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Today's CNN Poll in Iowa - Who's better for the middle class? Sanders 50%; Clinton 43% (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 OP
That poll shows Hillary leading Bernie in Iowa....54% to 36% Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #1
That will change. Kalidurga Dec 2015 #2
Thank you, Cali HerbChestnut Dec 2015 #3
They are not likely caucus participants. Motown_Johnny Dec 2015 #8
Yes, that 54% to 36% *does* represent likely caucus participants thesquanderer Dec 2015 #15
Sadly for Bernie it's not a one issue election MaggieD Dec 2015 #4
Name an issue. angrychair Dec 2015 #5
He's a one issue candidate MaggieD Dec 2015 #6
Name an issue. angrychair Dec 2015 #7
AMBER alerts. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #9
Bernie has a history angrychair Dec 2015 #14
All this suggests is that people believe Hillary is more competent on... JaneyVee Dec 2015 #10
Yea, they believe it. Karma13612 Dec 2015 #16
Glad to see some sanity coming into the Dem primary! Hepburn Dec 2015 #11
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #12
...and in that same poll... Sancho Dec 2015 #13
And Hillary is better on EVERYTHING ELSE...nt SidDithers Dec 2015 #17
 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
3. Thank you, Cali
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:35 PM
Dec 2015

Though I'm sure the poster knew that as does anyone else browsing the GDP page. What they might not have seen was the statistic from that poll stated in the OP.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
8. They are not likely caucus participants.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:45 PM
Dec 2015

Well, the vast majority of them aren't.

Put your faith in these types of polls if you like, but don't be surprised when they turn out to not reflect the views of the people who actually bother to caucus.


thesquanderer

(11,993 posts)
15. Yes, that 54% to 36% *does* represent likely caucus participants
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:55 PM
Dec 2015

"BASED ON INTERVIEWS WITH 442 DEMOCRATIC LIKELY CAUCUS GOERS
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SAMPLING ERROR: +/- 4.5 PERCENTAGE PTS."

But there's also some better news for Sanders supporters in the same poll... of that group, only 38% of those people considered themselves firm ("Definitely decided&quot on their choice.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
4. Sadly for Bernie it's not a one issue election
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:38 PM
Dec 2015

But wow, this is his main (and really only) issue of emphasis and he only beats here by 7%? I wouldn't see that has great news if I were a Bernie supporter, but to each their own.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
5. Name an issue.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:22 PM
Dec 2015

I will happily prove that is not the case...learning only occurs when you do a lot more listening than talking.

For the "no ground game in Iowa":

Bernie Sanders to win Iowa
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8717248

Bernie Sanders can win Iowa
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/261634-sanders-can-win-iowa-and-new-hampshire

Sanders spending surges in Iowa
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/11/22/sanders-spending-surges-iowa/76130676/

Iowa farmer turns field into campaign sign
http://theslot.jezebel.com/iowa-farmer-makes-bernie-sanders-most-authentic-campaig-1744162055


The "no foreign policy" fallacy:

Bernie Sanders’s refreshingly sane foreign policy
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/25/bernie_sanderss_refreshingly_sane_foreign_policy/


Sanders determined to be heard in foreign policy
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-determined-heard-foreign-policy/story?id=35295352

Bernie Sanders immigration plan
http://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanders-spells-out-his-immigration-plan/

On ISIS
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8626570

Bernie Sanders is right about Saudi Arabia and Yemen and ISIS
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-right-saudi-arabia-more-focused-con/

Bernie Sanders on war and peace
https://berniesanders.com/issues/war-and-peace/

Bernie Sanders' foreign policy positions
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-foreign-policy-and-national-security/bernie-sanders-on-foreign-policy/



angrychair

(8,733 posts)
7. Name an issue.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:36 PM
Dec 2015

Any issue...I just gave you 7 links that speak specifically to his foreign policy statements and positions over the last several months from mainstream news media. That alone invalidates your "one issue candidate" statement.
Name an issue, more than willing to compare and contrast the history on any given issue against your candidate.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
14. Bernie has a history
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:44 PM
Dec 2015

As a strong supporter of the Amber Alert system:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2006/09/21/sanders_vote_on_amber_alert_emerges_as_key_campaign_issue/

Did Sanders once vote against an Amber Alert bill? Yes but he was one of very few to stick to his word and refuse to vote for a bill that had a teapublican rider that created a very broad block on judicial sentencing.

From the article:
"Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said Sanders is a strong supporter of the Amber Alert program, and signed onto a 2004 letter to the House leadership requesting full funding for it.
But Sanders voted against the Amber Alert bill because he felt its sentencing provisions were an unconstitutional intrusion by Congress, taking power that should rest with the judiciary.
The late Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist agreed. He wrote a letter to the Congress saying the sentencing provisions would do "serious harm to the basic structure of the sentencing guideline system" used by federal judges "and would seriously impair the ability of courts to impose just and reasonable sentences." (guess what?? It has. Both Sanders and Justice Rehnquist were right, teapublican controlled Congress was wrong)
Lennon said Sanders "wants to have it both ways" on restricting sentences. He noted that Sanders says on his Web site that he supports mandatory minimum sentences for repeat sex offenders.
Sanders' camp said there is no inconsistency. Congress often passes mandatory minimum sentences for various crimes, but Sanders believed the sentencing provisions in the Amber Alert bill restricted sentencing in a much broader way, Weaver said.
Linda Fowler, a Dartmouth College professor of government, said Republicans in Washington are adept at designing legislation with the goal of embarrassing Democrats."

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
13. ...and in that same poll...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:57 PM
Dec 2015

Clinton is the winning candidate 54% to Bernie's 36%

The candidate would be best (regardless of who you are voting for):

The Economy: Clinton 47% Bernie 42%
Health Care: Clinton 63% Bernie 31%
Race Relations: Clinton 52% Bernie 36%
Foreign Policy: Clinton 72% Bernie 21%
ISIS: Clinton 67% Bernie 19%

Hillary is the most qualified candidate. Thanks for the link to the poll.

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