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George Takei spreads a little love for Bernie: "For those who #FeelTheBern, some welcome news." (Original Post) Bubzer Dec 2015 OP
5th rec. Yeaaaayyyyy. merrily Dec 2015 #1
George who? n/t cosmicone Dec 2015 #2
It's a chart thing, you wouldn't understand. arcane1 Dec 2015 #3
Right. He's a complete unkown. Only 9,294,506 people have liked his page. Almost no one... Bubzer Dec 2015 #5
Everyone knows him--and many know he endorsed Hillary Clinton before she even announced. MADem Dec 2015 #12
There's a key detail in your comment you may be overlooking; "before she even announced" Bubzer Dec 2015 #26
Hillary over crazy. :>)) pangaia Dec 2015 #49
He donates to the Clinton Foundation. He's donated to her campaign. MADem Dec 2015 #63
Hillary should keep an eye on George then. Her dance partner has been dancing with other people. Bubzer Dec 2015 #73
You are going to explain that comment, I'm sure. MADem Dec 2015 #74
You dance with the one what brung you. Politicalboi Dec 2015 #82
Bill Clinton appointed him to the JAFC. MADem Dec 2015 #84
Oh My! Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #8
Geat gif! Like the cat too Bubzer Dec 2015 #32
Thank you - Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #33
He has endorsed HILLARY. That's why he said "For those who...." MADem Dec 2015 #10
Ohhhhhh .. THAT George from StarTrek !!! <snigger> n/t cosmicone Dec 2015 #20
Points for using a real word that sounds terrible. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #34
wow. George who ... sad roguevalley Dec 2015 #17
Right. Even a hint of endorsing Bernie and he goes right under the bus. *smh* Bubzer Dec 2015 #30
This is why no one trusts what you say Android3.14 Dec 2015 #23
They are playing their assigned role. Poorly, yes, but playing it nonetheless n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #24
A Hillary supporter who happened to share some positive Bernie-related news. WIProgressive88 Dec 2015 #25
Well we won't expect you to know the yuiyoshida Dec 2015 #35
I was being facetious Yui cosmicone Dec 2015 #38
That's a verygood endorsement! More than a drop, but less than a shot ... in a big big BIG bucket... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #4
No single endorsement is ever enough alone...but they add up. Bubzer Dec 2015 #6
I know. Takei is a good one. NurseJackie Dec 2015 #7
It's great that he's endorsed Clinton!!! nt MADem Dec 2015 #14
This makes me happy. Glad to know it! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #37
It's not quite an endorsement. MADem is considering a comment from before the candidates ran. Bubzer Dec 2015 #42
He's certainly been gracious enough to say positive things about both candidates. He's class act! Bubzer Dec 2015 #31
He's also a Hillary Clinton supporter. He's a nice guy, so he's nice to "those who support Bernie MADem Dec 2015 #11
I totally missed that. Did I misread or skim too quickly? NurseJackie Dec 2015 #36
GT is a nice guy--he doesn't get into that whole MADem Dec 2015 #58
Thanks! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #59
Ha--very cool! nt MADem Dec 2015 #61
Saying "those who support Bernie Sanders" isn't the implied "I'm not one of them" you think it is. Bubzer Dec 2015 #46
Takei is a "Hillary Clinton supporter from way back." MADem Dec 2015 #57
More than a year ago. People change their mind all the time. Just look to your candidate for proof. Bubzer Dec 2015 #72
His donations to the Clinton Foundation, his speeches on behalf of the foundation, MADem Dec 2015 #75
MADem, go read what I posted. Seriously, go read it. Did you see me claim he endorsed Bernie? No. Bubzer Dec 2015 #83
He's endorsed Hillary, though. George Takei, I mean. MADem Dec 2015 #9
Nobody is saying he endorsed Sanders n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #13
That's good--because he hasn't. nt MADem Dec 2015 #15
How many times do you need to say it in one thread? arcane1 Dec 2015 #16
You can put me on ignore if it bothers you, you know--you don't have to be subjected to MADem Dec 2015 #18
Thank you for proving my point. arcane1 Dec 2015 #21
Hilarious, isn't it? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #40
I'm reminded of a crude joke boys used to tell in the bathroom in middle school: arcane1 Dec 2015 #52
Lol! Perfect! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #53
What "truth," BMUS? MADem Dec 2015 #60
Omg, you can't stand that he said something positive about Bernie, can you? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #62
"OMG," I think it's 'GREAT' that Takei is a decent human being MADem Dec 2015 #64
Your mind reading abilities are always a great source of amusement. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #65
I do know what he thinks--because he tells us, and it gets published. nt MADem Dec 2015 #66
Of course you do, must be that mind meld thingy. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #67
No, it's that "read the written word" thingy! MADem Dec 2015 #68
Adorable. :) beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #69
Yes, indeedy! MADem Dec 2015 #70
I'm just thrilled George is a Bernie supporter, what a great op! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #71
You keep believing that, if it's important to you. MADem Dec 2015 #79
Repetition, repetition artislife Dec 2015 #54
A couple dozen. While rocking back and forth, clutching a landline-only poll. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2015 #77
He certainly does speak positivly of hillary, just as he does Bernie... but neither is an endorsment Bubzer Dec 2015 #19
But this is... brooklynite Dec 2015 #22
That changes nothing. Bubzer Dec 2015 #28
...from the "Warren has't said she WON'T run for President..." line of reasoning. brooklynite Dec 2015 #41
I'll say it again; actions speak louder than words. He's made several Bernie supportive posts. Bubzer Dec 2015 #43
I love his site... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #27
lol... nice Bubzer Dec 2015 #29
Oh my! The news really upset some people in this thread. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #39
George is really a class act! He's pro people, and is a true gentleman. Bubzer Dec 2015 #44
He really is! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #47
While he endorsed Clinton Robbins Dec 2015 #45
George never endorsed her. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #48
I thought he had Robbins Dec 2015 #50
The quote that he would support her was from November 2014. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #51
He's been with the Clintons since POTUS Bill named him MADem Dec 2015 #76
In other words, exactly what the OP says n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #78
No. nt MADem Dec 2015 #80
Yes. The OP makes no claim that Takei endorsed Sanders. It's a figment. arcane1 Dec 2015 #81
He's a right winger Doctor_J Dec 2015 #55
kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #56

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. Everyone knows him--and many know he endorsed Hillary Clinton before she even announced.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:24 PM
Dec 2015

He's tossing a bone to "those who" favor Sanders by providing a link, but BS is not his candidate.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
26. There's a key detail in your comment you may be overlooking; "before she even announced"
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:45 PM
Dec 2015

That also means before Bernie announced. If Bernie hadn't announced, I would have chosen hillary as well...lesser of the evils and all that. But circumstances have changed. I haven't seen a single pro hillary comment from him since Bernie decided to run. Plenty of pro Bernie posts though.

Lastly, saying that of course he'd choose hillary over crazy is not exactly an endorsement. It's merely stating the obvious.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
49. Hillary over crazy. :>))
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:10 PM
Dec 2015


Why, my goodness, I hear that she would even beat Trump!!

Well shit, I sure hope so...



MADem

(135,425 posts)
63. He donates to the Clinton Foundation. He's donated to her campaign.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 04:23 PM
Dec 2015

He served as US ambassador to the Japanese-American Friendship Commission for two terms, appointed by POTUS Bill Clinton.

They go back a ways. You dance with the one what brung you.

There's a reason for that "those who" language he is using--he's not one of "those who," but -- because he is a decent man -- he's not going to mock or deride those who are and he's going to be respectful of their candidate choice. Wouldn't it be nice if more people would take a cue from him?

But bottom line is this--he's in Clinton's corner. Always has been, always will be. They go back to the nineties together.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
73. Hillary should keep an eye on George then. Her dance partner has been dancing with other people.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 05:50 PM
Dec 2015

MADem

(135,425 posts)
74. You are going to explain that comment, I'm sure.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:07 PM
Dec 2015

I'll wait.



Bubzer
73. Hillary should keep an eye on George then.
Her dance partner has been dancing with other people.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
82. You dance with the one what brung you.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:26 PM
Dec 2015


He brung himself way before we even heard of Bill and Hillary. He's not riding on his husbands coattails so to speak. He did it all by himself. They used his celebrity.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
84. Bill Clinton appointed him to the JAFC.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:33 PM
Dec 2015

He was very happy to get that appointment, and he did a lot of good with it. It provided him with a platform upon which to prosecute his POV about internment, which he endured as a child, and culminated quite recently in his wonderful play on the topic, which I hope becomes a film.

They have helped one another down the years, and they genuinely like each other. GT has given speeches on behalf of the CF and has donated to that organization as well. They're on the same page, much as that might disappoint some.

Hillary has more years of federal experience than her husband has. So what was that about "coattails?"

smh. Keep denigrating, though--it won't change a thing save serve to underscore the abject disappointment down the line.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. He has endorsed HILLARY. That's why he said "For those who...."
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:22 PM
Dec 2015

He endorsed her before she even announced.
He's not one of "those who..." you see.

Oh, myyyyy!

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
23. This is why no one trusts what you say
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:38 PM
Dec 2015

Either you know who George Takei is, which means you are misleading us, or you don't know who George Takei is which makes any comment you might have about pop culture, race and LGBT issues invalid.

WIProgressive88

(314 posts)
25. A Hillary supporter who happened to share some positive Bernie-related news.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:40 PM
Dec 2015

Kind of petty that that's enough for a loyal Hillary supporter to earn your contempt, isn't it?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. That's a verygood endorsement! More than a drop, but less than a shot ... in a big big BIG bucket...
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:07 PM
Dec 2015

that's still very empty. (Or, if you're an optimist, Bernie's endorsement-bucket is 1% FULL!)

I like George Takei, he's very amusing and socially active.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
42. It's not quite an endorsement. MADem is considering a comment from before the candidates ran.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:25 PM
Dec 2015

He's referring to this comment:

Star Trek's George Takei: I'd 'absolutely' back Clinton

If Hillary Clinton decides to make a second run for president, she can count on Captain Sulu among her supporters: “Star Trek” star George Takei says he’s firmly on Team Hillary.


I later made the following comment:

"If Hillary Clinton decides to make a second run for president", meaning she hadn't announced yet... meaning also, Bernie had not announced yet. This is still just a case of stating the obvious; of course all dems would vote for her over crazy, if she was the only dem running. But she hasn't been for a long time now...and since that's been the case, George has repeatedly made some very positive posts favoring Bernie... and none favoring hillary. You do the math.


Make no mistake, though, what he said regarding Clinton was very positive! It's just that his comments since Bernie announced aren't consistent with his comment at that time.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
31. He's certainly been gracious enough to say positive things about both candidates. He's class act!
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:56 PM
Dec 2015


And you're right, his sense of humor is wonderful!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. He's also a Hillary Clinton supporter. He's a nice guy, so he's nice to "those who support Bernie
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:23 PM
Dec 2015

Sanders."

He's not one of them, though.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. GT is a nice guy--he doesn't get into that whole
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 04:09 PM
Dec 2015

"hate the opposition" game that some people get into. He's a decent human being who doesn't think it's necessary to put someone down to bring someone else up. I like his attitude!

That said, he's on Team Hillary and has been for a long time, even before she announced.
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/223362-star-trek-star-id-absolutely-back-hillary
Anyone who tries to make this very clear parsing of words more than it is, either doesn't know Takei very well or is looking to pot stir a bit.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
59. Thanks!
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 04:17 PM
Dec 2015

I loved hearing about his "Okay to be Takei" response to the Tennessee school ban on the word "gay".

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
46. Saying "those who support Bernie Sanders" isn't the implied "I'm not one of them" you think it is.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:36 PM
Dec 2015

I could use that statement as a Bernie supporter and it would literally mean the context applies to those who're Bernie supporters...nothing more, nothing less.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
57. Takei is a "Hillary Clinton supporter from way back."
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 03:53 PM
Dec 2015

He and his spouse support her for POTUS. He has said as much, more than once.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
72. More than a year ago. People change their mind all the time. Just look to your candidate for proof.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 05:48 PM
Dec 2015

MADem

(135,425 posts)
75. His donations to the Clinton Foundation, his speeches on behalf of the foundation,
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:09 PM
Dec 2015

and his association with both Bill and Hillary Clinton (to include donations) are recent, and go back over two decades.

I doubt he's feeling the Bern. If you want to think that, though, you go right ahead.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
83. MADem, go read what I posted. Seriously, go read it. Did you see me claim he endorsed Bernie? No.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:29 PM
Dec 2015

But to claim he's endorsing Clinton based on a comment and actions from well over a year ago is absurd. Particularly in light of George repeatedly saying some very nice things about Bernie, and virtually nothing about hillary. So, unless you can show where he says "I endorse hillary" or "I still endorse hillary" since both she and Bernie started the campaign trail, please just stop.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. He's endorsed Hillary, though. George Takei, I mean.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:20 PM
Dec 2015

That's why he said "For those who..."

He's not one of 'em. He declared his support for her before she even announced.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/230833/george-takei-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-2016/


On Thursday, actor George Takei, known for his role as Sulu in the “Star Trek” franchise as well as an occasional announcer on “The Howard Stern Show,” came right out of the gate with his support for the supposed front-running Democratic presidential candidate in 2016.

“We’re Hillary supporters from way back,” Takei said at an appearance in Washington. (“We’re” refers to both Takei and his husband, Brad.) The actor added that he would “absolutely” vote for Clinton if she decided to run–all this knowingly in the face of the several points of which Republicans are prime to attack the former Secretary of State.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
18. You can put me on ignore if it bothers you, you know--you don't have to be subjected to
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:31 PM
Dec 2015

ANYTHING I say ever, at all, not even for a second!

YOU control your DU experience!

So yeah ....

The one who seems to be "sensitive" is the one who is bothered by a person having conversations with someone ... other than YOU? Surely you're not trying to tell me with whom I'm allowed to converse, are you?





beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
40. Hilarious, isn't it?
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:23 PM
Dec 2015

I've never seen anyone so stubbornly refuse to accept the truth on DU.

And that's saying a lot.

It's like watching a kid stick his fingers in his ears and scream "lalalala I can't hear you!"

Besides George didn't "endorse" Hillary in that year old article, just said that he'll support her if she runs.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
52. I'm reminded of a crude joke boys used to tell in the bathroom in middle school:
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:20 PM
Dec 2015

"If you shake it more than twice, you're playing with yourself."

MADem

(135,425 posts)
60. What "truth," BMUS?
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 04:18 PM
Dec 2015
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/223362-star-trek-star-id-absolutely-back-hillary

Check his donation history--he's even given to The Clinton Foundation.

This is not surprising--he's known the Clintons for many years. Bill Clinton appointed him to the Japan-US Friendship commission when he was POTUS, so they go back a long, long way.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
62. Omg, you can't stand that he said something positive about Bernie, can you?
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 04:21 PM
Dec 2015

I am so enjoying this thread.


MADem

(135,425 posts)
64. "OMG," I think it's 'GREAT' that Takei is a decent human being
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 04:27 PM
Dec 2015

who can regard a POTUS contest in a mature, adult fashion and pass on pleasant news to his fans who support someone he's not backing in a positive and friendly way.

It would be great if more people would take his POV, wouldn't it?

That said, he's a Clinton supporter--make no mistake.

Hope that doesn't trouble you too much. OMG, and all....

Glad you're enjoying the thread! It's wonderful to see someone enjoying themselves, no matter what the source of the enjoyment...

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
65. Your mind reading abilities are always a great source of amusement.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 04:31 PM
Dec 2015

Zipping up and down this thread telling everyone that you know what George Takai thinks - priceless.


beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
67. Of course you do, must be that mind meld thingy.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 05:25 PM
Dec 2015

Such an active imagination - good for you, keeps you young!


MADem

(135,425 posts)
68. No, it's that "read the written word" thingy!
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 05:30 PM
Dec 2015


And yes, reading DOES keep the mind young--I recommend it heartily.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
54. Repetition, repetition
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:25 PM
Dec 2015

That was an old style of learning, by rote.
However....

Rote learning is a method of education in which students are taught to memorize and recite basic facts, often through a great deal of repetition. This is as opposed to critical thinking or problem solving, in which students are forced to apply the concepts they have learned to theoretical or example problems. There are some pros to rote learning, primarily that students are able to quickly recall these basic facts when asked. The downside is that with a lack of critical thinking application, students may have trouble applying the facts they have learned to real-world situations. They may also not really understand the more advanced concepts behind the memorization.

Experts generally agree that to a certain point, rote learning is important and necessary. For instance, students need to memorize things such as the alphabet and how to spell words. On the other hand, when it comes to proper grammar usage, it is much more important to understand the concepts and principles than simply memorizing a series of complicated rules. Students also need to learn basic math such as their multiplication tables by rote, but they also need to understand more advanced concepts in order to solve more complex mathematical problems. Thus, rote learning builds the foundation so students can learn more difficult concepts, and this is the biggest "pro" of this method of instruction.


http://www.wisegeekedu.com/what-are-the-pro-and-cons-of-rote-learning.htm

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
19. He certainly does speak positivly of hillary, just as he does Bernie... but neither is an endorsment
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:31 PM
Dec 2015

He did make an endorsement... Gil Fulbright: Honest Politician
https://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei/videos/1386534934709289/

But no, www.deathandtaxesmag.com is suckering you in with click-bait on claiming George endorsed Hillary.

brooklynite

(94,679 posts)
22. But this is...
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:35 PM
Dec 2015
The Hill:

Star Trek's George Takei: I'd 'absolutely' back Clinton

If Hillary Clinton decides to make a second run for president, she can count on Captain Sulu among her supporters: “Star Trek” star George Takei says he’s firmly on Team Hillary.

“We’re Hillary supporters from way back,” the social media whiz — who boasts nearly 8 million Facebook fans — exclaimed, appearing to include husband Brad Takei as a fan of the former secretary of State.


Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
28. That changes nothing.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 06:51 PM
Dec 2015

"If Hillary Clinton decides to make a second run for president", meaning she hadn't announced yet... meaning also, Bernie had not announced yet. This is still just a case of stating the obvious; of course all dems would vote for her over crazy, if she was the only dem running. But she hasn't been for a long time now...and since that's been the case, George has repeatedly made some very positive posts favoring Bernie... and none favoring hillary. You do the math.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
43. I'll say it again; actions speak louder than words. He's made several Bernie supportive posts.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:27 PM
Dec 2015

None for hillary. You do the math.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
39. Oh my! The news really upset some people in this thread.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:19 PM
Dec 2015

They're acting like six year olds who've been told they have to share and are having a tantrum.

I don't see where George endorsed either, looks like he supports both which is wonderful.

Thanks for posting!


Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
44. George is really a class act! He's pro people, and is a true gentleman.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:32 PM
Dec 2015

I respect him no matter who he officially endorses.
Certain Hillary supporters can't seem to get passed the idea that he hasn't officially endorsed either Bernie or hillary.

He did endorse Gil Fulbright though!
https://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei/videos/1386534934709289/

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
47. He really is!
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:36 PM
Dec 2015

I love how he's always on the right (or should I say left!) side of every issue. And how he keeps it classy.

If he decides to endorse Hillary I'll be fine with it, I know, like and respect a lot of decent people who support her.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
45. While he endorsed Clinton
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:33 PM
Dec 2015

I feel like he is one who when bernie wins nomination would support him In GE

He is kind of clinton supporter i can respect.he hasn't bashed Bernie and his supporters.

He knows first hand the dangers of extremists since as child he was in japanese Internment camp.And even though he acted in green berets he supported the anti-vietnam war movement and civil rights movement.

He should consider changing his mind since he and bernie were of same mind In 1960's

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
48. George never endorsed her.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 07:41 PM
Dec 2015

He said last November that he would support her if she ran and could have been referring to the ge.

Looks like he supports both candidates which is great too!

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
50. I thought he had
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:15 PM
Dec 2015

Is wore he was on list of celebs who endorsed her.I guess i was wrong if that's the case.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
51. The quote that he would support her was from November 2014.
Sat Dec 12, 2015, 08:18 PM
Dec 2015

But her supporters count it as an endorsement anyway.

I just think it's hilarious that they're all over this thread pitching a fit because he said something nice about Bernie - and this isn't the first time.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
76. He's been with the Clintons since POTUS Bill named him
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 06:13 PM
Dec 2015

twice to the Japanese - American Friendship Commission. He has given speeches for the Clinton Foundation, he has donated to the Clinton campaigns, and he has also donated to the CF.

He's -- quite simply -- not endorsing Sanders. He's posting a blurb for his fans who are "those who" support the guy.

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