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MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:54 AM Dec 2015

I don't care which candidate DUers vote for in the primaries.

DU won't decide who the nominee is. The voters in each primary state will do that.

We'll know who that nominee will be on March 2, 2016. Vote as you think best if you have a primary before then.

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I don't care which candidate DUers vote for in the primaries. (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2015 OP
Do you feel compelled to make everything you post in a thread into an op, cali Dec 2015 #1
. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #4
indeed ibegurpard Dec 2015 #6
I only do it so you'll have someone to reply to, Cali. MineralMan Dec 2015 #8
Nah, Cali has it nailed tkmorris Dec 2015 #24
No worries. I'll continue to make my one or two OPs MineralMan Dec 2015 #26
Keep making OPs, MM. bigwillq Dec 2015 #49
Why does this bother you so much? NurseJackie Dec 2015 #15
Irony. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #16
indeed KMOD Dec 2015 #28
I'm confused...what is the definition of an acceptable OP? Seems it's often just one person's libdem4life Dec 2015 #19
Irony Is a Funny Thing. MineralMan Dec 2015 #20
Indeed. I hear it's Primary Time ... LOL ... it's my first experience. Whee Doggies, as they libdem4life Dec 2015 #31
Now THAT is an ironic post. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #34
who is Bernie's supporter in the House? Protalker Dec 2015 #2
Keith Ellison has endorsed Bernie. MineralMan Dec 2015 #9
courageous as Ellison is Protalker Dec 2015 #53
Really excited for the voting to start. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #3
It will be a relief to be able to talk about actual MineralMan Dec 2015 #12
I am also looking forwart to actual election results Gothmog Dec 2015 #45
thanks ibegurpard Dec 2015 #5
My approval is not necessary in any way. MineralMan Dec 2015 #10
Apparently enough to write another OP about.. ibegurpard Dec 2015 #27
Hey...you clicked on it. MineralMan Dec 2015 #41
Chelsea Clinton 2024! stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #7
Because.... artislife Dec 2015 #13
aren't we all Clinton at heart? stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #22
Do you mean heart? artislife Dec 2015 #25
Chelsea is being groomed. Here goes the O word again, and it's not Oprah. libdem4life Dec 2015 #29
What has she done artislife Dec 2015 #46
Nothing...that's my point. Oh yeah, the Foundation. May be legal as far as donations, but libdem4life Dec 2015 #47
frankly..lots of the supporters are acting like royalists. artislife Dec 2015 #48
Yes, in the sense of Imperial, Superior et al ... I agree. But not one word changes my opinion libdem4life Dec 2015 #50
on my phone can't see sig lines.. artislife Dec 2015 #51
Sig Line...Go (Bernie/Hillary/Martin) Democrats !!! libdem4life Dec 2015 #52
I will vote the in the GE to make my voice heard artislife Dec 2015 #11
We will all vote for that reason. MineralMan Dec 2015 #14
Sure.... artislife Dec 2015 #17
I will never support a scorched earth strategy. MineralMan Dec 2015 #18
Many in the RW agree with that strategy ... JoePhilly Dec 2015 #36
Then maybe all this in-fighting will stop and we can get behind one candidate woodsprite Dec 2015 #21
I certainly hope that is what happens. MineralMan Dec 2015 #23
if you support ibegurpard Dec 2015 #30
I intend to vote for the Democratic nominee whomever they are, woodsprite Dec 2015 #32
I said nothing about who you support ibegurpard Dec 2015 #33
Since I have a Bernie icon and have donated solely to his campaign, woodsprite Dec 2015 #35
The bridges have been burned and the embers pissed upon. jeff47 Dec 2015 #38
Yeah, I've been a member over 10 years, and woodsprite Dec 2015 #39
Added my first entry on my ignore list last week. So far it's the only one jeff47 Dec 2015 #40
Bullshit. jeff47 Dec 2015 #37
Actually, most of my OPs have to do with how things MineralMan Dec 2015 #42
As you are well aware, most is not all. jeff47 Dec 2015 #43
The primary contest will be over by Super Tuesday Gothmog Dec 2015 #44
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
1. Do you feel compelled to make everything you post in a thread into an op,
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:59 AM
Dec 2015

no matter how mundane it is? Seems that way. Over and over again. This hardly earth shattering wisdom. I'm quite certain that we all know that the nomination won't be decided on DU.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
8. I only do it so you'll have someone to reply to, Cali.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:22 AM
Dec 2015

I suppose we could compare the number of OPs each of us posted, but I can't see how that's really relevant to anything. Thanks for taking the time to reply to my mundane post.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
26. No worries. I'll continue to make my one or two OPs
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:41 AM
Dec 2015

every day. Those who don't have me on Ignore will see them.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
49. Keep making OPs, MM.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:48 PM
Dec 2015

Middle finger to the haters! LOL

They can hide thread or ignore.

If you want to make 10,229 OPs a day, that is your right.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
19. I'm confused...what is the definition of an acceptable OP? Seems it's often just one person's
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:34 AM
Dec 2015

perspective...then up for discussion. Is it a rule that one need quote some source for their opinion...inferring that we don't have opinions that are important? Also, not everyone spends massive time on DU, which brings to mind the scolding that someone gets with a link that has already been posted.

I'm just the opposite because I hate having a thread fall off...I've tried a couple of times.

And this comment..."hardly earth shattering wisdom" and "we all know that the nomination won't be decided on DU" or "mundane?... smacks of a fair amount of superiority. That same inference for which the OP is called out for.

JMO

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
20. Irony Is a Funny Thing.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:36 AM
Dec 2015

Still, it helps the Earth rotate on its axis, I understand. Irony we will always have, and in abundance.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
31. Indeed. I hear it's Primary Time ... LOL ... it's my first experience. Whee Doggies, as they
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:51 AM
Dec 2015

in the South.

Protalker

(418 posts)
2. who is Bernie's supporter in the House?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:01 AM
Dec 2015

the house is where all taxes originate. Who is going to pick up the mantle of the socialist and raise taxes on the rich - 90% where they were during the Eisenhower years. Think think think.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
9. Keith Ellison has endorsed Bernie.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:24 AM
Dec 2015

He's the House representative of a district that is mainly in Minneapolis, MN.

Protalker

(418 posts)
53. courageous as Ellison is
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:19 AM
Dec 2015

In today's world a Muslim pushing a socialist agenda may have an uphill battle getting Republican support. Without saying would should or could, what % chance does Keith have for success?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. Really excited for the voting to start.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:04 AM
Dec 2015

It looks like we have a good chance to go into the General with an extremely unified party. Democrats seem to be unifying around Clinton. Meanwhile, the republicans are experiencing a civil war of sorts.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
12. It will be a relief to be able to talk about actual
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:27 AM
Dec 2015

election results, I think. Campaigns take so long these days. Until there is actual voting, we really don't have a lot to talk about, so there's a lot of wasted words. Just over a month from now, we'll start having actual results to discuss.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
10. My approval is not necessary in any way.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:25 AM
Dec 2015

I hope you'll vote according to your best judgment. I'm sure you will.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
25. Do you mean heart?
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:40 AM
Dec 2015

And why would that be funny?


I hope you are a good representation of her followers.



Really, I do.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
29. Chelsea is being groomed. Here goes the O word again, and it's not Oprah.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:48 AM
Dec 2015

Oligarchy. Please forgive the repetition of the word, and it sticks in the craw of many, but it's fast becoming more relevant than ever.

We have an Oligarch running for President and her daughter is next in line. Political name, power, a hedge fund player, as is her husband, and we've watched her grow up since Bill.

And the Bushes have their next political offering standing by, probably John Ellis Bush, Jr.

Bernie could stop the hemorraging.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
46. What has she done
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:35 PM
Dec 2015

That would merit votes. If I see anything to do with tthat chappy foundation I will laugh.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
47. Nothing...that's my point. Oh yeah, the Foundation. May be legal as far as donations, but
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:52 PM
Dec 2015

in the GE it's going to bite the Clintons. Chelsea and hubby are 1%ers/Oligarchs.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
50. Yes, in the sense of Imperial, Superior et al ... I agree. But not one word changes my opinion
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:53 PM
Dec 2015

or my focus. Both sides dissing the other... we'd better let some "sleeping dogs lie" here pretty soon. We're going to come to a Kum By Ya Moment after the Primary.

Vote your conscience in the Primary, don't badmouth others who may not see it the same way. Share your reasons for discussion while doing our best to rally with honor for our guy/gal in the meantime.

Most important do not withhold (vote Republican) your vote in the GE.

This is what DU means to me...but as I've said, this is my first active primary...and my first post with my new Sig line.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
52. Sig Line...Go (Bernie/Hillary/Martin) Democrats !!!
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:47 PM
Dec 2015

Kumbaya is required for the Nominee. There's only going to be just one emerge as the Nominee. Whoever doesn't agree is either in it to win it, or voting/non voting Republican. Pretty simple.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
11. I will vote the in the GE to make my voice heard
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:26 AM
Dec 2015

Either it will be a happy vote for the future or it will not.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
14. We will all vote for that reason.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:28 AM
Dec 2015

Sometimes our voice is joined by the majority and sometimes is is not. I still remember the 1968 election. That was not one of the good presidential election years. Not in any way.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
18. I will never support a scorched earth strategy.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:33 AM
Dec 2015

Too many people are disastrously affected by such things.

If that's your strategy, I'm an opponent, and always will be.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
36. Many in the RW agree with that strategy ...
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:04 PM
Dec 2015

... they think that their own version of Utopia will rise from the ashes ... a Christian only fascist theocracy.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
21. Then maybe all this in-fighting will stop and we can get behind one candidate
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:37 AM
Dec 2015

Whomever it is that wins the Democratic nomination. DU will be a much more pleasant place when we can all be on the same side again.

Can't wait until the 2nd week in March. I didn't say the first week because I fully expect the pissing contests to continue for a bit after the nomination, but at some point, DU will be back to the support system that we were all looking for when we joined.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
23. I certainly hope that is what happens.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:39 AM
Dec 2015

We're going to all need to work together on GOTV and other efforts for the general election. We must win this one. If we do not, the damage that will be done has the potential for disaster.

I'm all in for the 2016 election. I hope everyone will be.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
30. if you support
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:49 AM
Dec 2015

Policy for the benefit of big money donors and lobbyists at the expense of the public good, health insurance companies on the public dole, charter schools, trade policy that actually does harm to the middle and working classes, and saber-rattling over diplomacy then we will never be on the same side. Ever.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
32. I intend to vote for the Democratic nominee whomever they are,
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 11:54 AM
Dec 2015

My vote, or absence of a vote, will not be going to support the Republican party in any way, shape, or form.

My primary vote will go to Bernie.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
35. Since I have a Bernie icon and have donated solely to his campaign,
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:03 PM
Dec 2015

it sounds like we'd be on the same side.

I support single payer healthcare for all, I support getting corporate money out of elections, I support cutting corporate loopholes in our tax system, penalizing companies that move jobs overseas for cheap labor, hide money offshore so they can avoid taxes, I support rewarding companies who stay in America providing jobs, financial security for employees families, and produce American made goods. I'm for America first and don't believe we should be funding foreign governments and foreign military before we take care of our own homeless and veterans. I support public schools both through money donations, voting, and volunteerism, etc. I wish we had never entered into the trade agreements that broke the middle class. I support hiring the right person for the job and equal pay for equal work. I support progressives wherever I can in local government and elected positions, and try to get others to support them as well.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
38. The bridges have been burned and the embers pissed upon.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:36 PM
Dec 2015

There are many posters here I used to respect and enjoy reading. Their abuse during this primary has ended that.

woodsprite

(11,916 posts)
39. Yeah, I've been a member over 10 years, and
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:50 PM
Dec 2015

this is the first season I've ever put people on an ignore list.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
40. Added my first entry on my ignore list last week. So far it's the only one
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:53 PM
Dec 2015

since I still want to see the crap being thrown against the wall. But it's getting harder and harder to keep it at one.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
37. Bullshit.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 12:34 PM
Dec 2015

When you make a series of posts trying to convince DUers to vote for Clinton, you demonstrate that you do care.

MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
42. Actually, most of my OPs have to do with how things
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:02 PM
Dec 2015

are looking for the primaries. I'm not really trying to get people to do anything. I'm just looking at what's out there and what the trends indicate.

Yes, I'm voting for Hillary at my precinct caucus. So what? My vote doesn't affect you. You have your own mind and will vote as you think best.

Once the primaries are over, there will be a nominee. I'll be working my ass off for that nominee. If it turns out to be Sanders, I'll be surprised, but I'll still be doing the same hard work to get the Democrat elected.

In the meantime, I'm watching all the same things everyone else is watching. I think my prediction of the results will end up being accurate. You may think otherwise. Frankly, neither of us matters much. We'll find out soon enough.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
43. As you are well aware, most is not all.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 01:08 PM
Dec 2015

You have made many posts directly pushing for DUers to support Clinton.

In addition, your sermons on "how politics works" don't literally say "vote Clinton", but make the argument that Sanders or O'Malley are wastes of time.

Then you'll make posts like this one insisting that you're above it all.

Own your actions, instead of pretending to be something you are not.

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