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Hillary Clinton honors Angela Merkel being named TIME's Person of the Year (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2015 OP
Nice! Cha Dec 2015 #1
Guess she's glad it wasn't Bernie. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #2
That was my first thought too. n/t Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #6
Doubt she thought of it since Sanders wasn't even a finalist, and for good reason. stevenleser Dec 2015 #13
Absolutely correct. n/t Sheepshank Dec 2015 #41
kick n/t cosmicone Dec 2015 #3
How did she honor Angela Merkel? CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2015 #4
Here is Hillary's comment on Merkel... riversedge Dec 2015 #8
K and R riversedge Dec 2015 #5
Becacuse TIme is owned by whom again? The one that supports Hillary... surprise. Fearless Dec 2015 #7
Your post sounds very bitter. riversedge Dec 2015 #10
I am fine with Merkel ejbr Dec 2015 #11
Ahh..awareness dawns... brooklynite Dec 2015 #12
Um ejbr Dec 2015 #14
"don't understand why they even have a readers poll if it amounts to nothing." sufrommich Dec 2015 #21
Don't get your panties in a bunch ejbr Dec 2015 #29
Because some 13 year old hacker would make Deez Nuts the winner nt firebrand80 Dec 2015 #22
What is the purpose of asking? ejbr Dec 2015 #27
To get people to visit their website n/t tammywammy Dec 2015 #31
Thanks n/t ejbr Dec 2015 #32
You are being very kind calling this comment bitter. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #20
Actually that was TIME'S stated reason for picking her Fearless Dec 2015 #25
No, it was not. Please read more. It will help you. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #28
Actually it was the stated reason for ignoring the public poll. Fearless Dec 2015 #34
The public poll is never the arbiter of the person of the year. tammywammy Dec 2015 #44
Perhaps it is because she has worked with Merkel Skidmore Dec 2015 #16
Truly sexist. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #19
Because that's why they SAID they picked her Fearless Dec 2015 #24
Post the quote and link. You've said this twice now. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #35
And here you go,.. Fearless Dec 2015 #36
OK, thank you for the link and reply. Still don't see that Time chose her as POTY... MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #38
No they chose her because they wanted it to be a woman Fearless Dec 2015 #42
OK. Really can't argue on the Malala thing. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #43
I searched the whole article and couldn't find where it said tammywammy Dec 2015 #33
See above. Fearless Dec 2015 #37
I suggest you reread your link above. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #39
That's not what it says. tammywammy Dec 2015 #45
Hillary's comment in honor of Angela Merkel being named Person of the Year by TIME>> riversedge Dec 2015 #9
The austerity queen, more pain for regular people. JRLeft Dec 2015 #15
Bernie didn't stand a chance. Alfresco Dec 2015 #17
Time Warner is one of Hillary's biggest contributors AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #18
Hillary is a rightwinger like Merkel is. betterdemsonly Dec 2015 #23
WTF? Here--Have a gif ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #26
No where does it say in Time that Merkel was chosen because she was a woman. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2015 #30
The Patriot Act compromises our dignity. Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #40
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. Doubt she thought of it since Sanders wasn't even a finalist, and for good reason.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:10 AM
Dec 2015

Sanders has had zero impact outside the US and minimal impact here.

He's hardly who one would pick as the person having the greatest impact on the world this year for better or worse.

riversedge

(70,253 posts)
8. Here is Hillary's comment on Merkel...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:19 AM
Dec 2015



Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton 4h4 hours ago

Today, Germany’s first woman chancellor, Angela Merkel, was named @TIME's Person of the Year. #TimePOY

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
7. Becacuse TIme is owned by whom again? The one that supports Hillary... surprise.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:07 AM
Dec 2015

And they pick Merkel because she's "a woman" instead of Bernie who won the readers poll... Yet Malala came in second... a woman... who could easily have been chosen.

But no. Gotta go with the political pick. Gotta shore up allies.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
11. I am fine with Merkel
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 07:46 AM
Dec 2015

but don't understand why they even have a readers poll if it amounts to nothing.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
14. Um
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:12 AM
Dec 2015

Don't conflate two different things: a decision by a magazine with an agenda and individuals from different walks of life coming to a consensus.

Nice try.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
21. "don't understand why they even have a readers poll if it amounts to nothing."
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:46 AM
Dec 2015

Because clicks on a web page determines ad revenue. Why do so many people not understand this?

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
29. Don't get your panties in a bunch
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:43 PM
Dec 2015

If everyone knew everything, then the question mark would be obsolete.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
20. You are being very kind calling this comment bitter.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:41 AM
Dec 2015

And they pick Merkel because she's "a woman" - Fearless

It is way beyond bitter.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
25. Actually that was TIME'S stated reason for picking her
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:24 PM
Dec 2015

Because they "hadn't picked a woman in 30 years"... As I stated if they wanted to pick a woman they should have picked Malala... someone who actually is a shining example of courage and a master class on what it means to be a 21st century woman in a repressive environment.

But again, if you insist on calling me a sexist, maybe you should actually do your research first?

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
34. Actually it was the stated reason for ignoring the public poll.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 05:20 PM
Dec 2015

Play partisan politics somewhere else.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
44. The public poll is never the arbiter of the person of the year.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:23 PM
Dec 2015

Here's a DU thread from 2006 with people complaining Time "ignored" the poll: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2983241

Here's a thread from 2013 taking about Miley Cyrus winning the online poll (note she wasn't person of the year either): http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024100983

Here's a journal entry from 2010 when Assange won the online poll (and wasn't person of the year): http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Land%20Shark/181


Time doesn't hide the fact that the online poll is one thing (it's a great way to get people to visit a website) and the editorial board actually chooses the Person of the Year.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
16. Perhaps it is because she has worked with Merkel
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:15 AM
Dec 2015

on the world stage? Hmm? Why should she not congratulate another leader who has had global impact?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. Truly sexist.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:40 AM
Dec 2015

And they pick Merkel because she's "a woman"

That is why you think they picked her? How small and sexist of you. She has huge influence on the world stage yet you think it is about her gender. Beyond shallow.

"And they pick Merkel because she's "a woman" instead of Bernie who won the readers poll" Fearless

This is how accomplished women are viewed by far too many. Beyond sad.

Note to jury, the comment is one hundred percent sexist and can be read in no other way. Hide if you must but we should have every right to call out blatant sexism on a progressive discussion board.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
24. Because that's why they SAID they picked her
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:22 PM
Dec 2015

Because they hadn't picked "a woman in 30 years".

So keep your baseless claims of sexism and personal attacks.

Thanks.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
36. And here you go,..
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 06:14 PM
Dec 2015

"Today, 29 years later, TIME chose Angela Merkel.

Why no individual woman in between?

In 2002 "The Whistleblowers" were the Person of the Year. They were three women, but there's not been an individual woman for nearly three decades.

"Why the long wait?," TIME's Radhika Jones asks, and answers. "As I wrote a few years ago, the label of Person of the Year tends to favor people with institutional power. The choice reflects TIME’s view of who affected the news and our lives, for good or for ill. Since 1986 there’ve been four U.S. Presidents in the mix—three of them two-termers, all of them men. Plus a handful of leaders of the Soviet Union (and Russia), also all men. The Pope keeps being a man. And it’s a lot easier to make news from an address like the White House, the Kremlin or the Vatican.""


http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/for_the_first_time_in_29_years_time_s_person_of_the_year_is_a_woman


 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
38. OK, thank you for the link and reply. Still don't see that Time chose her as POTY...
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 06:19 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:06 PM - Edit history (1)

.."because she's woman".

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
42. No they chose her because they wanted it to be a woman
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:00 PM
Dec 2015

Not besides she is. See my original post. I contended however that is they indeed wanted it to be a woman to make up for years of a lack... It should've been Malala the second place vote getter.

 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
43. OK. Really can't argue on the Malala thing.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:09 PM
Dec 2015

Though I do like Merkel taking a strong stance on immigrants.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
33. I searched the whole article and couldn't find where it said
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:49 PM
Dec 2015

They picked her because she's a woman. Please excerpt the exact part where it says that. Thanks.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
45. That's not what it says.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:27 PM
Dec 2015

She said that Time Person of the Year tends to go to someone with institutional power. They didn't pick Merkel because she's a woman, but because she's a powerful person. Merkel is a powerful person that happens to be a woman.

"Or the Chancellery," Jones continues. "In naming Angela Merkel this year’s Person, we’re not actually breaking with tradition. The chancellor of Germany is the de facto leader of a continent and steward of the world’s fourth biggest economy. Merkel has been in office for a decade, emerging as a principled manager and a resolute diplomat."

But why Merkel?

Largely because of her choice to take in one million refugees.

"At a moment when much of the world is once more engaged in a furious debate about the balance between safety and freedom, the Chancellor is asking a great deal of the German people, and by their example, the rest of us as well," TIME's Nancy Gibbs explains.

riversedge

(70,253 posts)
9. Hillary's comment in honor of Angela Merkel being named Person of the Year by TIME>>
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:21 AM
Dec 2015





Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton 4h4 hours ago

Today, Germany’s first woman chancellor, Angela Merkel, was named @TIME's Person of the Year. #TimePOY

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
23. Hillary is a rightwinger like Merkel is.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:47 PM
Dec 2015

Most of her advisers worked for Cameron in the Uk. That is Thatchers party.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
30. No where does it say in Time that Merkel was chosen because she was a woman.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:43 PM
Dec 2015


Read the story, it covers why she was considered the most influential person in 2015.

Here is Trump's comment:
I told you @TIME Magazine would never pick me as person of the year despite being the big favorite,” he wrote on the social media site to his over 5 million followers. “They picked person who is ruining Germany.”


But Trump is so full of shit that she squeaks going into a turn.

Google "Merkel won person of the year because she was a woman." It doesn't say that.

So lets bury the sexist lie that Merkel won because she was a woman.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
40. The Patriot Act compromises our dignity.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 07:37 PM
Dec 2015

It lets the FBI write its own warrants (National Security Letters), demand records from you, and gag you from talking about it.

Hillary Clinton voted for the Patriot Act.

Bernie Sanders voted against it.

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