AS TRUMP RISES, CLINTON PREACHES LOVE AND KINDNESS *

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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* ON EDIT

I DIDN'T THINK I NEEDED TO CITE THE FACT THAT I CITED THE ARTICLE TITLE VERBATIM WHICH WAS CAPITALIZED SINCE I CITED THE TITLE AGAIN VERBATIM IN THE BODY OF THE POST!!!



"(Trigger Warning: This OP contains positive content regarding HRC)"

-1StrongBlackMan

AS TRUMP RISES, CLINTON PREACHES LOVE AND KINDNESS

BY LISA LERER AND KEN THOMAS
ASSOCIATED PRESS

URBANDALE, Iowa (AP) -- Hillary Clinton had just delivered some hard talk on terrorism, recalling tough decisions she made in the White House situation room as secretary of state and lashing out at her Republican rivals for threatening the safety of the American people.

But when an Iowa man broke into her riff with a question about how the country could confront a new wave of fear, her response sounded less like that of a commander in chief than of a soothing self-help guru. "We've got to do everything we can to weed out hate and plant love and kindness," she told a crowd of several hundred.

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http://tinyurl.com/hhbapg5

[SunSeeker]

1. K & R

[Betty Karlson]

2. SO DOES SANDERS, SO DOES O'MALLEY

She's not a unique Democartto deliver this message.

And once more, she isn't the first either. She's a follower, not a leader.

But I'm glad that she got this issue right straight away.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. THEN START YOUR OWN THREAD ...

So DOES SANDERS, SO DOES O'MALLEY

THEN START YOUR OWN THREAD


Love,
DSB


P.S. I would be remiss if I didn't thank you for inspiring me to find another positive article on Hillary Clinton. Thank you.

[ibegurpard]

12. you could always find a board

Devoted only to HRC. Sorry not sorry you don't get to choose who responds to you on a public message board.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Love is in the air

[ibegurpard]

18. Not at HRC campaign headquarters it's not

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. I am filled with love this morning

[George II]

26. Even a post about love and kindness generates snarky, essentially "so what" responses. Sad that.

[roguevalley]

46. I remember a post about bernie eating

Lunch with killer Mike that got shit on. Your selective outrage is noted.

[pocoloco]

28. LOL Her really loves her some Wall Street cronies!!!

http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-is-whitewashing-the-financial-catastrophe/

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. Why Can't We Be Friends

[RandySF]

76. +1

[DemocratSinceBirth]

78. You don't see ole DSB trying to censor or censure anybody.

[newfie11]

4. Very true!!! Nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Then you and her should start your own thread...

We can use more threads on love:

Love,
DSB

[treestar]

6. Is repeating the follower not a leader language working?

I want my elected officials to represent us, not "lead" us.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Sad how some hijacked my post on love.

[treestar]

9. gets you wondering who the weeds are

some too busy hating I guess

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. "If people can learn to hate they can be taught to love..."

gets you wondering who the weeds are some too busy hating I guess

[NurseJackie]

11. The all-caps nannies have yet to arrive, I see.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Unlike the OTHER thread I cited the title verbatim

To all my nemeses on the "internets" I give them this:

[Hekate]

93. I LOVE a man who can spell the plural of nemesis correctly on the first go!

Now I'm going to have The Beatles "All You Need is Love" for an ear worm the rest of the day. Could be worse!


for HRC
for all those in need of some positive attitude adjustment

[Hekate]

94. I'm PRACTICING random caps locks so I can FIT in with the cool KIDS better

Happy Holidays to one and all

[pangaia]

38. Your post was not about love and you know it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. Yes it was, yes it was, yes it was

[riversedge]

13. Betty--such bitterness on a great love thread. Shameful.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Who would have thought a thread about love would engender such hate?

[Betty Karlson]

23. You may be right. I am bitter today.

I am going to take your reprimand as a sign to stop posting until I feel better.

Thank you.

[riversedge]

27. You are welcome

[pnwmom]

48. Sanders, an agnostic, never sounds like he might be a Methodist preacher.

Or a Catholic nun -- in his choice of language -- although his goals are in keeping with the Judeo/Christian message.

[Agnosticsherbet]

81. He does sound like a number of Rabbi's I've known.

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[ibegurpard]

8. where?

The media that covers only Trump? The point of which Clinton supporters are attacking Bernie for pointing out?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Where is the love?

[riversedge]

10. Special: @HillaryClinton speaking to full house in Salem, calling for more love & kindness

Yes she does say this ...I had posted this tweet a few days ago
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251888972









FROM DEC 8 Tuesday in Salam, NH***
Adam Parkhomenko Retweeted
Julie McClain ?@McClainJulie 22h22 hours ago

Special: @HillaryClinton speaking to full house in Salem, calling for more love & kindness #HillaryinNH #nhpolitics






http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEM_2016_CLINTON_LOVE_AND_KINDNESS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-11-04-12-24


Dec 11, 2:47 PM EST

As Trump rises, Clinton preaches love and kindness

By LISA LERER and KEN THOMAS

...........Today, Clinton rarely ends her remarks without asking her audience to consider adding some "love and kindness" to their daily lives. The line entered her stump speech as an ad-libbed aside during an address to mayors days after the Charleston church shooting in June.

"It may be unusual for a presidential candidate to say we need more love and kindness in this country, but I think that's exactly what we need," she said in New Hampshire on Tuesday.

Her approach - and the implicit contrast with Trump - has attracted some people.

"I had hesitation about what I thought was a kind of hardness in her but she doesn't have that in person," said Terry Matre, a family therapist in West Des Moines. "When you think about what Donald Trump is saying and then you think about her, you're like, my God what took me so long."....................

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. This thread made me change my signature line. What do you think?

EOM

[pangaia]

40. This means to love your INNER enemies.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. I don't think so...

[pangaia]

53. I stand by my statement.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. As is your right.

A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

-Proverbs 14

[riversedge]

86. Well, it will probably just invite more rude comments IMHO

[DemocratSinceBirth]

87. With friends like you and ISBM the unkind words don't bother me.

[reformist2]

22. And next time we bomb a foreign country, will they be called "love bombs"?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Lock me away...I can't live in a world without love.

[treestar]

25. Terrorists hate a lot, too

Maybe they should learn something about love, they seem to have never heard of it.

No one wants to bomb anyone and they aren't effective strategy, but don't pretend it isn't an effort, if misguided, to stamp out terrorism.

[Divernan]

32. She voted pro-cluster bomb. Uspinnable fact!

http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-03-18/article/29503

Commentary: Hillary Clinton’s Shameful Vote on Cluster Bombs
By Paul Rockwell
Tuesday March 18, 2008

In her autobiography, Living History, Senator Hillary Clinton portrays herself as an advocate for children, a defender of women and human rights. In fact, the Clintons have a long history of sacrificing the rights, even the lives of children, for political expediency. It is time to set the record straight.

On September 6, 2006, a Senate bill—a simple amendment to ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas—presented Senator Clinton with a timely opportunity to protect the lives of children throughout the world. The cluster bomb is one of the most hated and heinous weapons in modern war, and its primary victims are children.

Senator Obama voted for the amendment to ban cluster bombs. Senator Clinton, however, voted with the Republicans to kill the humanitarian bill, an amendment in accord with the Geneva Conventions, which already prohibit the use of indiscriminate weapons in populated areas.

All senators are expected to inform themselves on the issues before they cast a vote. The evidence is overwhelming. It is hard to believe that Senator Clinton was unaware of the humanitarian crisis when she voted to continue the use of cluster bombs in cities and populated areas. A U.N. weapons commission called cluster bombs “weapons of indiscriminate effect.” For years the international press reported the horrific consequences of cluster bombs on civilians. On April 10, 2003, for example, Asia Times described the carnage in Baghdad hospitals: “The absolute majority of patients are women and children, victims of shrapnel, and most of all, fragments of cluster bombs.” Reporting from a hospital in Hillah, The Mirror, a British newspaper, became graphic: “Shrapnel peppered their bodies. Blackened the skin. Smashed heads. Tore limbs. A doctor reports that ‘all the injuries you see were caused by cluster bombs. The majority of the victims were children who died because they were outside.’”

Even after wars subside, after treaties are signed, after belligerents return home, cluster bombs wreak havoc on civilian life. Up to 20 percent of the bomblets fail to detonate on the first round, only to become landmines that later explode on playgrounds and farmlands. Children are drawn to cluster bomb canisters, the deadly duds that look like beer cans or toys before they explode.

[Kentonio]

71. I'm still waiting to see someone try and actually defend that.

Truly horrible vote.

[notadmblnd]

30. Talking the talk and walking the walk are two different things

I have often found that those who preach- are generally the biggest sinners.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. That's where grace comes in

I have often found that those who preach- are generally the biggest sinners.

Amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me

[notadmblnd]

33. I guess that works if one is of the mind that it is ok to steal, cheat and lie as

long as one claims to be saved. However, there is a verse I recall one should heed if indeed they're saved as they claim.

John 8:11 "Go forth and sin no more"


That is the difference in talking and walking.

Grace- my patootie

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. Romans 3:23

guess that works if one is of the mind that it is ok to steal, cheat and lie as long as one claims to be saved. However, there is a verse I recall one should heed if indeed they're saved as they claim.

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

[notadmblnd]

37. Those are words of Paul/Saul not Christ

Christ the son of God, not Saul the tax collector who saw an opportunity to exploit Christ's followers.

So I guess- if one believes that the words of Paul supersedes the words of Christ, I guess it is ok to lie, cheat and steal as long as one claims to be saved.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. Au contraire

So I guess- if one believes that the words of Paul supersedes the words of Christ, I guess it is ok to lie, cheat and steal as long as one claims to be saved.

If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.

2 Peter 20-22

[notadmblnd]

62. The book of Romans was written by Paul

Paul was a tax collector until he saw an opportunity to exploit Christs followers and claimed to have encountered Jesus on the road to Damascus-

Saul did everything he could to try and stop the growth of Christianity. In fact, when Stephen (the first recorded Christian martyr in the New Testament) was killed, Saul was there (watching the cloaks of those who were stoning Stephen.)

On the day Stephen was martyred, a great persecution broke out against the Christian Church in Jerusalem and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria. At that time, Saul began to destroy the Church. Going from house to house , he dragged off Christian men and women and put them in prison. Eventually he obtained letters from the Jewish religious leaders to Jews in Damascus and he went there to bring the Christians (known as followers of the Way at that time) back to Jerusalem to be punished.

About noon, as he came near to Damascus, suddenly a bright light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, 'Saul! Saul! Why do you persecute Me?' Who are you Lord?' He asked. I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting.' Next, Jesus instructed Saul to get up and go into Damascus.

Because of the brilliance of the bright light, Saul had been blinded. For three days he could not see (his companions had to lead him into Damascus by hand.)

While in Damascus, Jesus instructed a devout follower of the Way to pray for Saul in order that his sight be restored. When he did, immediately Saul could see. Saul was told that he would be Jesus' witness to all men of what he had seen and heard. At that time, Saul got up and was baptized a follower of Christ Jesus. Saul was to become known as the apostle to the Gentiles (non-Jews) whereas Peter was called the apostle to the Jews. https://www.blueletterbible.org/study/intros/romans.cfm

It is a myth that Paul and the Apostles of Christ were unanimous in their preaching of Jesus. The Apostles heard that Paul had been preaching a different doctrine in Galatia and Corinthia. Paul was telling them not to follow the law anymore and that they didn't have to eat kosher meat be circumcised (according to Genesis 17::14, the covenant is broken if there is no circumcision).So the Apostles went to Galatia and Corinthia and convinced everyone that Paul was wrong, when Paul heard about this he went back to those cities. Below is Pauls reply.

Galatians 1:6

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel.

Galatians 2:11-21
Paul Opposes Peter

11 When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. 12 Before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group

These two verses show that Paul was teaching a different doctrine than Peter and the other disciples. Peter was a disciple of Christ and would have know better than Paul what Jesus had to say.

There were no witnesses to the event of Paul's claimed meeting with Jesus in the desert. So again, I guess it is ok to lie, cheat and steal as long as you believe that what Paul wrote takes precedence over what Jesus Christ himself has been credited with saying as long as one claims to be saved.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

64. I am aware of Paul's work and origin

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

-Hebrew 11:1

[notadmblnd]

65. again, another letter written to the Hebrews by Paul.

nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. Proverbs 3:5

Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding

[notadmblnd]

67. Exactly, trust in the LORD not Paul.

nt

[okasha]

90. As long as we're arguing details,

Saul was an officer of the Sanhedrin, not a taxcollector. His vision is said to have occurred on the road to Damascus, not in the desert.

[notadmblnd]

91. The road to Damascus is in the Desert.

In fact 70 miles of the road- nothing but desert.

You have a nice day now.

[whereisjustice]

35. Here is Hillary spreading love and kindness in Libya

So very Presidential.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. Love is a many splendored thing

Thanks for kicking my thread.

[notadmblnd]

39. Yrah, the kindness and love just oozed out of that one

[whereisjustice]

42. Hillary's Libya policy was a disaster, so many dead and displaced, now an ISIS stronghold

why would anyone want to have someone who exercised such horrible judgement as President of US?

[notadmblnd]

63. Because they still believe that one day they can become members of her club aka the 1%.

Oh, and she's a woman.

[Ino]

44. Yah, you can tell the Bible is her favorite book!

At the risk of appearing predictable, the Bible was and remains the biggest influence on my thinking. I was raised reading it, memorizing passages from it and being guided by it. I still find it a source of wisdom, comfort and encouragement.

She really will say ANYTHING, won't she?! Shameless.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

49. Yes to she was able to share the Gospel extemporaneously with a stranger

Columbia, South Carolina (CNN)Hillary Clinton is a lifelong Methodist, but you wouldn't know that by listening to most of her speeches. She rarely speaks -- at least at any length -- about her faith.

But the presidential candidate broke with that tradition on Wednesday when she reflected on her religious study and background, during an impromptu conversation with Rev. Frederick Donnie Hunt at Main Street Bakery.

Hunt came to the yellow-walled bakery to enjoy a sweet treat while he studied the Bible, unaware -- he said after -- that a presidential candidate was about to visit. His quiet reflection was abruptly turned upside down when around 20 press and campaign staff rolled into the bakery with Clinton.

"We are heading out of town and we were told to stop by and get some good stuff to take with us," Clinton said as she walked through the door, flanked by dozens of cupcakes and cakes.

After chatting with the bakery's staff and picking out some cupcakes for the road, the presidential candidate sidled up to Hunt and asked him what he was studying.


"Corinthians 13," Hunt said calmly, almost nonplussed by the candidate.

"Oh I know it well," Clinton said.

"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud," the passage says.

Clinton told Hunt about her religious history and commended him for his continued study.

"You're doing what is the most important thing to do, it's continuing to study and learn what the scripture says and what it means," she said. "I have a preacher friend who sends me scripture and devotionals, sometimes mini-sermons every day."


http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/27/politics/hillary-clinton-2016-election-faith/

I couldn't extemporaneously discuss mechanical engineering. Why? Because I don't know the first thing about it.


But thanks for kicking my thread. Since love is the topic of this thread may I just say

[whereisjustice]

54. "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head..."

1 Corinthians 11:5

Oh well, it's not her head, it's her nose for money.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

55. That's only if you literally interpret the Bible ...

That's only if you literally interpret the Bible and believe the "woman’s head is to be covered to acknowledge that she was made of man, and that she is in subjection to him."

Do you literally interpret every Bible verse?

[whereisjustice]

59. That's why I would never put one in my sig line. How about you?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

61. Because that verse should be taken literally. Do you disagree?

[whereisjustice]

69. I believe religious pandering is not an attribute of good moral character

[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. Who is pandering?

EOM

[whereisjustice]

50. wonder if she memorized this idiotic bible verse...

"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord.&quot Deuteronomy 23:1)

What is it with religions and their need to regulate people's private parts?

[Ed Suspicious]

43. .

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

47. Punctuation matters

[1StrongBlackMan]

52. Wow ... See why we can't have nice things? ...

I wonder if they wake up that way; or, if there is a HRC trigger.

Perhaps you should post:

&quot Trigger Warning: This OP contains positive content regarding HRC)"

Thereby allowing the faithful to be spared.

[whereisjustice]

58. IDK, maybe it's PTSD from stupid, sensless deaths and chaos from the wars she endorses?

[1StrongBlackMan]

72. I didn't know anyone on DU has been in a position to suffer ...

PSTD from those senseless deaths and wars.

I guess some have the "vicarious experience" gene that allows them to experience PTSD, from afar ... just as it enables them to be male and know what is best for females, or white and know what is best for PoC.

[whereisjustice]

96. Democrats become desensititized to the death and destruction of neo-cons like Hillary

and irony. All at the same time. Amazing.

[1StrongBlackMan]

97. I disagree ...

No one has been desensitized to death and destruction.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. Is this song appropriate, bro,

[PatrickforO]

56. That was our media talking.

Good for Clinton.

But did you notice there was NO mention of Bernie. The corporate owned author of this article omitted the quote they could have used from Sanders when he was on Jimmy Fallon just a couple days ago. It would have fit right in.

[ismnotwasm]

68. I like this

With all the talk of "press"--Trump's outrageous statements make news. Hillary has the perfect response to that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

73. It's one of my favorite things, ismnotwasm

[ismnotwasm]

74. Heh!

Yes!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

75. We need to spread more love around...

[Purveyor]

77. Oh yeah. Just a bundle of love, she. Hillary Clinton on Gaddafi: We came, we saw, he died

[DemocratSinceBirth]

79. This board needs more love and ole DSB is here to supply it.

[Purveyor]

88. If it doesn't involve puppies, forget it.

[Sunlei]

80. I LOVE YOU

[DemocratSinceBirth]

82. I love you too, Sunlei

Mahal kita.


...



The more love the better for only "love can conquer hate."

[Agnosticsherbet]

83. Great to see something postive.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

85. Accentuate the positive

[Iliyah]

84. Thanks DSB!

Enjoying the videos as well.

[riversedge]

89. Why does @CoryBooker support @HillaryClinton? Because "she will lead with honor and love!" #

Julie McClain ?@McClainJulie 5h5 hours ago

Why does @CoryBooker support @HillaryClinton? Because "she will lead with honor and love!" #WeekofAction #nhpolitics pic.twitter.com/I7FeSs9wBr


:large

[ibegurpard]

92. Because they are both corporate cronies

[Hekate]

95. What a great concept. The day looks better already.

Of course, I just finished my morning pot of coffee