There is a current post about Bernie refusing to talk to the press in Baltimore

[Omaha Steve]

Some voters have short memories!


Video at link


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/05/clinton-rope-journalists-corralled_n_7730242.html

Clinton Campaign Frustrates Journalists Yet Again By Roping Off Media At Parade

NEW YORK -- As America celebrated its independence Saturday, journalists covering presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton found theirs restricted by rope-clutching campaign aides.

The Clinton campaign corralled journalists at the Fourth of July parade in Gorham, New Hampshire, keeping the Fourth Estate away from the candidate and mostly out of earshot from exchanges with voters. Photos of cordoned-off journalists quickly went viral.



The heavy-handed treatment of journalists Saturday is likely to only exacerbate the Clinton campaign's long-running tensions with the press.

Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner, avoided interviews during her first two months as a candidate. Campaign events are carefully stage managed, with reporters getting few opportunities to question the candidate. And she has yet to do a lengthy national media interview.

FULL story at link.

[NCTraveler]

1. And look at how much press it got.

Ends up the manner in which she has dealt with the media is working. She knows they are going to attack her regardless. It was discussed non-stop here. Seems some don't think it is fair game the other way around. You are bringing nothing to the show that hasn't already had a hundred ops made.

[Scootaloo]

2. Plus, said post is just factually wrong.

[cosmicone]

3. oooooh a copycat thread .. yummy! n/t

[R B Garr]

4. Oh, please. Sander's campaign screw-up is on them.

It had nothing to do with Hillary. Good Lord. He's a grown man. His campaign made a mistake. Clinton has been in the media spotlight for years. Bernie has only been since May. There is no legitimate comparison.

[Omaha Steve]

5. BLM is a screw up?

From my earlier OP.

Symone Sanders is from Omaha. She and I have talked shop a few times.

OS



http://www.blackenterprise.com/news/exclusive-symone-sanders-bernie-sanders-response-cnn-issis-comment-backlash/

Posted: December 9, 2015

By Hailey Wallace, Politics

On Tuesday, presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders took a walking tour through Baltimore, meeting with the city’s civic and religious leaders to discuss the issues affecting the African-American community. Sanders ended his time in Freddie Gray’s neighborhood with a news conference to discuss what he had seen that day.

[Related: The GOP Has a Problem With … Empty Podiums]

The Sanders campaign had scheduled a press conference to share the events of the day with the media. Symone Sanders, national press secretary for the Sanders campaign, arrived and provided a quick summary of topics to be covered. She then asked reporters not to “ask about ISIS today,” because “it was not on topic.” The topic was, again, the issues affecting the African-American community.

Dan Merica tweeted the following:

Sanders Press Secretary Symone Sanders tells reporters before his press conference: “Don’t ask about ISIS today.” Yeah, ok.

— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) December 8, 2015


FULL story at link.

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It led to this.

[R B Garr]

8. Are you confused that his campaign told the press

not to ask questions about ISIS.

Although it's good to see that Bernie fans are no longer angry at BLM for interrupting him.

[Omaha Steve]

14. OOPS here is the info at Black Enterprise

I'm sure you saw the widely posted in GD-P video on this. Denial maybe?

http://www.blackenterprise.com/news/exclusive-symone-sanders-bernie-sanders-response-cnn-issis-comment-backlash/

Of course he dozen’t have a problem talking about ISIS or any of the pressing issues affecting the American people. He spoke about ISIS today, the day before today, and will speak about it tomorrow. Again, he is more than happy to discuss pressing issues affecting Americans, but today was about Baltimore.”

[R B Garr]

18. So now you're back to Bernie's campaign screwup about

warning the press not to ask about ISIS...?

If it's about a thread here...petty and not interested. I see the link posted and it looked like an accurate description based on that link. Bernie looked flustered.

[Omaha Steve]

20. WTF?

Here is the inspiration of this OP.

[R B Garr]

23. WTF yourself. That's the clarification I was

looking for. Silly me, I didn't realize this was another petty vendetta thread over another DU poster.

[Omaha Steve]

25. This OP is about Hillaries screw up

Bernie talks tot he press. I'm sure you saw this. Baltimore. Tune in at 11:30. Or is this SFX?

[jeff47]

7. Was "Her speech will be her interview" a screw up?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/06/hillarys-speech-will-be-her-interview-208190

'Cause a lot of people insisted taking zero questions showed leadership and control of the press.

Oddly, those same people are now saying answering questions about ISIS at a different time was a massive screw-up.

[R B Garr]

9. Bernie's campaign screw ups are his doing.

It has nothing to do with Hillary.

[jeff47]

10. Lovely strawman you're trying to build there.

You are claiming not answering questions is a screw up. Is that true for Clinton too, or only Sanders?

[R B Garr]

11. This thread is the straw man.

His screw up had.nothing to do with Hillary. Google the screw up for more info.

[R B Garr]

12. OMG, this is about a thread here...???

LMAO. I should have known. Petty.

[jeff47]

16. No.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/06/hillarys-speech-will-be-her-interview-208190

Clinton refused to take questions, and lots of Clinton supporters came out to say how "masterful" it was, how it showed leadership and control of the press.

Many of those same people are now claiming Sanders screwed up, because you have to answer press questions at any time, and on any subject they want.

Since you are claiming Sanders screwed up, I'd like to find out if you think Clinton screwed up too. Though the large amount of deflection and strawmen provides the answer.

[R B Garr]

19. Clinton had nothing to with Sanders screwup or

a thread here about him not answering questions.

[Armstead]

24. Why not answer his simnple question?

Do you think Clinton's refusing to answer questions, or instructions to the press and things like forcing reporters into rope lined pens was skillful and good thing. Was it more justified than Sanders's campaign request and Sanders response?

It's not a hard question to answer.

[R B Garr]

26. Sanders is a grown man. Hillary is not responsible

for his screwups. I have to laugh that some here were begging for a Benghazi hearing for Sanders because she did so well.

[Ed Suspicious]

34. I just don't see this in any way as a screw up.

[jeff47]

27. And so you return to your strawman. How unexpected!

You are claiming not answering press questions is a screw up. Is that true when Clinton does not answer press questions?

Or do you want to keep lying about my posts? Keep in mind they're still there, so everyone can see there is no claim of causality.

[R B Garr]

29. No, this thread is about another DUer

I thought it was about the Sander's campaign screwing up telling the press not to ask about ISIS.

[jeff47]

31. And your claim of a screw up is why I'm asking this very simple question.

Is not answering press questions a screw up when Clinton does it?

Very simple question. Yet you keep desperately trying to not answer it. First by lying about my posts, and now by trying to change the subject back to the OP, after you changed the subject to the claim of a "screw up".

[R B Garr]

36. I have to laugh that some people here wanted

an 11-hour Benghazi hearing for Bernie since Hillary did so well.

This thread is a petty call out of another Duer. It'still not about Clinton, although you desperately want it to be.

Now you are calling me a liar for the mistake of taking this thread in good faith that it was about the Bernie campaign screwup of telling the press not to ask about ISIS because he has no foreign policy experience. I didn't realize it was a petty call out thread. But it's still not about Clinton.

Ciao.

[Cha]

58. No one is "lying" .. it's just you accusing someone of lying. Please try to deal in the reality of

the situation.

[merrily]

54. +1

[NorthCarolina]

6. To be fair, Hillary had a ROPE line.

Bernie didn't.

[sufrommich]

13. I haven't seen anyone claim that he refused to talk to the press.

Are you talking about his media person telling the press what they could ask? Because that's not the same thing as not taking any questions from the media.

[Omaha Steve]

15. Here it is

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251890048

[sufrommich]

17. OK thanks.I didn't see that one.

Yes,Bernie did answer other questions.

[Omaha Steve]

22. There are so many posts it happens

Even to me. I just posted one I missed in another OP. This is my first real time in GD-P in ages.

OS

[artislife]

28. I love screen shots. nt

[Omaha Steve]

57. Best $10 I ever spent

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. Heh...

hy·poc·ri·sy

\hi-ˈpä-krə-sē also hī-\
noun

: the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do : behavior that does not agree with what someone claims to believe or feel

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[George II]

30. It wasn't a press conference, it was a public appearance, it was a dictate of the Secret Service...

....and it never happened again.

Plus it was five months ago.

[jeff47]

32. How 'bout this one?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/06/hillarys-speech-will-be-her-interview-208190

Is that a screw up?

Also, the rope thing was "it happening again", since it happened after "Her speech will be her interview".

Remember when refusing to answer press questions was "masterful", and showed leadership?

[George II]

35. Didn't you read THIS in YOUR article?

"...that guidance did not come from the Clinton campaign — spokesman Nick Merrill told Bloomberg the language was not approved by the campaign"

Are you forgetting that Hillary Clinton is a former First Lady under 24-hour Secret Service protection? They dictate a lot of how her appearances are conducted.

You're blaming her for things that are totally out of her control.

[jeff47]

37. If it was out of her control, how come she didn't answer questions?

She was there, and the press was there. Reeeeeeeeealy simple to take and answer their questions. Yet she didn't.

Almost like she actually didn't want to answer any questions.

But hey, the campaign "did not approve the language", which totally means she wanted the opposite, right? It can't possibly mean the campaign would have phrased the same thing another way.

[George II]

39. Take it up with the Secret Service.

A few years I went to a campaign rally for our Governor where Clinton gave a speech. We had to be inside the auditorium 2 hours ahead of time and couldn't leave our seats until after he'd left and was in his car headed for the airport.

[jeff47]

40. Wrong event, George. The Secret Service was the "ropeline" event.

The press were already in this event, in their designated spot. Clinton could have very easily taken questions from them. She took zero questions.

[George II]

42. But again, it wasn't a press conference, it was a Fourth of July parade.

Parade participants don't get questioned by the press while they're in a parade.

Now, why not try to find an incident in which Hillary Clinton told the press what types of questions they could ask.

[jeff47]

45. Still the wrong event, George. You're talking about the "ropeline" event.

I'm talking about a speech on voting rights. No parade.

You know, the event you were reading about when you thought you found a "gotcha" with "not approved language"?

Now, why not try to find an incident in which Hillary Clinton told the press what types of questions they could ask.

You mean like the one I'm already talking about, and you keep desperately trying to conflate with the "ropeline" event? See, she told the press what types of questions they could ask. None.

[George II]

46. You obviously didn't re-read the article about the speech and my excerpt....

....I'm not trying to "conflate". In fact this entire discussion started in the OP with the "ropeline" event. YOU are the one who brought up the speech and posted an article about it. So, who is "conflating"?

This (your) article said:

"...that guidance did not come from the Clinton campaign — spokesman Nick Merrill told Bloomberg the language was not approved by the campaign"

Again, when did the Clinton Campaign or Clinton herself tell the press which types of questions they could ask or on which subjects?

[jeff47]

48. You excused the ropeline as a Secret Service requirement. So I brought up a far more relevant

example, which you kept insisting was the ropeline.

Again, when did the Clinton Campaign or Clinton herself tell the press which types of questions they could ask or on which subjects?

What makes you think "we'd say it a different way" means it wasn't the campaign?

And if Clinton wanted to take questions, and taking questions was so important, why didn't she?

[George II]

53. It's clearly evident in the article that you presented that it wasn't the campaign, the article says

who it was.

I don't know what the campaign meant by "we'd say it a different way".

But at least you came out and said that it was you who changed the subject, thanks. And yet, with all this, you still have been unable to say when Clinton or her campaign decided which questions could asked at press conferences.

[Omaha Steve]

33. After being a First Lady, Senator, and SoS she still screwed up 5 months ago

What interview did Hillary do in the first two months when she started? Was she afraid somebody might ask her what newspapers she reads? Please use links.

Bernie still has no Secret Service to bother him. People meet him on coach flights and they love him.

Think about this. IF it never happened again it wasn't a dictate from the SS. Spin is a better word here.

OS

[George II]

41. With all the uproar about that they handled similar events differently after that one.

And if Sanders makes a credible showing in early primaries he'll get Secret Service protection too, and the coach flights will end.

[Omaha Steve]

44. Bernie is eligible for the Secret Service already

On the flights ending, probably.




http://www.secretservice.gov/about/faqs/

The Secret Service DOES NOT determine who qualifies for protection, nor is the Secret Service empowered to independently initiate candidate protection.

Under 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7), "[m]ajor Presidential and Vice Presidental candidates," as identified by the Secretary of Homeland Security, are eligible for Secret Service protection.

Title 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7) authorizes the U.S. Secret Service to provide protection for major presidential and vice presidential candidates:

Protection is authorized by the DHS Secretary after consultation with the Congressional Advisory Committee
The Congressional Advisory Committee includes: Speaker of the House, House Minority Leader, Senate Majority Leader, Senate Minority Leader, and one additional member selected by the others
Criteria have been established to assist the DHS Secretary and the advisory committee in their decision making (as of 2008). Candidates must:

Be publically announced
Have some degree of prominence as shown by opinion polls
Be actively campaigning and entered in at least 10 state primaries
Be seeking the nomination of a qualified party
Have qualified for matching funds in the amount of at least $100,000
Have received contributions totaling $10 million
Title 18 U.S.C.' 3056(a)(7) states that the U.S. Secret Service is also authorized to protect spouses of major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, as identified by the DHS Secretary, within 120 days of the general Presidential election. Some candidates have received protection earlier in the campaign pursuant to Presidential memoranda.

[George II]

47. Yes, he's eligible, in fact he was eligible months ago. But next year....

....if there is a possibility that he might win the nomination the choice will be out of his hands. He will be required to accept protection.

[99th_Monkey]

43. I had to post those pics too, to remind Clintonistas of Hillary's 'rope line'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=886167

As I recall, Hillary was NOT wanting to be asked about her "damned emails", so
roped the press off to protect her.

Ironic how it was Bernie who defused the email issue for her at the first debate.

[MADem]

49. Because PARADE and PRESS CONFERENCE are the SAME!!!

Nothing wrong with saying "No questions" either!!!

What's a problem is when you allow questions, but ahead of time, you try to tell the press what they CAN'T ask about!

Rookie mistake by a greenhorn press secretary. That's why it's causing a stink!

Enjoy!

[99th_Monkey]

50. I think we've already had this conversation. Nothing has changed. yawn. n/t

[MADem]

51. Yes, and parade and press conference are similies! "Yawn!" nt

[upaloopa]

52. That isn't even an honest comparison

It was said Bernie did not want to talk about ISIS not that he wouldn't talk to the press.

[WillyT]

55. LOL !!! - Most Excellent Post, OS !!!

[nc4bo]

56. Just precious.

Nothing stays forgotten or hidden for long.