Hillary Clinton outlines plan to stop ISIS from recruiting online

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Minneapolis (CNN)Hillary Clinton argued Tuesday that the U.S. can stop homegrown terrorism, outlining a plan to combat domestic radicalization two weeks after two ISIS-inspired terrorists killed 14 people in San Bernardino, California.

In a speech that was part policy, part politics, Clinton contrasted herself directly with Republicans running for president, stating that Muslim-American are the "first, last and best defense against homegrown radicalization and terrorism."


"I am confident once again we will choose resolve over fear," Clinton said in remarks at the University of Minnesota-Minneapolis. "And we will defeat these new enemies just as we have defeated those who have threatened us in the past, because it is not enough to contain ISIS -- we must defeat ISIS.

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The crowd, which included a number of high-profile Muslim leaders from the Minneapolis area who met with Clinton before the speech, responded with multiple standing ovations when Clinton spoke to the need to work with Muslim-American communities to combat domestic radicalization after the attacks in San Bernardino.

"We cannot give in to fear, we can't let it stop us from doing what is right and necessary to make us safe and doing it in a way that is consistent with our values. We cannot let fear push us into reckless actions that end up making us less safe," Clinton said.

Speaking directly to Muslim-Americans, Clinton said, "This is your country, too, and I am proud to be your fellow American."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/15/politics/hillary-clinton-isis-domestic-terrorism/index.html

[Thinkingabout]

1. The difference between a leader and a stand up comic.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. She might not be the leader America deserves but she's the leader America needs.

!

[Thinkingabout]

3. And need at this time is important.

[bvf]

4. Scary.

We cannot let fear push us into reckless actions that end up making us less safe," Clinton said.

Indeed. That's why I'll be voting for Sanders.

[Broward]

5. Exactly, just one more reason to support Bernie.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Res ipsa loquitur

The crowd, which included a number of high-profile Muslim leaders from the Minneapolis area who met with Clinton before the speech, responded with multiple standing ovations when Clinton spoke to the need to work with Muslim-American communities to combat domestic radicalization after the attacks in San Bernardino.



Speaking directly to Muslim-Americans, Clinton said, "This is your country, too, and I am proud to be your fellow American."

[bvf]

10. Non sequitur.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Res ipsa loquitur (REDUX) with a editorial comment*

The crowd, which included a number of high-profile Muslim leaders from the Minneapolis area who met with Clinton before the speech, responded with multiple standing ovations when Clinton spoke to the need to work with Muslim-American communities to combat domestic radicalization after the attacks in San Bernardino.



Speaking directly to Muslim-Americans, Clinton said, "This is your country, too, and I am proud to be your fellow American."



*Hillary Clinton might not be the leader we deserve but she is the leader we need.

[bvf]

13. Vide super.

[bowens43]

6. hills plan is to burn the Constitution

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Res ipsa loquitur

The crowd, which included a number of high-profile Muslim leaders from the Minneapolis area who met with Clinton before the speech, responded with multiple standing ovations when Clinton spoke to the need to work with Muslim-American communities to combat domestic radicalization after the attacks in San Bernardino.


Speaking directly to Muslim-Americans, Clinton said, "This is your country, too, and I am proud to be your fellow American."

[Todays_Illusion]

9. Hillary calls for more surveilance and I don't think it is a good thing, but it will make the for

for profit intelligence companies happy. Remember that meta data collecting was ruled illegal. Those folks are desperate for their billions of dollars every year. That huge NSA building out in Utah is not staffed with government employees, it is staffed with employees of private for profit from tax money corporations like Booze Allen Hamilton and others who are all busy contributing to the candidates who like war and surveillance.

[riversedge]

16. Clinton did not say anything about meta data collection. But YOU did.

[Todays_Illusion]

20. She only wants to monitor us on line, don't worry be happy.

[riversedge]

26. She did not say that either. Only YOU did.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Erect bogeyman, wave flag, talk tough, cheer the troops, look grim.

Did she sing "God Bless "Murka" to end the show?

[beam me up scottie]

14. Caveat emptor.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Did she put "free speech etcetra" in eye-rolly scare quotes, again?

Its so "inspiring" when she does that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Res ipsa loquitur (REDUX X 2) with a editorial comment*

The crowd, which included a number of high-profile Muslim leaders from the Minneapolis area who met with Clinton before the speech, responded with multiple standing ovations when Clinton spoke to the need to work with Muslim-American communities to combat domestic radicalization after the attacks in San Bernardino.



Speaking directly to Muslim-Americans, Clinton said, "This is your country, too, and I am proud to be your fellow American."

*Hillary Clinton might not be the leader we deserve but she is the leader we need.

[Warren DeMontague]

22. Yeah, and nothing says patriotism, to this American's mind, like the 1st Amemdment.

So you'll excuse me if I dont appreciate it when a former sponsor of flag burning legislation uses "free speech etcetera" as a cue line for her audience to groan and go "ewwwwww"

She wants to promote American values, including religous inclusiveness, great, start with a healthy respect for the 1st Amendment.

Dont pander to the people who want to use terrorism as an excuse to censor twitter hashtags they dont like.

[Kentonio]

27. You've posted that about 5 times now

Is there a point to the spam?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. "You've posted that about 5 times now Is there a point to the spam"

Why do you want to silence me? Is your voice more worthy of being heard than mine? Do I not have feelings ? Censorship is illiberal, isn't it? Do you try to silence people in real life? How does that work out for you?

Thank you in advance for answering my questions.

[Kentonio]

33. Ok, let's give them a go..

"Why do you want to silence me?"

Because you keep posting exactly the same thing over and over again. I would not want to silence you if you didn't keep posting exactly the same thing over and over again.

"Is your voice more worthy of being heard than mine?"

Nope. Not the first time something is said anyway.

"Do I not have feelings?"

I don't know, do you?

"Censorship is illiberal, isn't it?"

I don't know, Hillary keeps supporting it and you keep telling us she's a liberal.

"Do you try to silence people in real life?"

Only if they keep saying exactly the same thing over and over again. I would assume they were drunk or confused.

"How does that work out for you?"

Pretty well really. Most other people also object to constant repetition as it offers nothing interesting or new to a conversation.

Hope this helped.

[Kentonio]

35. Now you have silenced yourself. I feel sad.

[NCTraveler]

18. Clinton has many layers in which she will deal wit ISIS.

While she's doing that she will also work on what the guy who made IS IS famous first was best known for. It's the economy stupid.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. I am getting a vibe here we should ignore ISIS.

I would like to think our president can fight ISIS, protect our civil liberties, and ensure Muslims aren't scapegoated simultaneously.

If my buddies and I are planning on blowing up s--t and sharing those plans over the internet I expect to attract the gaze of the authorities.

[NurseJackie]

31. It's one of Bernie's weaknesses ...

... deflecting and ignoring is to be expected. Such efforts are annoying, but oddly reassuring.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. That is an astute observation that I can not help but concur with.

I do find it puzzling that some of our interlocutors on this board think it is illiberal or unconstitutional to want to find out what the bad guys are up to.

[Betty Karlson]

21. Her plan involves reducing constitutional protections.

What does that tell us about her values?

And if we can't give it to fear, why does she bring up 9/11 every time she is in a tight spot over her ties to Wall Street?

[Warren DeMontague]

23. And why was the other immediate go-to position, besides "censor the internet", to drag out the

ready-made authoritarian Xmas list on getting silicon valley to "cooperate" on encryption, never mind that the recent attack had nothing to do with encryption?

Yeah, values--- what does this tell you about them?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/07/opinion/senator-clinton-in-pander-mode.html

No one ever seems to want to discuss this, or how great it is for our supposedly "progressive" front runner to have proposed such a blatantly unconstitutional law limiting 1st Amendment protected free speech?

[Betty Karlson]

24. That X-mas wish list by the way, could harm the American economy.

Imagine how much revenue Microsoft could lose if the EU consumers are going to say: we don't trust your software anymore.

[Warren DeMontague]

25. of course. Never mind that it's not feasible, anyway.

But basically the authoritarians are pissed that somewhere there's a chemo patient discussing how to grow weed in her basement over an encrypted app, and as such the job of throwing her in prison for getting high is made infinitesimally more difficult- therefore, "we must stop teh terrorists!"

[Bonobo]

28. Is she going to tell the to "cut it out"? nt

[Scuba]

29. "Do what is right and necessary." Yeah, that's some plan.

[cali]

36. She is so full of it.