2016 Postmortem
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The campaign of Bernie Sanders says that theres been a Bernie blackout on broadcast network newscasts, claiming that theyve ignored him compared to major presidential candidates.
The campaign issued a press release on Friday Why the Bernie Blackout on Corporate Network News? and cited figures from the Tyndall Report showing that he has gotten just a fraction of the attention Donald Trump has. Sanders has drawn 10 minutes of coverage to Trumps 234 minutes
The campaign makes the point that Trump draws 20%-30% support among primary voters, the same level as Sanders. But ABCs World News Tonight has devoted 81 minutes to Trumps campaign, compared to just 20 second for Sanders, through the end of November. Sanders drew 2.9 minutes of coverage on NBC Nightly News and 6.4 minutes on the CBS Evening News, according to the Tyndall data published by Media Matters for America.
The measurement was of time devoted to stories about the Sanders campaign specifically, so coverage of his performance in a debate is not included. So by that measure, Sanders has probably gotten more center-stage exposure on the broadcast networks late-night talk shows than on their evening newscasts. He has appeared on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel Live.
Sanders campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said that the corporately owned media may not like Bernies anti-establishment views but for the sake of American democracy they must allow for a fair debate in this presidential campaign.
http://variety.com/2015/biz/news/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-1201659715/
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)And gives the same answers over and over whether they match the question or not.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Thanks in advance
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)financial statement.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Let's correct the record:
DICKERSON: So let's get started. You will each have one minute for an opening statement to share your thoughts about the attacks in Paris, and lay out your vision for America. First, Senator Sanders.
After some brief remarks on the attacks in Paris, he proceeded to outline his vision for America as Dickerson implied. He was the only person to answer both parts of Dickerson's question.
NOT GOOD ENOUGH BERNIE!!!!1!!!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)candidate.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)explanation before. And yes, I have picked a good candidate, Hillary Clinton.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)You just blew your whole wad!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And not on a sunday show ever either lol
Sorry to destroy your bs talking point
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Anytime he gets a foriegn policy question he dances away...
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)There is no conspiracy. Only excuses and scapegoats. (In my opinion.)
gordyfl
(598 posts)Unlike Hillary, whose answers change from week to week.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Saying the same things for forty years. We are not in the 70's and 80's any more.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Hillary is up to date you may not agree with her but at least she's not stuck and will answer questions unlike Bernie who doesn't give realistic solutions
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)Bernie's 'One Note Samba' gets old
gordyfl
(598 posts)Yes, Hillary's always evolving.
"I'm for it", "I"m against it".
"l"ll answer that when I'm president."
"We"ll talk about it, and make a decision."
"No boots on the ground!!.....We'll just send Special Ops, Trainers, Enablers. Air attacks. We won't be sending thousands the way we did Iraq."
"Wiped my sever? Like with a cloth?"
"Why do I take money from Wall Steet?....911"
Yes Hillary has many different answers.
Bernie is consistent. He's a rock.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Clearly his campaign is starting to get desperate.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)Maybe desperate isn't the right word.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I'm happy that it happened.
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)I am glad you can find happiness in that shame.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Demanding a clear TOS violation be overlooked.
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)Pretty sick. Are you that filled with hate?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Or support of the admins at DU to live up to its TOS Democratic standards....
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)I am sure the admins love it when posters grave dance. I bet board discord is like the most awesome thing to them. How helpful of you!
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)then that is YOUR interpretation isn't it?
Loonix is gone...get over it.
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)I am over Loonix. I really didn't know him.
What I am not over is you grave dancing. Grave dancing is one of the things that makes DU suck.
Boogie On.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)take it up with the admin...
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)I just don't think you should grave dance.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I'm glad that poster is gone. I may just resurrect my bug zapper too to counter the continued whine.
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)Does no one read anymore?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)and good riddance to that poster....he's not dead, he's got plenty of places to sound off, and likely he does just that.
I'm glad he gone, doesn't matter that I don't care for your determination that people are grave dancing, I see it as a celebrating a nasty disruptor's chance to move on out into the big world.
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)Why did you:
a> say I was arguing something different and
b> respond?
Grave dancing makes DU suck. Please refrain from doing so and defending others who do it. Thanks in advance!
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)Bernie or Bust!
Stop playing the victim ok?
http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1106941
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)Loonix was.
People who grave dance suck. Take your own advice and " s)top playing the victim ok?"
Thanks and have a great day.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)they don't get their way suck even worse. Get rid of the insects.
http://betterment.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1106941
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)I am criticizing grave dancing. It makes DU suck. Quit defending the indefensible by changing the subject.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I don't see you complaining about those supporting the clear violation of TOS that have their own graphic....
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)Pretty much in a direct response to the grave dancing--you know the stuff that makes DU suck.
Fortunately, it is a free country and you are free to show your lack-of-compassion and incivility in such a manner if you desire. And you apparently do.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)It was very clear......that poster had a vile history....and as it turned out...was anti-Democratic
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)Wouldn't it be easier just to not keep adding to the things that make DU suck by ceasing the grave dancing?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Particularly after anti-Democratic trolls get served well deserved pizzas!
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)It takes a lot a work to make DU suck. I can imagine you get tired.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)What do you do?
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)You must drink a lot to make up for all the grave dancing you do.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)They made the decision to serve the pizza for the troll doing anti-democratic posting did they not ?
Seems your grievance is with them...
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)I am going to repeat this again. Read it slowly and if you don't understand a word, look it up.
I am not defending the actions of any DUer who was banned by the administrators. I am telling you that grave dancing makes DU suck.
Read that again.
Now again for understanding.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Then these are in support of the Democratic Party and symbolize GOTV
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)And you make DU suck by doing it.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Thanks to an inept DNC that has worked to keep exposure to our candidates to a minimum to try to benefit Hillary.
Trump is resonating with angry voters and the Democrats are nowhere to be seen.
But that's just fine with you because at least it's not helping Bernie right?
No wonder the Democrats have done so well in elections over the past few years!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Lack of substance and drama deserve the most coverage? Deep, very deep.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Trump is newsworthy. That's a fact. He's personally and ethically not worthy of much, but he's a master at making and being news.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)The only reason he's ahead is all the free publicity he's getting from the media. If he weren't getting it and were getting ignored he would be much lower in the polls.
So why does the media want such a clown to be ahead in the polls? Why do they give such a clown so much free air time? Because it's good for ratings. It keeps people watching. They don't want people to think about real issues that Bernie is talking about. You know tha
The things Hillary supporters will say... what a joke.
.
Pharaoh
(8,209 posts)Monty Python | Spot the Looney
treestar
(82,383 posts)The loony is the most newsworthy!
Freaking amazing!
What about Hillary?
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)The fact that Bernie's campaign is not getting news coverage is all Hillary's fault don't ya know. Hillary controls the media, don't let the fact that the big media have smeared Hillary for the last 20 years confuse you. It's all a sinister plot.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)What a relief!
Phlem
(6,323 posts)sure that what I was thinking chief.
The Hillary bunch just keeps getting more pathetic with every passing day.
The dishonest intellect is quite becoming of you.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Is this all that is left to the Sanders campaign? Perhaps he should spend some of all that capital I hear has raised and buy some time.....
pangaia
(24,324 posts)He is an asshole.
Why should assholes be in the 'news?'
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
---for the oligarchy.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)What a ridiculous thought.
.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)The news is making his campaign.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Why would that be?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)You believe the media is doing the right thing in giving his racist agenda lots and lots of free publicity. That is nauseating coming from a supposed Democrat.
Every day her supporters become more and more right wing. It's disturbing.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Because they think she has somehow magically already won because the media isn't paying as much attention to Bernie.
I have seen tons of people with Third Way banners popping up lately that think it is safe to come crawling out of the woodwork. Let us see what they say in a couple of weeks after New Hampshire and Iowa. Bernie is going to win the former and the later is going to be a lot closer than people think.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)He's a "reality" show star.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)He knows how to work the media
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)if that is what you believe, then maybe they deserve our votes as well.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)That's not my criteria. The criteria you use for deciding on how to cast your vote is entirely up to you.
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)The Planned Parenthood shooter and the San Bernardino shooters deserved coverage, in the sense they made news, right?
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... some people intentionally misunderstand and overlook the obvious. But what can ya do? It happens so frequently, that it's hardly worth worrying about anymore.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)you can spin this if you want, but the Media plays a large role in promoting or demoting candidates.
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)For example, they adored John McCain in 2000 and Barack Obama in 2008. They've never liked Hillary Clinton-- in fact, I think their bizarre obsession with Hillary Clinton's email had a lot to do with her summer swoon.
However, Donald Trump is the frontrunner for one of the major parties in the United States, and he's been making a lot of news-- most of it bad. I don't really blame them too much in this case.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And it is unprecedented
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)eom
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It certainly is lacking in comparison to BBC World News. The PBS News Hour is likely our most comprehensive news show.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)The point of this campaign is to expose corporate malfeasance.
Can't wait to beat* the war monger and her corporate cronies.
*beat: as in win, not flog, just in case any alert stalkers are worried.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)"The Tonight Show with Jimmy Kimmel" gets 4 million viewers per night.
Donald Trump repeatedly getting coverage on "ABC World News Tonight" is more publicity than Bernie Sanders getting to make one appearance on "The Tonight Show with Jimmy Kimmel."
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Trump has been a billionaire and a friend of the media (based in New York City) since the 80s, getting really popular with the Apprentice show series.
Hillary Clinton was First Lady, Senator of New York (a large state), ran for president in 2008, and was Secretary of State.
Bernie Sanders, a senator from the small state of Vermont, until recently has been a relative nobody, pretty much only known by Vermonters and fans of the Thom Hartmann show.
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)He repeats the same message over and over. He avoids foreign policy or any other topic that is not bashing Wall Street. He hasn't had anything new to say since September. He's boring. He is also thin skinned cheerless.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)That has "evolved" over and over or simply COPIED Bernie's message.
Don't forget her sabre rattling War Hawk stuff!
riversedge
(70,270 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)That's all you've got.
Your desperation is showing.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Like being for regulating the banks properly and breaking up the big banks
Like being for a $15 dollar minimum wage.
Like seeking to remove the cap on social security taxes so that the millionaires pay the same rate as doctors making a hundred thousand a year.
Like free public colleges and universities.
What a crappy retort. Do you wonder why Sanders supporters don't fall over for Hillary. That kind of statement you made is probably exhibit 1.
840high
(17,196 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)His true believers must all have hearing problems.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)DU has devolved immensely if that's what you're using to discredit Bernie. 2 nothings that don't help us at all.
your brilliance is blinding.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)They accuse supporters of being terrible people. They have been doing it for six months. It really is all they seem to have since Bernie is better on every single issue.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)you're on a fucking role.
That has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)No whining involved.
At least he isn't gonna sit down with $30,000+ a plate Banksters and Billionaires in NYC on the 18th.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...considering that the next night is the Democratic debate in NH.
Skittles
(153,174 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)R B Garr
(16,966 posts)It's not even believable. Just scripted theater. His campaign manager sounds phony. Sanders is a U.S. Senator. He has no problem getting on T.V. This is being over done.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)and that's what's getting him the media attention.
Unfortunately, Hillary, Martin, and Bernie get less coverage simply because they always sound like caring, rational human beings.
Where's the entertainment value in that?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)their knowledge of the world from the main stream media.
Most people watch regular commercial TV. They maybe watch one of the three (might it be four by now?) major networks for their news. Such as it is. They watch whatever the current most popular shows are on broadcast TV. I honestly don't know what those shows might be these days.
Worse yet, most people make their decisions about who to vote for based on the ads that are run over and over during the regular campaign: "Do you know that Candidate X tortures small mammals in his spare time? Is this the kind of person we want in (Congress, the Senate, as President)?"
I don't happen to own a TV. I watch a reasonable amount of television via the internet. The very, very best thing is that I am not subject to advertising. Not the political kind, and not the kind that exhorts us to buy buy buy, spend spend spend. I wake up every morning to Amy Goodman. My local community radio station has the BBC on before and after her, and at other times during the day. I also read my local newspaper, so I have a pretty good idea of what's going on in my community. But what I don't get -- and don't miss at all -- are the political ads telling me how truly terrible some candidate is, nor am I exposed to the ads that assure me I'll be sexy and desirable if I use the right toothpaste or drive the right car.
I really wish I could persuade more people to give up conventional TV, be it broadcast, cable, or satellite. When I moved to my current location (Santa Fe, NM) there were several reasons why I didn't get a TV, but it mainly came down to cost. I didn't want to spend the money on a TV set, didn't want to pay the cost of cable or satellite. There was a trivial issue about the location of the connection, which would have required any TV be set directly in front of the only window in the living room, which made no sense to me. I viewed it as an experiment, and at the beginning assumed I'd be getting a TV (cable or satellite) within a year. But then I discovered that what I really wanted to watch I could watch on the internet, and as time went by found I simply didn't miss regular TV at all. At this point, more than seven years into that "experiment" I can't imagine ever having regular TV again. When I'm in a hotel and turn on the TV, I invariably wind up turning it off after no more than 30 minutes because I can't abide the endless commercials. I think regular TV viewers have become immune to them, which is unfortunate. Because you're really not immune, you just think you are. They are still occupying a significant percent of the broadcast time, and you see and hear those ads and they insuate themselves into your brain. Not a good thing at all.
Here's something else connected to not having a TV but having the internet: When some sort of breaking news occurs, I just google the TV stations in that city, and invariably they will have gone to live streaming. I find that the feed from a local TV station is vastly better than what I'd get by turning on my TV (if I had one) and tuning into the network broadcast of the same thing. Quite amazing.
LuvLoogie
(7,020 posts)and calling her names. He needs to be a reflection of the rank and file Revolution.
The media wants a mud fight. I f they want to hear Bernie's answers and positions on anything, all they need to do is get permission from Thom Hartman to run one tape from one show of Breakfast with Bernie. And it doesn't matter which show.
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)or blame Hillary for Bill's infidelity, or resurrect Whitewater. That would get him some coverage. The Iraq vote is old news and the reality is Bernie is perceived as either too dovish or uninterested in the rest of the world.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Haven't we all been made aware of the effects and results of "privilege" during this election season?
Now, as a white male myself, I can get kind of offended too, when people accuse me of privilege and I haven't actually been demonstrating it or the results of it, just the color of my skin and my gender.
But when certain people deride others for making a stink out of things that truly do stink, like the preposterous and rigged scheduling of the debates or the ridiculous inequity of reporting on major candidates, that strikes me as more than disingenuous.
C'mon, get with it. We're in the end on the same side, and candidates should get equal treatment if we are to truly select the "best one", the one that best represents the people.
I know those who support Hillary are all too happy to exult in some of the inequities, but it surely does not help the cause.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)The Fairness Doctrine
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)He already talks about changing the media, something that should have been brought up and handled long ago.
As long as Rightwing radio and TV spews forth 24/7 all over the country, how do we resist the relentless dumbing down that occurs?
When "mainstream" radio and TV does pretty much the same thing, including CNN, NPR, etc., there really is almost nowhere to get non-rightwing media coverage, except maybe the foreign news.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)I get it, when our candidate complains about something it's "whining".
When your candidate complains about something it's undoubtedly "justified".
Less name-calling and more compassion all the way around would be helpful, I would think.
I suppose you think we shouldn't "whine" either about how the DNC has engineered the debates as if they wanted absolutely the least coverage and attendance possible. Clearly, to any unbiased eye, an engineered system that is counter-intuitive, unless you wish to skew the results a certain way.
Please don't call it whining, and we will try to keep the name-calling to a minimum too. Stating the facts, that's another story.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)Vinca
(50,300 posts)will come out for Hillary if she's the nominee. And she will desperately need us. You're doing your candidate harm.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... except for the fact that this website and its individual threads and comments do not have the reach or penetration into the public consciousness that you imagine.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)lol
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... but in the grand scheme of national politics, and the actual influence of the things written here on this website, it matters not a whit. It's a closed ecosystem that's filled with politically inclined individuals who choose to be here, and not representative of the real world.
With regard to the topic, it appears that you have selective vision and likely remember only those things that bother you the most. Bernie is no victim, and his fans are not the angelic choirboys that you seem to view them as.
I suppose it's completely natural for Bernie's fans and his campaign to try and find a scapegoat or to imagine conspiracies as an excuse for the failings of his campaign. No doubt this brings much solace and comfort to a troubled campaign and its enthusiasts.
Instead of searching for a scapegoat, I can only suggest that Bernie's campaign and its followers look inward for the reasons that his poll numbers and endorsements are so dismal. Ask yourselves what other reasons there may be that his appeal seems to be so limited.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)You guys don't hide your fear very well.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... but it seems unlikely that it would take such a long time. It's a peevish criticism of the OP in my opinion, your efforts to characterize the OP as coming from a place of fear defies logic. It is, very plainly, a post that points out the behavior of Bernie's campaign has all the hallmarks of one that knows it's suffering. Strong and robust campaigns don't need to search for scapegoats or make excuses.
The answers you seek will come from within, but first you must be willing to look and not be afraid of what you see.
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)Gothmog
(145,481 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)"Least electable Republican candidate has better chance of winning than least electable Democratic candidate" is something I'm enthused by.
Except possibly for Carson, Trump is the only Republican I'd bet on Clinton to beat, and the only one I'd score Sanders as having a snowball's chance in hell against.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And pushing right wing ideology. We can all see where this is going.
Her supporters are becoming very anti-Democratic.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)You could make a case that expressing support for an opposing candidate likely to lose is machiavellian and small-d anti-democratic (although I wouldn't agree with it), but to suggest that it's large-D anti-Democratic is absurd.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Trump is a gift. He will cause the GOP to implode, or he'll split their vote. Either way, we win (as Democrats and as Americans.) His negative effect on the GOP will likely last for a generation.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Gothmog
(145,481 posts)I keep asking the same question and to date i have not seen an explation as to how Sanders competes n a general election where the Kochs will be sprnding $887 million ans the RNC candisste may spend anothrt billion dollars. Sanders lacks the financial resouces to be viable in a general election contest where the Koshs can spend $300 million on negative ads using the ters "socialist" and "socialism".
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)No longer just the TV age. The old methods are no longer the only options open to us. We can reach the voters without just having to throw a billion dollars at the networks.
Gothmog
(145,481 posts)Sanders is not viable in a general election contest where the Kochs will be spending $887 million and the RNC candidate may spend another billion dollars. Sanders has a 6% chance of being the democratic nominee because most Democrats do not believe he is viable in the general election.
Trump has a 21% chance of being the nominee because the gop base is full of crazy people who believe that Romney and mcCain lost because they were too liberal. A Trump nomination could help the Democratic partywin the Senate and the House back. The RNC will stop Trump or risk losing Congress.
Neither Sanders nor Trump are that likely to be their party's nominee
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)After months of saying they don't need MSM, tool of the Oligarchy, the internets and facebook is gonna elect Bernie!!11!1
What happened???
livetohike
(22,156 posts)establishment do his bidding. He always seems to be complaining with no solutions that are realistic. Maybe that's why his coverage is sparse.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)So when someone gets robbed or beaten and they point that out, what a bunch of whiny babies. Or if you point out income inequality what a bunch of whiny losers right? Or if you point out that people die for lack of health care well maybe they should focus more on making enough money to pay for the right to live rather than whine about it, right?
Sure in the scheme of things not getting coverage in the news is a small thing. But, we are talking about corporate control over nearly every facet of life in the United States and that is not a small thing.
I remember back in the day when progressives were the champions of people who are oppressed.
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aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)Give me a break. At least the Sanders camp provided a quantifiable issue.
treestar
(82,383 posts)But then the M$M always did favor the Rs.
There's no reason for Trump to get more coverage. Maybe he is more extreme to the right than Bernie is to the left and thus his remarks are more outrageous. That's the reason for the Trump coverage, IMO.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Sanders is figuring it out now that he is meandering outside of Vermont. This is nothing new.
If anyone should be complaining it should be O'Malley!
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)anything about O'M. In contrast, BS has been all over radio and on TV (especially MSNBC). A person would either have to be dishonest or inattentive to claim that he hasn't gotten much media coverage, yet Media Matters et al. are still running with this story.
Number23
(24,544 posts)is practically nil. At the first debate, the journalists at the Australian Broadcasting Corporation referred to it as "Hillary Clinton versus a bunch of nobodies" (which was actually a slam on Sanders, O'Malley and Chafee at the time) and he is really a non-entity in the international press.
Having said that, the unrelenting attacks on the OP for daring to post this piece are absolutely unhinged. NOBODY who is the tiniest bit secure in their choice for candidate feels the need to launch these stupid, UNENDING and pointless personal attacks. The hatefulness reveals far more truth than all of the "rah, rah!!1" ever could.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Can't get much more regressive than that.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Until then it's just more whining.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Thanks in advance.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Are you also against net neutrality? Very progressive views wouldn't you say?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Why would you assume a position on net neutrality based upon the fact I stated where failing campaigns ALWAYS blame the media?
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Maybe Sanders should say that he did it first!
merrily
(45,251 posts)It hurts their own candidate as well but they don't give a shit about that as long it hurts Bernie.
merrily
(45,251 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Who gives a shit about the consequences right?
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Disgusting that some here have no problem with that.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)The Networks following "interesting" candidates who produce new stories every day. Bernie has been saying the same things for 40 years.
It would also help if he was the least bit competitive. Trump leads the Republican field in every state, Bernie trails badly in almost every state. However, several of the other Republican candidates - Cruz, Rubio, and Carson - are much more competitive with Trump than Bernie is with Hillary. Since Trump is such a decisive figure, even within the GOP, his closest competitors are going to get decent coverage.
It's not about "corporate network" deliberately shunning Bernie. News networks are about one thing, ratings. If Bernie gave them the best ratings, they would follow him around with a hundred cameras everywhere he goes.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)make these huge changes.
He has spent his whole career tickled being the Socialist, and now he wants special treatment.
New Hampshire was another. And unions who back Clinton.
We hear this a lot from Sanders.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)This is written by Ted Johnson who is Senior Editor at Variety. Johnson is in agreement with Sanders' statements and while the OP might not understand this, Johnson's point about Sanders being on late night entertainment programming more than on the news programming is a criticism of the news programming, not an argument that Sanders is getting plenty of air time. In the industry, the idea that a major candidate is seen more on talk shows than on news shows speaks poorly for the news shows. This is not how it is supposed to be. This is understood by the readership of Variety.
In terms of the OP's choice of verbiage, I don't care for that sort of thing. It is particularly odious when used to exploit the words of another writer and twist them to serve a personal narrative.
So not very insightful, lacking in ethics and wallowing in insulting verbiage. My criticism of the OP is very similar to Johnson's criticism of the news media. It's more about entertainment than honesty.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)Disgusting. Childish. Obnoxious.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)constantly smeared President Reagan in the 80's, how they fawned over the Clinton's in the 90's and kept secret from American people countless tawdry scandals, how in 2002-2003 the mainstream media fought viciously to undermine President Bush's and Vice President's Cheney's war policy even denying that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction even as our troops where marching into battle.
Yet, Bernie has the unmitigated nerve and temerity to suggest that the media is biased. PREPOSTEROUS!! I TELL YOU!! PREPOSTEROUS!!! Next thing you know, he'll be suggesting that there is a vast right-wing conspiracy.
question everything
(47,518 posts)where the showed all the 2015 cover pages. So here was Trump, and Carson, and Bernie but no.... Hillary.
So Bernie, like Trump and Carson, should stop whining.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)They did well by her in 2014
And made reminded us of her again in 2015. Not the most flattering picture, but there she is.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)not responded to anyone. A drive by smearing of a Democratic candidate. Pure class.
jfern
(5,204 posts)The media is not on any liberal's side, so if they're on your side, your are a political enemy of liberals.
senz
(11,945 posts)when the "little people" talk about fairness?
What is it about fairness that makes righties get so smug and sarcastic?