2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHearst lied to DWS; don't let her pass that lie on to you!
I mean, who ya gonna believe? The Hearst Corporation & Debbie Wasserman Schultz (who willingly swallowed its lie) or IBEW Local 1228? I'll take IBEW Local 1228 for a gazillion, Alex!
http://nhlabornews.com/2015/12/wmur-and-hearst-say-they-will-not-negotiate-with-union-prior-to-debates-as-previous-promised/
Station went back on their word about negotiating before debate
Manchester, NH IBEW Local 1228 is calling on Presidential candidates Hillary Clinton, Martin OMalley and Bernie Sanders to tell Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz to terminate WMURs sponsorship and any participation by the station in the Saturday, December 19 Democratic Presidential debate if a contract for the Production Department isnt reached by Monday, December 14.
WMUR is owned by the Hearst Corporation. WMUR/Hearst is refusing to allow Production Department employees to continue contributing to their Hearst Union Pension Plan just because they formed a union.
On Friday, December 4, Local 1228 held an informational picket line at WMUR. Bernie Sanders spoke with the workers, and it was agreed that he should cross the line so he could deliver a message of support to WMUR Station Manager Jeff Bartlett for the bargaining unit workers. Up until then, WMUR/Hearst had refused to negotiate until after the debate, but Sanders got Bartlett to agree to bargain before December 19. Sanders came back to the picket line to deliver Bartletts message agreeing to negotiate.
Local 1228 Business Manager Fletcher Fischer called Bartlett immediately and offered to negotiate any day or time of WMUR/Hearsts choosing. WMUR/Hearsts attorney subsequently notified Fischer that there would be no negotiations until after the debate.
Also on Friday, DNC Chair Wasserman Schultz spoke to WMUR. She was told that the union, not WMUR/Hearst was refusing to negotiate before the debate.
I find it unbelievable that WMUR/Hearst lied to Debbie Wasserman Schultz about our willingness to settle this contract since they have little or no regard for workers who just want to keep the pension they already have, Fischer said. WMUR/Hearst has negotiated similar deals around workers pensions with Local 1228 at other stations, and we expect them to take care of loyal employees.
(emphasis added)
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Everything she says, IMO, is in service to getting Hillary elected, and we all know it is deemed okay to lie during campaigns.
Looks to me like DWS just wanted to undermine Bernie's effort. IMO and all that.
Note - I live in Florida, and would never believe anything DWS says, ever. She supports her GOP buddies down here.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)WTF else was she thinking of to schedule a debate the Saturday night before Christmas?
The next best thing to that timing? Why, let's cancel it altogether. Hillary can even claim she's doing it to demonstrate her union support. It's a win-win for Debbie!
Divernan
(15,480 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Bernie was promised by Hearst that Hearst would negotiate by Dec. 19th - still in the future. Hearst told DWS a bald-faced lie, i.e., that the union refused to negotiate, which she swallowed whole cloth, and has not refuted or confronted them on. That's our gal, Debbie! Never fails to screw over traditional Dem. values, like union representation of workers.
SHE picked the station; SHE picked the ridiculous date of the Saturday night before Christmas. SHE is the one who has the power to pressure the station to the bargaining table, or at least TRY! But, really! how outrageous! the unionized workers want to continue the pension plans already in place! Who do they think they are!?!?!? Since when do Third Wayers give a flying f*** about the working class?
What do we get from Lil Debbie? The traditional 3rd Way crickets!
On edit: I corrected the deadline date for which Bernie negotiated. It is Dec. 19th. I hit the wrong key and had typed the 14th. IT IS THE NINETEENTH - OVER A WEEK AWAY.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)was going to negotiate the contract. He took the company at their word. Then, they didn't carry through.
They lied to him, too.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Up until then, WMUR/Hearst had refused to negotiate until after the debate, but Sanders got Bartlett to agree to bargain before December 19
Try actually reading EITHER OR BOTH of my original post and the link I provided. I cannot give you a mini-course in contract law or oral contract tradition. In classic and accepted negotiating style, Bernie negotiated for a DEADLINE - otherwise known in legal parlance as a "date certain".
There is over a week to go before Hearst is in violation of their promise to Bernie. OVER A WEEK! It is only AFTER DECEMBER 19th THAT YOU COULD HONESTLY STATE THEY DIDN'T CARRY THROUGH! Sorry to shout, but you are very difficult to get through to.
Why do you insist on making stuff up? Reading is good for you and other living things.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)The bargaining issue?
Regarding the debate date ... TeVo and/or the internet means anyone that wants to can watch at their convenience ... it's not like a sporting event where knowing the final score spoils the event.
How do you know what DWS is, or is not, doing?
Divernan
(15,480 posts)I'm sure Debbie is doing "something", the question is what. In answer to your question, she knows about it now, and has for at least several weeks.
Is she doubling down on having the debate at this station and thus requiring the candidates to cross union picket lines? If she actually believes what Hearst told her - then, as a good and loyal democrat, not to mention head of the DNC, she should be excoriating Hearst publicly for blatantly lying about the union negotiators, AND arranging an alternative venue. She has the control of this event; she has the power - all we're hearing from her is crickets.
She's already helped her friend Hillary enough by scheduling the debate on the Saturday night before Christmas.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)You have no idea what DWS is doing/trying to do.
And TeVo and the Internet still work.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,669 posts)This was written by DUer Matt Murray. I believe the union. K&R!
OS
Divernan
(15,480 posts)I think this report should get maximum exposure, so will leave this active in GD.