Is it true that Hillary and her supporters hate the fact that Trudeau won the Canadian election?

[Cali_Democrat]

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Apparently Hillary and her supporters are all over the internet talking about how they hate the fact that Harper lost to Trudeau.

The story is even on the front page of this website and it got over 170 recs.

Is this true? Are Hillary supporters mad that Trudeau won? I haven't seen any Hillary supporters saying they're mad that Trudeau won.

There's no way a post can get over 170 recs if it's built on a lie.

Right?

[libdem4life]

1. Well, it happened in Greece and just happened in Spain, too. That would suggest that

Politics as Usual may be in a bit of a bind. They were both Right Wing, I believe.

[Renew Deal]

3. What happened in Greece and Spain? And what does that have to do with Canada?

[libdem4life]

8. Leftist governments replacing Right Wing PTB.

First of all, Canada is in North America...we share a border. Europe is changing...there may be others that didn't make the news or I haven't read, but it seems to be a trend. Merkel of Germany is Time Person of the Year. That was a long but good read. Said a lot about Europe.

The People ... a different set of people ... are making their voices heard. Bernie's campaign would seem to be more in line with them.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. And what does that have to do with the very salient point

This DU'r made?

[libdem4life]

30. I guess it is that if you don't see the connection, there is no point expanding on it.

Personally, I thought it was self-explanatory, but what do I know?

[VanillaRhapsody]

32. Strawman..

And a distraction from the point.....

Which remains just as valid...

[libdem4life]

41. There ya go again...boggles the mind.

Is there a Strawwoman? Perhaps a Strawperson is more appropriate...who knew?

[VanillaRhapsody]

49. No idea....but you are still derailing..

Point still valid.....

[libdem4life]

52. Would you be so kind as to tell me which point upon which I derailed?

I actually went back and looked...so could you help me out here?

[Renew Deal]

79. The Greek "right wing" that you are referring to is probably to the left of the Democratic party

They were very much caretakers of the socialist system.

[Renew Deal]

2. I've never seen anyone on DU supportive of Harper

I agree that the other post is based on a lie

[Hoyt]

132. Me neither. Happy Trudeau won. I'd be happy if Sanders won, but

the odds are decidedly against him.

[moobu2]

4. It's a smear like all the other smears.

[brooklynite]

5. If it's "all over the internet" you can provide a citation

Can't you?

[Historic NY]

53. Its becoming a pattern accuse and then can't supply any info

to support the accusation. They must get their jollies off.......

Thread like these would have been squashed in the old days.

[Cha]

91. They're just showing off how desperate they are and a few other things.

[tritsofme]

74. It is the Donald Trump standard for truth...

[JI7]

6. internet bubble

The fact is most people don't have that on their mind at all.

[Buzz Clik]

7. HRC sent orders by email this morning to all of the Hilbots. They are now in lockstep on this issue

(where does this shit come from?)

[whatthehey]

9. I'd be perfectly happy with HRC and I'm thrilled he won.

[sufrommich]

10. It was the dumbest smear yet. Although I've learned to

never believe the shark can't jump any higher here on DU.

[NCTraveler]

11. I'm happy about it.

Haven't seen Clinton supporters who weren't. I made the exact point you are making here to the other op. It's bunk.

"There's no way a post can get over 170 recs if it's built on a lie. "

It did and it is.

[NBachers]

12. Oh no- Not this again. More phony shit pulled out out of somebody's deluded lying ass.

I love Bernie. I've donated to Hillary as well. I'll support her enthusiastically if she's the candidate. I saw Harper as Little Bush, and the picture of Justin Trudeau welcoming the refugees warmed my heart.

I am hoping that Trudeau's victory will be a harbinger of enlightened electoral results on the USA side of the border. I'm old enough to remember Pierre Elliott Trudeau, and I'm looking forward to more of the same from Justin Trudeau.

By the way, the anti-Hillary harpies love to carp about "no dynasties" in the White House. I haven't seen them complaining about a "Trudeau dynasty." A bit of a double standard here, no?

Your accusation is total unadulterated bullshit.

I'll join the chorus of posters demanding links to reliable sources where Hillary and her supporters blah blah blah . . .

[NCTraveler]

13. oops. nt.

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. Thats a very good point....

And surely he was anointed and coronated right?

[seabeyond]

37. And, ... Trudeau had a blast getting a call from the PRez.... giving his thumbs up. Meh, a whole

lot of silly.

[beam me up scottie]

14. Another whingy meta* post, what a shock!

Where is this op that has you so upset, I might go rec it.










*Note to jury: op admitted it's meta and thinking it's whingy is an opinion, not a personal attack:

There's no way a post can get over 170 recs if it's built on a lie.

[joshcryer]

35. Better Believe It was a notorious troll and got 100s of recs.

Rec count is not some kind of metric of truth. It's more of a "whatever makes me feel good about something" type of thing in my experience.

[beam me up scottie]

43. I love the hypocrisy and double standards from the peeps who complain about Bernie supporters 24/7.

It's hillaryous!





























*note to jury: this is a personal opinion, not a personal attack/no posters were harmed as a result of this post

[joshcryer]

46. I think the hosts are doing a terrible job.

All meta should be locked. Done.

Give me a host position, I'd lock all threads (including that callout thread of supposed "Hillary supporters who hate Trudeau"; and this thread that spawned from it).

[beam me up scottie]

48. I said that a long time ago, all threads about supporters should be locked as meta.

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But it seems like only the ones posted by Bernie supporters ever get locked for some strange reason.


















*note to jury: this is an opinion/contains no personal attacks/no posters were harmed as a result of this post

[joshcryer]

51. The thread that spawned this one is not locked.

So that's not true. I think it just depends on the host. I think TexasTowlie is the only one who does it after a long considered host debate in the host forum.

Just have a consensus, lock the meta talk about supporters of any candidate.

[beam me up scottie]

55. Thread after thread by Bernie supporters are locked but ones like this stay open.

Why was this thread locked for meta but not the op's?:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251902452

It doesn't take much to figure out what's going on.

[joshcryer]

58. Not true, search this forum for the "Beware of" posts.

Just go to the GD : P forum and do Control+F and put in "Beware of"

The only "Beware of" post that got locked? Was a post making fun of the "Beware of" posts! You can't make this up. Making fun of the "Beware of" meta BS is too meta for the hosts' liking!

[beam me up scottie]

61. So then why wasn't this one locked? Or any of the dozens of others about Bernie's supporters?

I'm not the only one who noticed the bias.




















*disclaimer: this post contains no personal attacks/no posters were harmed as a result of this post

[joshcryer]

63. Search "beware"

That's all I can tell you. This isn't the only thread. I'm happy when any of the meta threads are locked, Sanders or Clinton.

But whatever, no one is going to listen.

[LostOne4Ever]

94. That not quite how hosting works. nt

[joshcryer]

131. Oh, I know.

I'd get banned from hosting after awhile of doing my job and actually trying to keep everyone from losing their minds over meta crap.

But it'd be nice while I had the position.

To be sure, "disruptive meta-discussion is forbidden" would allow me to do what I want with meta bullshit with impunity and Skinner would either back it up or remove that rule from the forums.

[1StrongBlackMan]

82. Where did this OP even mention "Bernie supporters"? ...

"Chuck a rock, and the dog that yelps, be the dog done got hit."

[beam me up scottie]

83. okay n/t

[1StrongBlackMan]

84. I know ... I know ... it was implied !!!! eom.

[Cha]

93. Exactly, josh.. they can tout their recs for something stupid like "Hill supporters wanted harper"

without a shred of proof.. But, that means less than zero in the real world.

I have my proof that I love Trudeau and he's coming to the White House next year!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1284428

[DFW]

111. Hey, I was at the White House last Friday!

Trudeau comes in second!

(J/K!! I'll bet his visit gets a longer audience than I got this time)

[Cha]

113. I am so happy for you and a little bit envious!

[DFW]

116. I posted about it in the lounge.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018822214

[Cha]

118. Thank you!

[seabeyond]

39. Laughing. Not so much ..... upset. But, I am sure you already get that.

[beam me up scottie]

44. So not upset they just had to post a meta thread to complain about it.

[seabeyond]

50. Yes. It is entertaining, brings a smile and lightens the mood. I worked hard today. Kinda like a

glass of wine at the end of the day.

Thank you.

[bvf]

15. Is that the OP that got alerted on

because it didn't provide a link?

I'd never seen such a thing before.

[beam me up scottie]

17. They alert trolled it for lacking a link? Oh the DRAMA! Somebody call the whambulance!

[applegrove]

16. GOP troll propaganda

[George II]

26. I believe the person who posted that is a Sanders supporter....

...

[seabeyond]

42. A Canadian Sanders supporter? Don't Canadian Clinton supporters get bashed here? Too funny. Ah ha

This thread has been a treat.

[George II]

65. Yes, the gift that keeps on giving. From the tone of that other OP he sure sounded like one.

[Cha]

97. Of course he is. the one who had no proof whatsoever of his vile accusations.. unlike me

who actually has proof.. I was so Happy Trudeau won!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1284428

[Cha]

99. Hey you may be onto something there.

[applegrove]

107. Like the GOP would push poll false ideas over the telephone

but not push false memes damaging to the democratic cause on the intertubes.

[Skidmore]

18. I support Hillary and

I am thrilled that my Canadian friends were able to get their choice in the election there. Trudeau will be a great leader.

I am sick to death of Hillary supporters being labelled with BS rightwing smears by outright trolls and those who refuse to recognize them for what they are.

[SidDithers]

19. No, it's not true...

The other thread is full of shit.

Sid

[joshcryer]

40. But you didn't rec any Trudeau threads!

You're not fooling anyone Sid.

[SidDithers]

72. Curses! I've been exposed!..nt

Sid

[Cha]

95. 2nd that.

[Gamecock Lefty]

20. This is a classic case of . . .

Bernie supporters beginning to see the end of the line for King Bernie and they are either making stuff up or quoting obscure online polls which mean nothing!

As for me, I'm happy Trudeau won!!!

[NurseJackie]

36. I'm happy as a ...

[Cha]

96. I was Happy Dec 8th .. LOL

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1284428

[Starry Messenger]

21. That's bananas

I'm totally excited about Canada's victory.

[joshcryer]

34. Not as excited about Star Wars, though!

[Starry Messenger]

38. That's pretty much true. My FB is all Star Wars this week.

[mcar]

22. I think DU is still waiting on the proof of that claim

Doesn't stop some from making it, though.

[Cha]

128. It just shows they don't deal in reality.. so anything that comes from there

cannot be trusted.

Nice corner they backed themselves into.

[George II]

23. Unbelievable that people would make up something like that just to yet again bash Clinton....

...and her supporters.

I was thrilled to see Trudeau force Harper out of office after almost ten years of "draconian" rule. Trudeau will be good for Canada and good for relations with the United States.

My family up there are equally happy for Trudeau and Canada.

This was one of my favorite photographs from election night in October:

[seabeyond]

24. No way... And see, I am seldom on du. Saw the accusation just briefly last night.

Ridiculous. And simply insulting Clinton supporters with no fact, proof or evidence. Such an extreme comment. And no one has ever heard this accusation on du by Clinton supporters.

Yet, Cali, are you telling me that absurdly incorrect and offensive OP, created only for the purpose if insulting fellow Du'ers on this site, really received 175 recommends?

That is truly outstanding a person can make such a baseless accusation toward so many members, and 175 applauds the factless insults.

[betsuni]

25. Up to 197 recs now: the It's Not A Lie If You Believe It crowd is busy.

[seabeyond]

31. No. Last night I read the person who wrote the OP say, he was having lottsa a fun.... offending

so many duers. More stating they loved the thread, simply because it was pissing off so many. Now, the reality is, just who is gonna get pissed off by an OP that everyone know is false. And that the only purpose for the OP is insulting a bunch of members? Hence, all the recommends.

Too funny.

You all made me laugh. Now I have had my quota of Du. Time to buy some Christmas presents. I have been a busy woman, and my son is home from school, for a couple of weeks.

Good seeing you Betsuni.

[betsuni]

71. Yes, Sanders is being used as an excuse to troll. It isn't about him.

It's just easier to get away with, pretending it's a "disagreement" about "policy." I often feel like I'm studying how to troll while reading these sorts of threads.

[dlwickham]

28. what utter bullshit

someone needs a time-out

[joshcryer]

33. That Clinton supporters swarmed that thread and this one...

...I think it's completely false.

But, of course, people defending themselves from smears is "proof" that the smears are true.

In crazyville.

[seabeyond]

47. Bah hahahaha. That twister made me have to work a little. Cute.

But, of course, people defending themselves from smears is "proof" that the smears are true.

[VanillaRhapsody]

45. Someone please explain to me how this helps get "more

Democrats elected? Is that no longer the "Prime Directive"?

[libdem4life]

60. Here's a thought...Trudeau is a Leftist...born and bred. Hillary is not a Leftist. She's a Centrist

Simple explanation. They are both second in their family to hold/run for office. (I think) All the Leftists on this board seem to be labeled Anti-Hillary. How does that happen? Oh, it's DU, that's how it goes.

My personal political flaw, as I read/hear/see it, is that I'm for Bernie first. Then read my Sig Line.

[Metric System]

62. The Liberal party is centrist. The NDP is leftist. In fact, Bernie supporters remind me a lot of NDP

supporters (for better and worse).

[libdem4life]

64. Maybe what passes for Centrist in Canada passes for Leftist here? There really is no Leftist Party

here...just a gaggle of old Liberals. If that's the comparison, then I bear it gladly. My first vote was for McGovern back in the day and ever since, it's been like cold scrambled eggs. The right menu, but just not very edible.

[VanillaRhapsody]

69. Don't like the democratic Party?

Welcome to start your own! Nobody stopping you!

But do note.....even Bernie Sanders had to cave and BECOME one of us

a Democrat

[libdem4life]

78. I sense a kind of a Shoulder Chip here ... I've probably been a Democrat longer than you've been

on this planet, if your hysteria is any indication, but please, please, please remember that one of the benefits of the Democratic Party is called a Big Tent. That means we harbor a number of ideologies that may be similar but not in lock-step.

Hillary is not The Inevitable Queen any more than Bernie is the Christmas Scrooge subject to "caving" to The Queen...lighten up already. Sheesh.

Please, proceed on to bigger and better posters.

[MrWendel]

76. What part of Canada...

are you from?

[libdem4life]

138. Relevance, please?

Sensing that the inference is that one not from a certain country can comment on news stories. So if you're Canadian, what are you doing on a US political site?

Normally I wouldn't say that because most come to and post on this site because it is global, the posters and news and comments are around many countries and that's what I like about it. So lets not play a nationalist card, K?

[VanillaRhapsody]

68. THAT'S quantifiable and craven hogwash!

Thank you for proving the point!

By the way....

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

[libdem4life]

80. Hey, you win the linguistic balderdash of the thread.

Wow...Certifiable and Craven Hogwash...you go girl/guy! This is a game I don't play.

[MrWendel]

137. You do play the game of "spot the lie"...

not that well though.

[riversedge]

54. Why do you post such divisive crapas your OP?

[upaloopa]

56. Anybody for any reason can rec a post

A rec doesn't mean a Hillary supporter did it.

Since we aren't too into on line things I doubt the rec's can tell you anything that matches reality.

[MoonRiver]

57. This is the most absurd lie ever.

I was overjoyed when Trudeau won. I'm a statistic of one, of course, but that meme is a pile of steaming you know what. And it stinks.

[NurseJackie]

59. Why would anyone make such a claim? And ...

... what's the benefit, or the goal of saying that?

[BlueMTexpat]

66. It certainly is not true.

At all.

The fact that such a post would get 170 recs tells one a lot more about those DU members who recommended it. And that picture is NOT a pretty one.

[MrWendel]

67. As a Canadian...

and Hillary supporter, this is far and away one of the stupidest stories I have read in awhile. This is Berniebot BS.

[Number23]

70. There were Hillary supporters and ACTUAL CANADIANS calling that OP out from the first post

It makes no difference to the Wrecking (Rec'ing) Crew. This is their playpen and the only place IN THE WORLD that they have anything resembling power or a majority. And look what they do with it.

I guess we should all be glad that their antics and hysteria have kept them perpetually self-relegated to the sidelines.

[MrWendel]

75. If we don't ...

call them out on their bullshit, who will?

[Number23]

77. What difference does their spew make?? Has it really changed anything one way or the other?

These are people who were howling mad that their multiple voting in every online poll they come across has barely made a dent in Sanders' national support. These are people CONVINCED with a capital C that Cornell West joining Sanders campaign would increase his black support. And these are people who think that running around Facebook and Twitter insulting and harassing everyone who isn't calling Hillary Clinton El Diablo is helping their candidate.

Despite their best and Lord knows UNENDING efforts to tear Clinton down, her lead and advantage has only grown. The bile has isolated them from every decent, thinking Sanders supporter and the majority of O'Malley supporters as well from what I can tell too. So let them spew. It doesn't seem to be making a bit of difference either way.

[MrWendel]

88. Our very own...

left wing tea party. But you're right. Just make sure you show up to the polls when it counts.

[Cha]

98. No kidding! So far anyway.. Hill fans South of the Border were So Happy for you, MrWendel!

[MrWendel]

134. After waht felt like centuries of Harper...

its nice to have someone who you can be excited about as leader. I hope you continue to get that too after President Obama.

[Cha]

135. It felt like centuries here too for harper.. then there was bush and we were over-joyed

when President Obama won!

Now, we're spoiled and want two Democratic Presidents 2 full terms in a row!

Thank you~

[tritsofme]

73. Whoever wrote it is a liar. Must be taking lessons from Donald Trump.

[MeNMyVolt]

81. Don't believe you.

Only an asshole would post something like that, and we mostly have good people on this board.

[seabeyond]

85. You came to that in under a month? Well, lol, good for you.

[MeNMyVolt]

86. I'm clever that way.

Nice to see you posting. Please do more! I'm missing the old-timers.

[Cha]

92. I hear ya! lOL

[DemocratSinceBirth]

87. First they disrespect you...

First they disrespect you, then they lie about you, then they fight you, then you win.

[TexasTowelie]

89. Kicking the thread.

The consensus to lock this thread no longer exists among the forum hosts. I did not lock the thread myself, but I do want to apologize that the discussion on this thread was disrupted by the lock.

[Starry Messenger]

100. Thanks TT.

You're a model host.

[TexasTowelie]

103. In my youth I was photogenic,

but I didn't have the muscles to be a GQ model. I was also a good example of being a bad example. Now I have to settle for a few compliments and be admired as a good host on DU. Oh how the mighty have fallen!

[KMOD]

144. You have very nice legs.

Even when they are covered in kitty scratches.

[SidDithers]

133. Thank you...

I very surprised to see this thread locked, particularly by that Host.

From the outside, it looked like another example of partisan Hosting.

I'm glad to see that wasn't the case.

Sid

[Cha]

90. An OP based on a lie can get as many Recs as they are desperate to give it.

It was stated with absolutely no proof..

Well, here's my proof that it's not true..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1284428

Thank you, Cali!

[KMOD]

101. Cali provided truth.

That other post should be in the CT forum.

K & R

[Cha]

104. Not sure we have forum where that should have gone. It should have been hidden and a Mod

would have done that.

[KMOD]

106. We don't have mods.

We have Rick.

[Cha]

147. Right...

[melanice]

102. Is it true that Hillary and her supporters hate the fact that Trudeau won the Canadian election?

its normal for that its all on political aspect and good for Hillary to remain there

[KMOD]

108. huh?

[merrily]

105. It's funny how nothing said on DU matters, until someone wants it to matter.

[KMOD]

109. eeeee maaaailllssss

arrrrghhhhh.

[beam me up scottie]

110. Are you okay?

[KMOD]

114. Yup.

But laughing my ass off at the unintentional comedy.

[beam me up scottie]

115. So am I.

The daily poutrage is always hilarious.

[merrily]

120. Non sequiturs R So Not Us!

[beam me up scottie]

121. You just a hater!

[merrily]

122. You just posting on second grade level. Wait, do even second graders accuse people of hating

based on fonts?

Never mind. I'm spanking you anyway!

The odd bit about that smilie? The guy doing the spanking looks angry or disappointed, while the guy getting the spanking seems to be grinning. Weird.

[beam me up scottie]

123. Role playing smilies.

C'mon, keep up with the times!

[merrily]

125. You. Went. There.

How many times do I have to tell you, there's private time and then there's message board time?

[merrily]

126. Well, within one 20-minute span this morning:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=904700

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=904723

[beam me up scottie]

127. Very odd responses.

[merrily]

130. Yeah, you are! And pink geraniums are hardy!

[merrily]

119. Fur ball?

[DFW]

112. Just to be clear with an answer to the question:

No.

I've never seen anything of the sort. Of course, I've never seen any post purporting that Donald Trump has decided to give up all wealth and politics and join a Buddhist monastery, either. Is it true....???

[NuclearDem]

117. No, they're not.

It's just yet another stupid piece of stupid to prepare us for the next round of unskewed polls.

[ismnotwasm]

124. Fuck no.

That's just weird.

[Hekate]

129. No

[zappaman]

136. I haven't seen one DUer hate that Trudeau won.

No matter who they support.
Why would anyone say that Hillary and her supporters hate that Trudeau won?

[Cha]

139. Desperation.

[MADem]

141. Nor have I. Weird, though, that DUers would "rec" a thread saying so, though, don't you think?

You have to wonder who would do such a thing....and why?

[MADem]

140. Happens all the time lately. I think, come March, things will quiet down.

One can only hope!

[SharonClark]

142. SO republican of you

Making up shit and putting a question mark after it.

[MeNMyVolt]

143. Just an FYI.

The OP is referencing an earlier thread that declared the premise to be true. This OP is an attempt to highlight that absurdity.

[Cha]

146. No, the OP is not repub.

[Rex]

145. I don't believe it simply because I won't and refuse to

lump all HRC and Bernie supporters together as drones.