So... Sanders is tone-deaf on race... aaaaaand Clinton puts a picture of Rosa Parks

[sibelian]

in her logo.... and lots of black people on Twitter think it's a crap-fest...

And Bernie supporters think roll their eyes at the useless hypocrisy and therefore are "perpetually outraged about something".

Hmmmmm.

Maaaaaaaybe sign up to Twistter and tell all those black people what Hillary actually meant? I'm sure they'll appreciate it.

[Renew Deal]

1. A lot of the reaction is predictable race baiting.

[sibelian]

6. I don't always agree with you, but I think you're right on that.

I think everybody all round ought to be able to talk about rather more serious racial issues.

[RobertEarl]

13. Not a big deal

But putting Rosa in the back of the bus was pretty damn stupid. It's almost as if someone down at Hill central is trying to piss people off.

Not presidential at all.

[NCTraveler]

2. I don't think it is a big deal. I can see why it might bother some.

Yet I don't feel the need to go tell POC anything about their reactions on twitter. Why do you think I would?

[Blue_Adept]

3. Tempest in a teacup all around

None of this will be remembered outside of some keyboard warriors for the next few years wanting to bring it up for various reasons.

Particularly since even if it does get up to your local news broadcast level, most folks will look at it and just wonder, once again, wtf is wrong with social media that they're always so outraged about something.

A couple of days of comedy on both sides is all this amounts to. Especially if you're watching from the sidelines and seeing how absolutely intense and frothing some are getting about it like it's the Worst Thing Ever.

[sibelian]

4. Yeah, I think you're right.

I didn't follow the MLK.Bernie thing because I think it's stupid even as someone who's a big fan of his, I'm like WHUH? Um, yeah, good an all, not the point, I'd want Sanders to be considered, not his imaginary relation to MLK. I don't particularly think it's "sick". I don't particulalry think it's relevant, either. I'm scratching my head over here in Scotland.

I'm not particularly bothered by the Rosa Parks thing, I think both the Parks and MLK "ner ner ner look at YOU" games are just silly.

A bad month for GD as a whole ( isn't it interesting that that acronym generates THAT smiley? ).

[Blue_Adept]

11. It's all just gutter sniping

Which is why I get amused by the regular posts of "talk policy!!!" because nobody's doing it.

it's all about the numbers game, ground game, optics and perception. Small things like this may set the internet on fire within certain quarters, but if it steps outside of it, it'll get crushed under "real" news like shootings and the like.

The perceptions people take away won't be a Rosa Parks logo used for a day. It'll be the responses to shootings and other events.

[leftofcool]

5. Unlike some people on the internet

I am not in a position to tell PoC what to think. I think I will leave that to the Face Book Warriors who like to tell people like John Lewis what to think and feel.

[sibelian]

9. I don't buy that.

I don't see any fundamental difference between me making an ethical judgement on a racial issue and a black person making a judgement on a racial issue. It's the content of the issue that's under discussion as far as I'm concerned, not the colour of the person making the judgement. Black people think wrong things just like white people think wrong things because, guess what, black people and white people REALLY ARE the same underneath and Human Brains Produce Junk. The only way you can reach a realistic understanding of anything is to try and make sense of what actually happens not slap categories on what people are saying because of their skin colour.

"You're not allowed to say that" because of skin colour is just a fucking useless mess. Either they're WRONG or not, for the reasoning given. Leading black people down a path of infinite labelling makes it impossible for them to get out of the trap.

Black people need better housing, better jobs, better community support, ways to get out of the prison industrial complex, not stories about how people perecive them. Nobody can really control human perception, that's not how it works.

I'm not interested in playing the "I've got more cool points cos I'm oppressed" game. I've been gay all my life and I can see for myself it's a crock of shit. All that happens is that the cool points become a special kind of gay cool points and you're right back in the cage. What gets DONE? That's what matters.

Seeing that we're talking about this, do you know what bugs the crap out of me? Youtube has MASSES of videos of black people being abused by the police and the racism is totally fucking OBVIOUS and somehow it's only the ones that seem to have some nebulous doubt over whether or not the racist cop was justified that ever get into the public eye.

It's only the messy stories that anyone's interested in.

I feel realy sorry for black people in America. There's real stuff needed done for them and all they ever seem to get is wacky keyboard warriors and reflexive gibberish about white people from all sides.

[AgingAmerican]

10. Skin color based censorship is crap

[pa28]

7. Yes, they have made a slight mistake.

We're not "perpetually outraged", we're laughing our asses off over the hypocrisy. I can only imagine the towering indignity if Bernie Sanders had decided to "honor" Rosa Parks by slapping a cartoonish image of her directly on his campaign logo.

[progree]

8. ^^^^^K&R

[div class="excerpt" style="background-color:#CEF6FE;"] I can only imagine the towering outrage if Bernie Sanders had decided to "honor" Rosa Parks by slapping a cartoonish image of her directly on his campaign logo.

[Juicy_Bellows]

14. BINGO. nt.

[MisterP]

12. the faction of redliners and Rahms always pretended its opponents are all racists

pretty damn rich if you ask me

[sibelian]

15. Nasty crowd.

They don't get my vote.