41% v. 27% find Sanders honest/trustworthy (+13%); 31% v. 53% find Clinton honest/trustworthy (-24%)

[Attorney in Texas]

That's among all voters in today's YouGov/Economist internet poll.

Among Independents, Sander has an even higher +15% net honest/trustworthy rating, and Clinton has a much lower -32%.

Even among Democrats, Sanders has a higher net +56% (i.e., 68% find Sanders honest/trustworthy and 12% disagree) compared to Clinton's net +25 trustworthiness rating among Democrats (54% find Clinton honest/trustworthy and 29% disagree).

CLINTON FANS - THIS IS NOT GOOD IF YOU WANT HER AS OUR PARTY'S STANDARD BEARER.

[Armstead]

1. Who cares? She's "electable" right?

[Prixen]

25. The thread is not about Clinton vs. Trump match-ups

Is it?

[firebrand80]

2. Then why is Hillary still ahead in the primary?

[Armstead]

10. Path of least resistance of the "safe" choice, probably

[Betty Karlson]

33. DWS and the coronation committee have taken care of that. eom

[Hepburn]

38. Maybe she really, really isn't.

[artislife]

39. We haven't started any primaries.

You think polls are election votes?

Silly

You think polls are true?

Sillier, still.

[brooklynite]

3. So the Sanders folks trust polls now?

And FWIW, who did YouGov say those same voters were going to vote for?

[The Dark Magician]

7. I trust Bernie not to screw me

Cant say the same for HRC

[JaneyVee]

8. I trust Hillary to raise middle class wages, not middle class taxes.

[HerbChestnut]

9. Nice talking point

You sound like a politician

[Armstead]

11. A conservative politician

[JaneyVee]

14. Since when is it conservative to raise middle class wages?

Since when is it conservative to not want middle class taxes raised?

[Armstead]

16. Harping on that has been a conservative ploy for a long time

Especially since Reagan amped it up.

No politician wants to be associated with raising taxes, just as nobody really like paying them.

But it's the Republican conservatives who harp on that, and pounce on their opponents as "tax and spend" liberals.

[JaneyVee]

20. "Tax and spend liberals" isn't as bad as...

"Borrow and waste conservatives".

There is nothing liberal about raising middle class taxes.

[Armstead]

21. Its a matter of messaging and emphasis

There are times when taxes have to be raised to support necessary services. That's sucks, but it's reality to support government programs -- and also to avoid falling into the "borrow and waste" category.

Liberals don't trumpet that, but they also don't deny it, and certainly don't use it as a political weapon against opponents.

[JaneyVee]

13. I'm planning on it once I retire.

[ibegurpard]

15. God help us all

[JaneyVee]

17. You afraid of higher wages and lower middle class taxes?

[artislife]

40. More like a pr person.

I watched The Good Wife.

[CoffeeCat]

26. I don't trust her to "raise" wages. She's only suggested a $12 minimum wage...

That's not exactly fighting for the middle class.

Bernie and O'Malley have both said they would raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour.

What specifically would Hillary do to raise middle-class wages? I haven't heard one good idea. Sounds like one of those amorphous promises that means nothing.

[JaneyVee]

28. She's voted to raise wages every single time.

She has always been an advocate of higher wages. And her position is $12/hr - $15/hr for cities and other high cost of living areas.

[VanillaRhapsody]

18. Then you haven't been paying attention

Http://ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm

[The Dark Magician]

27. Your candidate

Not mine and many of my friends feel the same.

[VanillaRhapsody]

30. Matters none...

[cosmicone]

23. They trust polls that are favorable to Sanders doh! n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

4. That poll shows Hillary leading Bernie by 21 points

You mean Bernie is such a crappy candidate that he's getting killed by someone who isn't considered honest and trustworthy?

Doesn't that mean Bernie must be a poor candidate?

[madokie]

29. No

It means there's a lot of bullshit being stirred up around here, Actually

[SidDithers]

5. ...

Keep trying, Texas Lawyer.

Sid

[MeNMyVolt]

6. You've chucked your credibilty on this board...

.. with the Sanders NH poll vs. Clinton GE post. Once chucked, it's seldom retrievable.

[artislife]

41. Not here a month and already knowing

how the posters all feel.

That is scary intuitive.




ha!

[JaneyVee]

12. We'll all be Clinton fans soon.

[upaloopa]

19. What is not good is that Bernie has nothing

but talking points and no plans for how to make everything free.

People on the right don't like Hillary and that is a given. They hate the name Clinton as do some here.

They won't vote for her no matter what.

[MeNMyVolt]

22. Might be time to move on...find greener pastures, eh AIT?

[cosmicone]

24. Parsing polls is a coping strategy .. bravo!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251887402

[Attorney in Texas]

31. I this the coping strategy the Clinton campaign has adopted in New Hampshire?

Aren't you LOVING this trend-line?

[cosmicone]

34. Clinton campaign need neither Iowa nor NH

It can be victorious thereafter starting in SC.

Your candidate on the other hand .....

[Attorney in Texas]

35. How did that strategy play out for Giuliani?

[cosmicone]

36. Different party, different dynamics n/t

[Attorney in Texas]

37. Please relay your "we don't need Iowa or New Hampshire" strategy to the Clinton campaign

[Betty Karlson]

32. By the power of Debbie, the coronation committee commands you:

to ignore this relevant information. 9/11, a gender, and socialist socialist socialist. Also racist* and sexist supporters.

* Not the ones Clinton had in 2008, obviously. Just the ones who refuse to cast a primary vote for the candidate sponsored by the prison industry, which negatively and disproportionately impacts communities of colour. If you refuse to cast a vote for the candidate who is fine with her prison industry buddies' deep pockets, you are racist. Furthermore, if you focus on poverty rather than terror (tm) and thereby address the issue most pertinent to America's poorest neighbourhoods, you are racist. And sexist.