definition of socialism: admitting the government does some things better than the private sector

[yurbud]

I realize that's setting a pretty low bar, but no Republican would directly admit that, and corporate Democrats would dance around it and try not to say it directly.

[NCTraveler]

1. I think you are wrong in your analysis of who promotes government programs.

I am very familiar with the "welfare queen" argument and it seem to be coming hot and heavy from the "left."

Please not I am not saying it is the op at this link, but please look at the damn arguments. If one part of a program is bad then the whole damn thing is bad. Great timing on your op because I really feel the replies to this thread speak directly to your concerns. The difference is in who you lay "better" at the feet of.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027449679

I truly believe the replies to that op completely disprove who is supposedly supporting government programs.

[brooklynite]

2. Definition of socialism: advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange...

should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Definition of Social democracy: supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a capitalist economy

You wouldn't need to coming up with creative workarounds if Bernie didn't self-identify as a Socialist.

[jkbRN]

3. .............................. he self indentifies as a democratic socialist

please stop using the same arguments in every post, you come off as HIGHLY OBNOXIOUS and ILL-INFORMED. sad day for you.

[brooklynite]

4. ...and if everyone understood and accepted that definition, we wouldn't need this thread, would we?

"Socialist", even with a modifier, is a major political hindrance.

[redstateblues]

5. la la la la - I can't hear you-

I love it when some here on DU twist themselves into knots hoping it is a big plus to be called a Socialist

[yurbud]

6. it's not a work around, it's trying to simplify