

2 million contributions - as the title states.

2 million contributors is still a short time away.

Still, heroic numbers. Both.

[George II]

15. Thanks, no problem.

[BeanMusical]

16. Kick and R

[sonofspy777]

17. This is

what Democracy looks like!

[in_cog_ni_to]

19. Yes! And unheard of in today's elections that are bought and paid for! n/t

[libdem4life]

20. Meanwhile, Hillary and Warren Buffet are getting cozy.

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. and if it were Bernie.....

You would be very cozy with Warren!

[libdem4life]

30. #1 It's not Bernie. #2 what does Warren have to do with this? #3 See no purpose for the post.

Hillary and Billionaire Buffet are best buds. Of course, we already knew that, but hey, just one more donor, right?

[closeupready]

40. A few years ago, she sat for an interview on Charlie Rose, and

I think was right after she'd left the State Department. He was asking her things, and mentioned Warren Buffett, and Hillary started doing her bobble-head thing and smiling, stating, 'yes, he's a friend of mine,' and I just rolled my eyes.

Mind you, I don't think Warren Buffett is a bad guy - I happen to respect his business acumen just as many others do, but it just became clear to me that she's going to listen to her 1% pals, ignoring struggling Americans at the bottom entirely.

[libdem4life]

50. Well, they just met and pretty much know the subject.

[mythology]

21. This is really a positive thing for the Sanders campaign

But on the other hand it does kind of depress me. There are 300 million people in the country. Sure a lot of them are kids, but also there have been roughly 1 million individual donors to the campaign. That's roughly speaking 1/3rd of 1 percent who contributed. Sure there are other people running, but they all have fewer donors and even being generous, probably only 5% of people have donated.

Sure some are like me and happy to vote for any of the candidates (Democratic that is) and so aren't donating in the primary, but that is such a small number of people donating in the election for the most important office in the country.

[WillyT]

23. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[tecelote]

24. This is an ironic thread considering what Bernie is being accused of this morning.

Obviously, he is trustworthy and being slandered for political gain.

[misterhighwasted]

26. Don't forget to add the Heisting of your opponants data to

..shore up your debate talking points.
That helps too!
DWS should cancel the debate until bernie turns over the data his top guy stole, as was requested of him.

If they find that data was useful in debating HRC & OMalley then the debate is tainted.
Bernie should stand on his own merit in the debate, not resort to this kind of sabatoge just to keep up with debate talking points.

That's what this data heist is about.
He needs to honor the request & turn over the heisted data, or the debate should be cancelled.

This is some seriously low level shit from the bernie campaign.

[tecelote]

32. Oh, come on.

You need to read the articles. They reported the problem and now the messenger is being shot.

Bernie's morals and ethics are not the ones to be questioned.

Why did the DNC not take care of the problem when first reported? Who else had this access? Why is the vendor so close to the Hillary camp?

This stinks and everyone knows it.

It's going to backfire.

Americans can smell a rat and they love the underdog. Especially one that has their backs and is fighting the big bad oligarchy.

[misterhighwasted]

33. Ha.. always someone elses fault. bernies campaign heisted the data.

NO one but bernie is to blame.
Turn over the data heisted and stop blaming everyone but bernies top guy who damned well knew the value of what he was taking. 4 times!
They have asked for the heisted data turned over.
we'll see how honest the sanders campaign really is.
Or will they typically pass off the blame...but..but..but

[tecelote]

34. The DNC is the responsible party.

The vendor is incompetent.

Bernie is guilty... for reporting it.

[NCTraveler]

27. Nice.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files

[Betty Karlson]

28. Amazing and truthful post.

Thanks for drawing attention back to the most important matter.

[bigwillq]

31. K and R (nt)

[Nyan]

37. 2 million donations

and it won't be long before he pulls 3 million!

[tecelote]

38. Absolutely.

Truly a groundswell of support!

[Enthusiast]

41. Kicked and recommended!

[tecelote]

46. Here's another example of Bernie telling it like it is.

This man is not owned...

Sanders campaign goes there - wasted no time
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017315577

[Faux pas]

52. K N R

[Nitram]

53. Fair and square. Like running queries on your opponent's database of New Hampshire voters.

And sharing the login info with other people in the campaign. And then blaming the DNC. Yup, that's fair and square, all right.

[tecelote]

54. He came forth and reported it.

The DNC is to blame for gross negligence and the vendor should be fired.

No doubt about that.

Where's the outrage?

[Starry Messenger]

57. And then blaming all of the women. nt.

[Uncle Joe]

56. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, tecelote.